Nigerian aircraft up for sale, Jags, hercs, migs etc

[NutLoose]

Not exactly over utilised with the jags only having 150 hrs on the clock!

http://www.globalplanesearch.com/gpsads/htm/sepecat-jaguar_specs_1.jpg

Decommissioned Military Aircraft for Sale at GlobalPlaneSearch.com (http://www.globalplanesearch.com/gpsads/ads/ad_mig-21.htm#pic5)

[500N]

They say flyable but after sitting for so long, is that really reliable ?

Would be interesting to see how much they get for them.

[A2QFI]

My information is that the Jaguars were never paid for, by the Nigerian Government, but that BAe were paid thru a Government funded programme called Export Credit Guarantee. Under this, the supplier of goods or services paid a %age of the contract value to the government and, in the event of default, the Government paid the contract value. Allegedly this is what happened with this contract.

[Wensleydale]

I am sure that if you want one then you can just ring and pass your bank account details with confidence.......

[NutLoose]

So A2QFI in effect as we paid for them, we own them, I wonder how that would effect their resale. Suprised we never reclaimed them, I believe we have swopped the Cosford Jags Wings with those of Oman's fleet as theirs had reached their FI lives, they all went through EGNX, surely these would be ideal for similar.

[foxvc10]

been for sale for sometime now. i looked at these a few years back.

[OvertHawk]

i'm amused to see that "Good working order" appears to apply to a C130 that's missing at least two engines.....

Would you buy a used aeroplane from this man??? :}

[tj916]

I can see a nice Nigerian man explaining that the engines were removed to save fuel!!

[TBM-Legend]

Why would you want to pay for the Jag's when you fond out about their performance..??

[Milo Minderbinder]

Presumably if the ECGD had to fork out to pay BAe for them as the Nigerians defaulted, they still belong to the UK Foreign Office. Anyone buying them would be in receipt of stolen goods
Unless the ECGD payment was disguised as aid...

[Evanelpus]

Good working order and Nigeria should never be used in the same sentence!

Many years ago I went to survey an aircraft in Lagos which was being offered as in good condition for a customer who wanted a new corporate jet. When I arrived at the 'hangar' the first thing I saw was this old relic on crates, engines missing with many of the control surfaces damaged or missing. There was more holes in the instrument panel than a Swiss cheese.

I was gobsmacked when the customer told me this was the aircraft I'd come to survey. Obviously, good working order means something entirely different in Nigeria.

[NutLoose]

Makes you wonder what the Bulldogs being sold as scrap are like..

[Milo Minderbinder]

makes you wonder if someone in Nigeria has taken a tip from this kind of bulldog deal

Dog Lovers Hit by Nigerian 'Bulldog Scam' - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/AmazingAnimals/story?id=4392366)

[SASless]

Several years ago....spent two months on the NAF C-130 Ramp/Hangar area in Lagos.

One aircraft was flyable.....if you had the sheer courage to get inside it.....or a complete lack of commonsense!

Out of 25 Mig 21's....one could probably make one or two flyable with access to spare parts from elsewhere.

The rest.....scrap metal!

[chuks]

A lot of those aircraft are very low time but many have sat out in tropical conditions with no protection whatsoever for a very long time now.

Whoever gets those Jags can forget product support, I bet! Well, unless they go back to where they came from.

I remember a civilian King Air 90 that was parked for a couple of years in Lagos, left unattended. An inspection then showed that the fuselage skin had rotted right through along the stringers, so that it was a write-off. I assume it was the humid air condensing inside the fuselage that did that.

I saw a ramp full of new G-222's, some with engine covers, some without, one with the rudder ripped off by high winds and left just lying there on the ramp. That was up in Ilorin. I was told they flew about 700 hours, up to the first inspection. Then they were parked because the bills hadn't been paid.

At Port Harcourt they had a fleet of new Schweizer 300's just scattered around, some under cover, some just out there in the rain, many never having been unpacked.

Kaduna Air Force Base was the most amazing junkyard ever. Everything from MiG-19s on was out there, just scattered around rotting.

The waste is heart-breaking, but the original point always was to order this or that aircraft, get the 10% commission and Basta! What became of the aircraft itself was of little interest to those in charge. If you don't know how the game is played then you think, 'These people are stupid! They don't know how to look after their stuff!' No, it's not that they're stupid, it's that they are crooks!

Well, sometimes stupidity does come into it. They killed about 150 Nigeria Air Force people in one C-130 crash out of Lagos. The aircraft was supposedly unairworthy, but there was a big birthday party in Kaduna so that they took off anyway, and then crashed not far away from the airport, as if they just staggered into the air and then came right back down to earth. Now there is a whole cemetery in Abuja stocked with mostly the dead from that one crash, young NAF officers. What a tragic waste of life, but one must ask, 'What were they thinking there?'

For instance, when they were going to get the aviation college in Zaria going again, they ordered two Beechcraft Baron 58s with everything, including complete ice protection, about as useful in Nigeria as tits on a boar, since the freezing level is far above an unpressurized aircraft's normal ten thousand foot maximum operating altitude.

They also had a fleet of TB-9 Club trainers. That is the bare bones model without lighting, so that they could not legally be used for training Zaria students in flying at night! In-flippin'-sane! They blew ten of thousands on unnecessary stuff for the two Barons, and then scrimped on necessary stuff for the TB-9s. Anyway, where was the fuel going to come from for the aircraft, given that there was no Avgas available?

[twochai]

Good working order and Nigeria should never be used in the same sentence!

More decades ago than I care to think about, I was cleared for the ILS approach one foggy morning into Lagos when the ILS red flag on the F/D was displayed. I called the tower to ask if the ILS was serviceable, with the following reply:

"The ILS is serviceable, but the power is off". He was absolutely correct, too!

[NutLoose]

Many many moons ago I did some work on the Nigerian ILS calibration King Air aircraft, you had never seen anything like it, it was full of kit but none of it would ever have worked with each other...
A shiver goes down my spine thinking of it, I had to replace some structure under the aft bog and the carpets were more crusty than the clown.. We were verboten from helping them pack their "stuff" on board for "insurance purposes". You have never seen anything like it a van turns up with what looks like they had cornered the market in second hand cast off TV's ... Toilet rolls.. Nappies and various other items.... The pilot and co pilot entered the cockpit and the engineer with them proceeded to stack from floor to ceiling various items until he reached the aft bog, here he seated himself on the said bog, and two of his oppos proceeded to box him in with the rest of the items from floor to ceiling, several attempts were tried to close the door and after much huffing and puffing and admitting defeat they left several items behind... And off it went grossly overweight and a death trap if anything went wrong.

[A2QFI]

When the RSAF Lightnings were ferried back to Warton there was a project, in which I was peripherally involved, to sell them as a package to Nigeria. That would have been a nightmare and never actually got further than discussions round a table, within the company. That would have been a cracking QFI posting, probably with no serviceable sim!

[Buster Hyman]

Wow...got this today...

Dear Friend.

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I am contacting you due to the present situation in Liberia (Civil War),and also the aspect of investment in your country.My boss,President Charles Taylor who has mandated me to urgently look for a foreign partner with good caption writing experience to help us immediately move and receive an exact amount of US$7.5 million dollars out of the Netherlands into any account of yours.
Your area of specialization will not be a hindrance to the successful execution of this transaction.
,I am soliciting your assistance and partnership to move this fund out of the Netherlands as you and I stand to benefit immensely from this transaction.After due consultation and approval from my boss, we have both agreed that 20% of the fund will be given to you for your assistance.
Please contact my associate, Mr Nutty Loose asap if you are able to carry out this transaction or call me to my direct line(+31 648 443 ***).And please note that your reply should include your confidential phone number,through which further correspondence would be made.

Yours Faithfully,

Mr.Pius Mbata

[stilton]

Opportunity only knocks once..