View Full Version : Which Philippines carrier is hiring now?
19th May 2012, 01:10
Can someone shares with us which airlines in the Philippines are hiring for the moment?
I know Philippine airlines is hiring pilots with minimum 500 hours TT. What about the other ones: Cebu Pacific, Zest Air, Seair and Air Philippines Express? What would be the minimum total time for each one of them? I can't find info on their website.
I'm a Filipino citizen with a Filipino CPL/FI license.
20th May 2012, 03:36
where have you been?
20th May 2012, 06:43
I've been to the website of all the airlines I mentioned earlier. Unfortunately, they don't give information on if they are currently hiring and how to apply.
20th May 2012, 17:54
walk it in. bang on the door.
22nd May 2012, 00:17
Cebu, Airphil, and Zest all need pilots forget the internet. But you must get ur type rating first as this is the only way to get in> like Jester says knock on da door and good luck.
22nd May 2012, 01:59
Thanks guys! I will do that.
what If you go there, you pact a deal, so then you go for your type rating knowing you have a work..?
22nd May 2012, 09:27
I'm actually on the same boat with flyingstar. I'm interested in working in the Philippines but don't have any idea how to apply and if ever would I be accepted?
I'm currently: FAA commercial/Instrument/Multi-Engine/around 300 TT ONLY!
Here are my questions, I hope someone would be able to answer it straight forward and honestly.
1. Do I need to convert my FAA license to filipino one before applying or FAA is acceptable as for application?
2. Would they even entertain me with my few hours without any type rating? From what I've also seen online, Philippine airlines requires a minimum of 500.
3. Is there any chance that they'll accept me then pay my type rating while working with them?
I hope someone would kindly be able to answer my questions. I try to get more information while I'm still here and not waste money to get to the philippines for nothing. Philippines would be a new adventure for me if ever, I've got no relatives whatsoever there.
Oh by the way, I also have filipino citizenship, but no valid filipno passport.
23rd May 2012, 11:27
I can only answer your question number 1.
Yes, you need to convert your FAA license for a CAAP license. Here's how to:
When you'll be back here, go to CAAP, bring:
- PPL License
- English Language Proficiency (ELP)
- Flight Time certificate from your previous school or flight club.
- Endorsed logbook from your previous school or flight club.
You'll need to log 10 hours with an instructor on a Philippines registered plane and pass a check ride from a check pilot.
Your license will be then converted.
I advise you get the help from a flying school to get through the CAAP administration... It's not always easy but the school will do it for you since you'll need to fly 10 hours with them.
If you need a quotation for those 10 hours, just PM me.
24th May 2012, 16:36
is that also for Expat pilots??
I´m interested in flying there, with lot of experience on ATR42&72. JAA licence.
so it´s better to go there and talk to them directly??
Jaz and the Fat Man
29th May 2012, 10:56
You do not need to convert your FAA certificate. I'm living proof as I fly in the PI and I'm doing so with what is called a validation. My FAA certificate is what I use but several countries are accepted. I do need to keep my FAA valid and that means my medical and also a PC sim check is required per regulations.
Cebu Pacific is advertising again for pilots and I'd recommend contacting them directly if possible and if that doesn't work, go with the contract company. I also heard that the other airlines are also hiring.
If however, you think that any of the airlines will hire you with 300 hours total time and then put you through their type program, you are living in a dream world. Unless of course your lucky enough to have Filipino parents. Now is one of those magical times in the annals of aviation history that, if one is Filipino, and wants to be a pilot, the opportunity is there if you have the drive and funds. It's a very cool time and you guys are very lucky. Take advantage if you can while the door is still open.
29th May 2012, 13:32
Thanks for these precisions. I didn't know you could fly in the Philippines with a FAA license.
I have a friend with an Australian license that had to convert it for a CAAP license before flying for Cebu Pacific.
I guess, it's best to contact the airline directly. They might help you more.
Jaz and the Fat Man
29th May 2012, 13:39
I think I know who you are talking about and he was Philippine descent. For all expats, you fly on your own countries certificate with a validation. This is common all over the world and I personally have validations from 3 different countries now.
29th May 2012, 13:53
Meaning, if I want to apply in Singapore, I don't have to convert my philippine license for the Singapore one?
Jaz and the Fat Man
29th May 2012, 14:03
Haaaa, good one but you're dealing with an old Dog. No, not all counties are the same and in the case of Singapore and Malaysia, you'll need to sit for the full conversion to the local certification. I hold validations for the country of Laos, Cayman Islands, and now the Philippines. I have full ATPL' s in 5 countries. Whatever country you are applying with will have their own set of rules and in the case of the country we are talking about,the Philippines, expat pilots use a validation. In my opinion, the reason for this, is we are definitely temporary pilots there. As soon as enough local Pilots are ready for the seat, we will be history. It's the life of a contract pilot..... However, many countries welcome expat pilots and when you go to work in Singapore for example, it's long term, thus you need to convert. Good luck! There's a big world out there and the life of an expat pilots can be a fun and lucrative one.
30th May 2012, 00:05
I see. Thanks for sharing this info.
3rd Jun 2012, 02:09
Is Cebu Pacific taking expats anymore?
Jaz and the Fat Man
3rd Jun 2012, 05:08
It depends on what day of the week you ask. A couple of months ago, they were terminating expats left and right, most with no more than a one day notice. Some of us got lucky but the writings on the wall. The job is a daily one.
But to answer your question, I did ask in the office and yes they are looking for expats again. It's a great place to work but it's not very relaxing knowing that when the phone rings, it could be your last day at work.
They recently put out a mandate a "Pilot Code of Conduct" and included in the rules is you have to be contactable on your day off and if called you must work. You cannot leave your base without written permission on you days off. And the list goes on and on.
I feel sorry for the locals as they work very hard, end up with less than their allotted days off, and now are expected to fly on their days off or else.
PM me if you want some assistance in applying.......
3rd Jun 2012, 09:03
This is seem to be another handy work of a "few" kuPALers who never learned from their history of strikes. Watch out for the anticipated repercussions of the not so bright minds of these people due to heredity (biological & organizational). Maybe the right term for this is "kuPALiculturization" of CEBPAC.
Discipline cannot be learned theoretically inside the classrooms and offices. It is acquired through years of hard training to be considered an integral part of one's system.
This is basically the reason why most Airlines in Asia Pacific Region prefer to hire Military Pilots.
3rd Jun 2012, 12:58
I'm a Filipino citizen planning to be a pilot and aiming for future employment with cebu pacific. I will finish my basic flying school program by next year and planning to enroll at cebu pacific school(PAAT) (assuming the school will be open for students).
Do you think any job openings by 2013-14, and will Cebu pacific doors will still be open:ugh: ?
Do you have any information about PAAT?
3rd Jun 2012, 18:37
What's the process in getting a validation in the Philippines? I have FAA certificates as well and am eligible for Filpino citizenship through my mother.
Jaz and the Fat Man
4th Jun 2012, 21:37
Although its impossible to foresee what the future of aviation will be anywhere, my opinion is that for several years to come, the prospects of an aviation job in the PI is extremely good. The main reason is this. There is a huge population that is now becoming used to air travel and hopping on the freeway is just not an option since its an island nation. The working conditions here are brutal compared to many other places and the pay is about half. Thus, there will continue to be an outflow of talented and highly qualified pilots making room for new guys like you. It's never been a better time to be a Filipino(a) that wants a career as a pilot. I know nothing of the new flight school other than its probably a year away and more than likely has a long waiting list. Sorry but I just don't know about that for sure. I'd highly consider going to a good school overseas where the training is less expensive and accepted. A type rating in the USA is half the cost of doing it overseas and before I get slammed, the pilots from those schools seem to do ok. Me for example.
Jaz and the Fat Man
4th Jun 2012, 21:54
Chris, you are a lucky guy and I'd get going on that Philippine passport and whatever else is needed. My validation consisted of a couple of tests, a medical, and a current proficiency check from the USA and a current FAA medical. I'm technically flying on my FAA certificate here in the Philippines. It's a very common practice throughout the world especially where the expat pilots are temporary. I doubt very much an expat pilot will ever be able to hold a permanent pilot job here and that's ok. We're here so that Cebu can expand and as soon as they have enough locals, it will be Adios Amigo, or something like that.
6th Jun 2012, 16:44
Getting a job in Philippines requires contacts meaning you need to know someone to get you in. or If you have the rating and the experience you can go there and apply .
airlines In the Philippines aren't so great in answering emails.
if any of you guys planing to go to Manila be careful i mean by that dont trust someone who tells you go and do the rating and we then will hire you its risky unless you get a written offer to secure that position.
I trained in the Phil in 2005 and have been visiting to Manila once in every year since 2005,I have friends and instructors currently flying for SE which is Zest air/Cebu/PAL/PAL ex, these people tried to help me to get a job with my CAAP Licence and JAA ATPL but the only problem was that I'm not a Filipino as most airlines tend to hire locals with 200-500hrs if you haven't got any TR or hrs on type.
be aware guys I applied to air Asia Phil while i was in the UK and i got an email inviting me for an interview in Manila, I confirmed in the Email that I'm not a Filipino on 2 different occasions and they still invited me for the interview which was 3 days later after i got the email.to cut the story short I paid around 1200 USD for the Ticket and when i showed up on the day i was told sorry Mr............ we only offer the job to local citizens enjoy your stay in Manila.lol
I don't mean to break your hopes guys but I'm very sure that soon airlines in the Phil will demand lots of pilots as most of their local pilots running away to different airline for better money. I would finally say if you have the money and considering a TR then go for it get A320 rating and start visiting the airlines I'm sure with some luck and great attitude you can find your self on the right seat.(thats just my opinion based on deep experience in the Phil).
Good Luck Guys
20th Jun 2012, 07:13
Mate please read CAR , for conversion from any license to CAAP license, 200 HR ON CAPP Register A/C is required :ugh:
4th Feb 2013, 15:36
Would any current pilots at CEBU or PAL care to share their experience; like how is your monthly schedule, days off, monthly flying average.