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Hey guys! I've been doing some Pilot Aptitude Tests these days, well to be honest I'm kinda struggling with a few things...
Advanced Control Test:
Basic Control Test:
The orientation is a multiple choice, I have to choose one of the three diagrams shown. I know how to find the Compass but I just don't get how to identify Artificial Horizon and RBI. The Artificial horizon looks rocket science to me, all I see is a circle within it blue and brown!! how in the world can I see the direction? sorry I'm a newbie..
I have no idea what I have to do in the control tests, and I'm using the keyboard not a Joystick for the control tests, if that helps...
3rd Jun 2012, 07:44
The heading of the aircraft is north so that gets rid of number 2
The beacon is on the right As indicated by the red pointer so that leaves number 1.
Its not much use in my opnion practising with a keyboard.
Oh thanks mate. I had no idea how the beacon worked! think I got it now! thanks!
Yeah I guess.. but main thing I wanna know is what's required? what should I do?
Damn it, stuck again.........
Why is it 1? why not 2? they both look the same to me.
3rd Jun 2012, 08:23
Because the red neddle points towards the beacon ie the cross in the middle.
If it was 2 the red line would have been 90 degrees
Sorry but I still don't get it lol.
What about this?
Ok they all look the same to me. just their position in the grid..
3rd Jun 2012, 08:51
All of them are wrong, the aircraft should be in the top right hand corner pointing NE
The RMI needle always point towards the beacon.
The fact you don't get it sort of tells you something!!!
3rd Jun 2012, 10:26
Do you study this test somewhere on the internet?? If so I would like to know were.
I took this test a wile ago but failed on this part. This was very frustrating because I actually understand it very well in my opinion. Are there any pitfalls in tests like these?
LADS I'm afraid I ain't getting this! MAN I'M SCREWED LADS!!!!!!! Yo mate this is Skytest, google it. you can download it for 60 euros.
4th Jun 2012, 16:43
You have two bits of information you meant to pull out of it.
The first one is what direction it is pointing which you get from the compass.
The second one is where its postion is in relation to the cross in the middle which you get from the RMI and the red needle which always points towards the beacon.
4th Jun 2012, 17:33
Remember that the RBI displays the position of the beacon relative to the viewpoint of the pilot, who naturally is looking along the direction the aircraft is travelling.
That is to say, if the RBI points to a bearing of 090, the beacon is not due East of the aircraft, it is in fact in the 3'o clock position relative to the direction one is pointing.
Imagine sitting in the cockpit of each of the aircraft and then viewing the RBI, and then where it would indicate the beacon would be...
Difficult to describe, bit I hope that get's the point accross...
4th Jun 2012, 17:52
yes also think its 1, because if was in top right hand corner pointing NE, the RMI would be more or less straight back 180 degrees!
Are the green arrows supposed to indicate direction of turn? Or why are they there?
4th Jun 2012, 18:03
Aye your right enough it is 1.
I don;t have a clue what the green lines are all about
Well I get the compass perfectly, it's just the RMI thing.. This RMI is really doing my head in, I still don't get it. This is how I see it: I see three aircraft's. they all look exactly the same but it's just that they're on different positions on the grid. the red needle is pointing to the west. I just can't figure it out for some reason, does the fact that the aircraft's are on different position on the grid make any difference? number 3 is directly above the beacon. while 1 and 2 are far apart. and shouldn't we look at the Artificial horizon? how do I know which aircraft it is by just looking at the artificial horizon? I think it's better to do the exclusion method, like if we know the compass (which is easiest to find) then we can exclude some options etc. how do we know the artificial horizon? since the RMI is just not ticking...
4th Jun 2012, 18:39
The neeedle doesn;t point to a direction on a RBI.
It only gives you a relative angle.
Try printing out the various test then chopping out the RBI from each one then rotate it to the direction of travel ie so the plane on the RBI lines up with the suggested ones. Then see how the needle is relative to the cross in the middle.
4th Jun 2012, 18:42
You got to understand the concept of the RMI, that and the compass are the 2 main ones here.
First do you know what does green arrows are for?
RMI instrument is simple, specially this one, the blue airplane is giving you your current heading/direction - similar to your compass heading.
Now orientate yourself with that blue plane in the centre of the RMI, into same heading as the compass needle.
Use your first example, compass pointing North, straight up, blue airplane pointing same way straight up, this one they show the same, the others you need to change the orientation of the RMI with the compass. Get it ?
Now look at the red needle, that points straight towards the station, on example 1, you can see the red needle pointing at the cross in the centre/the station, around 2 o'clock from your current heading.
if you look at the second example, orientate the RMI instrument aligned with the compass, towards NW, look now what direction the RED RMI needle is pointing? Behind to your right! Big cross is behind to your right!
To be honest, never seen this test before, and first glance I did not have a clue either. But find out what that green arrow is, I think it might be telling you what way you are turning, so it tells you what kind of bank you might be expecting, that is the "logic" I have created myself, however does not fit 100% with the last example.
But that could be only way you could know what the AH is showing, because if not, there is nothing in that image to tell you anything about the AH!
If you still struggle, try to get some software, Rant XL or Never get lost, and get some basic training on the RMI and how it works.
Mother of god, I am reading what you guys are saying 10 times, I kinda got it a little (well definitely more now than before) but still not ticking in for heavens sake.. jesus........ is there something wrong with me?? lol Whenever I understand a little what you guys are saying, I go do another example and I struggle again .. it's like a cycle .. but thanks for your efforts, really appreciate it a lot. I'm new to the whole aviation world, I don't even know what an RBI is!
4th Jun 2012, 19:36
relative bearing indicator
A Right :mad: Instrument
take your pick
Right :mad: Instrument it is my friend. If I do one more question I think I would smash the screen.
The green arrow is intended to indicate the attitude of the aircraft - the Artificial Horizon (middle instrument)
<- indicates a level turn to the left. The AH will show the line between the brown and blue tilted to the right.
Various combinations of climbing, level and descending turns can be shown by pointing the arrow left, right, up, down and to the four corners of the box. This is independent to the direction of travel shown for the aeroplane as indicated by the plan-form T.
All of this information including the RBI information is explained quite clearly at the beginning of the test.
As mj says, if you're struggling to understand what the instructions are telling you, that should be telling you something.
4th Jun 2012, 23:10
Well reading and understanding the instructions properly is actually part of the test.
I just concluded things based on what previous post mentioned, and what logically could be deduced from what was present, without any instructions.
Still got time to understand these instruments, if hasn't been exposed for flight instruments, and this is first time, should not judge to harshly about what this might be telling, is just 17, and should not start to discourage someone at that age.
But I do suggest instead of just jumping blindfolded into the test like this, read slowly trough the instructions, take some notes and mental notes.
If not there are plenty of options online where you can get better understanding for these instruments.
luizmonteiro - Aviation Calculations Home (http://www.luizmonteiro.com/)
this is a good website to find out some more stuff, mostly for free also.
The intention for these tests, as I understand it, is that pilots and non-pilots have an equal chance to pass. Familiarity with these instruments is not a pre-requisite. The explanations given at the start are intended to suffice. I understand that it is normal for candidates to score quite reasonably with no preparation bar Maths / Physics revision.