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5th Jun 2012, 03:51
Information from casa says the FOI officer reports to the head of legal services.
How can this be a transparent process???
Well Mr. casa????
5th Jun 2012, 03:59
The "Freedom of Information Act" is really a misnomer. What CASA will use it for is to protect some and persecute others.
Freedom FROM Information is a more appropriate description. :ugh:
5th Jun 2012, 04:40
Hardly free either, $3600 to get some documents relating to breaches of regs they won't enforce.
FOI stands for Fending Off Individuals in the LSD (erk!) at the sewerage farm/fort fumble /whatever. eg CYA Inc. :mad:
Heres a couple of samples of bureaucrap speak for stuff they dont want you to see its " an internal working document"....
or "legal professional privelege".
Do your own homework and read up on that...and you can clearly see CASA is pissing in its own pocket in self protection mode. :mad::mad:
There aint no legal "professional"privelege when one (miss-) "manager" in Compliance section of the LSD asks another a person in the LSD for an opinion about some reg issue. And they're so fcuked up about the regs they cant even get that straight! Or abide by their own freaking manual while they're at it. What a sh*t show !!
Bit of a conflict of interest for the FOI person NOT to be independent of all the other ar$e coverers, dont you think ?? :mad:
But thats the self servants for you. Oztrailya..land of failed bureaucracies, wih CASA leading from the front for once. :mad::mad::mad:
Good 20c I thought.:eek:
From personal experience, you can count the ATSB in with the FOI tactic of f....ing over the applicant.
Not to mention the tactic of deferring to the TSI Act!:ugh: Funny how 2 of 3 government agencies with the word 'safety' in their name have the dodgiest FOI departments...the catch words of 'transparency' and 'model litigants' with this lot should be changed to 'invisibility' and 'bullies'!:yuk:
5th Jun 2012, 22:00
JS "and the Information Commissioner baulks at taking them on!". Steady on, fair go for the IC, the usual tactics are always 'legal'.
Chump "Can I have the paperwork, please ?".
(Aside : the Chump is always flattered about now that a High Ranking Legal Officer has taken a personal interest in the request and may be forgiven for assuming that all is well).
HRLO "Yes sport, of course you can, just give me a moment or two to locate it, here fill out this form".
Chump "Righty O, thanks".
HRLO "Look mate, it's going to take a while, I'll let you know when it's ready".
(This goes on for while then at the point where patience and politeness is almost exhausted by requests for extensions, the letter finally arrives).
HRLO "Well, all good to go now please pay 23 gazzillion dollars and you can take it away".
Chump "What - that's daylight robbery I'll complain".
(Sounds of typing and general disgust).
IC "You have no complaint, they followed due process, obtained your permission to extend the time line; and, they have freely offered you the paperwork, their administrative fees are kosher - what's your point ?. "Flick Off Idiot".
That folks is just part of the fun of the Goon Show and Yes, it's nearly all bollocks.
21st Jul 2012, 03:38
Here is a post from a Journalism [May 12, 2012] student:
which in part says:
I recently submitted a request to the Civil Aviation and Safety Authority (CASA) requesting documents relating to public complaints received in the preceding 18 months. Given the unprecedented safety issues with both Tiger Airways and Qantas during this time, I was quite surprised when I received official correspondence stating that no such documents existed.
This led me to two possible conclusions. Firstly, that there had been no complaints made to CASA during this time or secondly, that CASA had failed to meet their obligations under the Freedom of Information Act. I found the former unlikely, and the latter unsettling.
Intrigued, I contacted the media department for clarification. I received a prompt response from the Manager Corporate Communications, Peter Gibson. It was a brief, albeit, important lesson in the power of bureaucratic process.
It (a 24-hour hotline) is for people in the aviation industry to report problems, issues, safety concerns etc. As such, people dont complain about safety issues, they report them, he said.
It was hard not to feel frustrated and exacerbated by the response. It was clear that the intention of my request was to receive documents pertaining to any public notifications sent to CASA that highlighted aircraft safety issues. CASA did not make any attempt to clarify my request or assist me to obtain the documents I was seeking. This flies in the face of recent changes to the FOI laws.Certainly it seems there are non-aviation people who see the problem as well.
21st Jul 2012, 08:12
"Gibbo"- "Chemical Ali", the same person really, or went to the same school as Herr Goebbles. Features on previous dictionary pages as gobbledgook which sums up obscure phraseology and pretentious information given gratituously, or in the case of CAA for a fee, to cover the black marker pens to supply you with a useless document.