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AnAmusedReader 19th Apr 2012, 08:45 Is this a wind up?
Mongolian man interrupted a terrorist activity : InfoMongolia.com : News and information about Mongolia, Mongolian language lessons (http://www.infomongolia.com/ct/ci/3829)
Frogman1484 19th Apr 2012, 12:54 Free first class for life? Ha ha ha ha :O. Sure ! It will be on standby priority 99 and as long as he flies in a day that does not end in a Y!:p
Maybe they can get him to call benefit center to book his flight!:ugh:
cathaychap 19th Apr 2012, 23:47 This is total bollo**s.
Geragau 20th Apr 2012, 00:13 cathaychap This is total bollo**s.
Why? Can't a slitty eye Oriental be heroic?
At least he got recognised when he got back home, unlike those who attempted to exact their 15 minutes of fame on mainstream media the very minute they touched down.
jonathon68 20th Apr 2012, 01:30 That all seemed totally believable to me.
Until I got to the part about the Free First Class travel.:}
Max Reheat 20th Apr 2012, 02:00 Has there been an incident?
I thought this was utter bo77ocks until the last few posts that certainly sound like like we did have an attempted intervention a few days ago? Haven't seen anything in the media or iCannot.
Max...
iceman50 20th Apr 2012, 02:52 Max
It is in today's SCMP. The company and the HK Police are saying that the incident is nothing like it is being described NO terrorist threat at all. More than likely a "psychiatric" event for the person arrested.
Geragau
Why? Can't a slitty eye Oriental be heroic?
My you have a "racist" chip on your shoulder. Pity you don't know what you are talking about.
You spout the same racist garbage on the "Australian Landing Contextualised" thread. Is the heat getting to you in the sand pit?
PapaGolfIndia 20th Apr 2012, 02:54 Doubts over "hero" of plane attack
An air passenger has been hailed a national hero in Mongolia for preventing what was claimed to be a terrorist attack on a Cathay Pacific flight to Hong Kong.Zayabaatar Buyannemekh was given a bravery award by the Mongolian government after saying he helped wrestle to the floor a Philippines "terrorist" who threatened passengers and cabin crew with a knife before trying to open one of the emergency doors.
The drama is alleged to have taken place on flight CX712 from Bangkok on Monday. But while the incident received maximum publicity in Mongolia, the airline and police in Hong Kong played it down.
A Cathay Pacific spokeswoman said although an assault did take place on the flight, "there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest it involved a terrorist attack". Hong Kong police said a report was made to them at 7.30pm on Monday about an expatriate man suspected of attacking two flight attendants on the plane. Officers arrested a 52-year-old man and charged him with disorderly conduct under the Aviation Security Ordinance.
The suspect appeared in court earlier this week and was remanded to Siu Lam Psychiatric Centre. He will appear in Tsuen Wan Court again on May 2. But a police spokesman said: "No one attempted to open the emergency exit of the plane during the incident."
Nevertheless, Buyannemekh arrived home to a hero's welcome, greeted by officials and media. On Wednesday he was presented an award for bravery by Mongolian Prime Minister Sukhbaatar Batbold, who praised Buyannemekh for foiling a terrorist attempt and saving the lives of many people. The China News Service also reported how a Mongolian man helped to thwart a terrorist attack on a Cathay Pacific flight.
Monstame, Mongolia's national news agency, said the Filipino threatened other passengers with a knife and tried to "crash the plane by forcing open the emergency exit door". It said Buyannemekh waded in and wrestled the man to the floor.
The Cathay Pacific spokeswoman confirmed that as the plane neared Chek Lap Kok, a member of the crew was attacked by a passenger. He was restrained by other crew members with the help of two passengers, but the spokeswoman said there was no terror threat. "When the flight landed, the police detained the concerned passenger for investigation," the spokeswoman said. "One of the cabin crew was slightly injured during the incident and she was sent to hospital for examination. She was later discharged on the same day." The two passengers who offered assistance were also slightly injured but they did not need to go to hospital, she said. All other passengers on the flight were unharmed.
Buyannemekh was quoted in Monstame as saying he saw a passenger struggling with three flight attendants and trying to open the door of the plane. He tackled him and grabbed him round the neck. The attacker was then handcuffed.
Cathay Pacific Flight Attendants Union urged the airline to take urgent measures to enhance the safety and protection of cabin crew. It also criticised the airline for not making details of the incident known to staff and the public sooner.
Max Reheat 20th Apr 2012, 06:42 Thanks Ice, I see it now.
Yes it took CCD a bit too long to promulgate that one. I wish we had the comfort of 3 days to make our professional decisions!
Max
Kept in the dark and fed ........
Radical Kitty 20th Apr 2012, 08:16 Hi all ...!
....taken from Madness in midair - The Standard (http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?pp_cat=30&art_id=121723&sid=36124968&con_type=3)
The incident happened aboard flight CX712 from Bangkok. At around 7pm, about 30 minutes before it was due to touch down on Monday, the man attacked two flight attendants, holding one at knifepoint.
"After seeing this, I tackled him using a neck lock while the second pilot came out and secured him with handcuffs."
What was the second pilot doing outside the cockpit at <= 30 minutes before touch down... aren't you boys supposed to go 'sterile' ??? :D
Geragau 20th Apr 2012, 19:07 Is the heat getting to you in the sand pit?
No, the heat and sand enlightened me. Racist thingy.....no, I was putting into words what I often heard in crew lounges, bars and in the cockpit. No PC? True but not hypocritical.
broadband circuit 21st Apr 2012, 05:08 Why? Can't a slitty eye Oriental be heroic?
I was going to call you a muppet, but that would be an insult to muppets.
Firstly, a little education about race & genetics. In your attempt to imply racism on a post, you have demonstrated your ignorance. If you click on the link to the story, you'll notice that Mongolians are not "slitty eye Oriental", but in fact technically "Eurasian", being more closely related to the Urgyrs, Kazahks & the like.
Secondly, anyone is welcome to be heroic, but the facts of the event don't match with the "heroic tale", hence the comment "This is total bollo**s."
Akali Dal 21st Apr 2012, 06:10 you'll notice that Mongolians are not "slitty eye Oriental",
Look at pictures and drawings of Genghis and Kublai! But then about 75% of Europeans have Mongolian genes due to the prolific exploits of Genghis's horde...hence your claim of they being Eurasian! Ha ha ha, nice way of saving of face? They are NOT Eurasians but many present Europeans are!
The facts of the event do not match his heroic tale...maybe, but were you there?
joebanana 21st Apr 2012, 08:42 Look at pictures and drawings of Genghis and Kublai! But then about 75% of Europeans have Mongolian genes due to the prolific exploits of Genghis's horde...hence your claim of they being Eurasian! Ha ha ha, nice way of saving of face? They are NOT Eurasians but many present Europeans are!
Go back long enough and you'll find that we're all Africans! Let's try not to turn this in to a racist debate - it isn't one.
CokeZero 21st Apr 2012, 09:02 Yet again - Cathay makes no comments about the incident until it appears in the newspapers. it was out for days before hand but the PR team elected not to say anything.
Just like the rest of CX- keep their mouth shut until the problems hit the press. The inter-office communication within CX is near zero. Great way to deal with problems. Can I just bury my head in the ground as well?
Like the monkeys - See no Evil, Hear no Evil, and Speak no Evil.
Nothing will change in HK.
In never ends in CX :}
Victoria Beckham turns flight attendant en route to China | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2132557/Victoria-Beckham-turns-flight-attendant-en-route-China.html)
Joker's Wild 21st Apr 2012, 16:20 Just curious, where did this "knife" come from.
sizematters 22nd Apr 2012, 00:51 It wasn't a knife, it was a pen..................and the second pilot did not leave the cockpit, the jumpseat guys came out to help restrain the crazy passenger but by the time they opened the door he was already being well and truly restrained by three other passengers including the big Mongolian guy who was sat on top of him....................
crwjerk 22nd Apr 2012, 02:57 So why can Victoria Beckham (or someone pretending to be her) sit in a seat that is only reserved for operating crew or qualified crew?? This is what the story should be about.
Radical Kitty 22nd Apr 2012, 04:57 ... and the second pilot did not leave the cockpit, the jumpseat guys came out to help restrain the crazy passenger but by the time they opened the door...
...Is that a first person account or something you picked up on the jungle tom tom... ?
Even if this is fairly accurate... sterile means sterile... should the the j/s pax be opening cockpit doors and demonstrating heroics... ?
bakutteh 23rd Apr 2012, 07:33 Looks like this official statement by Cathay Pacific as reported here indicates the two passengers were indeed officially thanked. I am not sure if he was offered first clas travel for life though.
What I don't get was how the green eye monsters surfaced so fast and early in the thread.
Unruly passenger injures flight attendant
April 23, 2012, 9:12 amAAP
A 52-year-old Filipino man has been charged with disorderly conduct, after a crew member was assaulted on a Cathay Pacific flight, reports say.
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Cathay Pacific Airways says a passenger assaulted a crew member on a Bangkok-to-Hong Kong flight before being restrained by two passengers and other staff members.
The Hong Kong airline said in a statement that a female flight attendant was slightly injured in Monday's incident and hospitalised briefly.
Cathay thanked the two passengers, who were slightly injured but did not need to go to hospital. The other 398 passengers and 16 crew members aboard were not hurt.
Hong Kong newspapers reported that a 52-year-old Filipino man was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct.
Vic’s prank too spicy for Cathay
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End it with Beckham, Cathay warns crews - The Standard (http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp%3Fwe_cat%3D4%26art_id%3D121793%26sid%3D36159603%26con_type%3D1%26d_str%3D20120424%26fc%3D1&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoATADOANA_cHZ_ARIAVAAWABiAmVu&cd=g6ATBnS6gDY&usg=AFQjCNFQ9Lpiqqtn5ldnJdF_HJavviWK9w)
Beckham breaks rules, Cathay crew cautioned - Weird News Travel Fast - etravelblackboardasia.com (http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.etravelblackboardasia.com/article/83421/beckham-breaks-rules-cathay-crew-cautioned&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoATAEOARA_cHZ_ARIAVAAWABiAmVu&cd=g6ATBnS6gDY&usg=AFQjCNGUAhsroXlSs3UJDEdJGqKhrhmSnw)
Victoria Beckham’s in-flight antics irk Cathay Pacific Airlines
Victoria Beckham (http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://ca.omg.yahoo.com/blogs/the-juice-celeb-news/victoria-beckham-flight-antics-irk-cathay-pacific-airlines-155316593.html&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoATAHOAdA_cHZ_ARIAVAAWABiAmVu&cd=g6ATBnS6gDY&usg=AFQjCNFhNK2rlP15tKrApx-PqR_EPK9ecg)
AFP: Cathay upset by Victoria Beckham's in-flight pic (http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iykar0prU-YRIpU3sbtI93f8dkGw%3FdocId%3DCNG.0227de4c9ac8d7394844c529301ea2a8.5c1&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoATAAOABAgp_U_ARIAVAAWABiAmVu&cd=o0jbv9CY-Qk&usg=AFQjCNHJc4ifbHuqPXP5zMXg5Qed_N0J2Q)
Will we see these on the "street"
Liam Gallagher 24th Apr 2012, 11:03 Despite her husband playing for the "wrong" Manchester side, I think it is a great photo and a few people need to step outside and have a word with themselves.
I don't recall reading in the Telegraph the world stopped revolving because Mrs Beckham sat in a Crew Seat in flight. We accuse our cabin crew of being robots, however when they show a bit of initiative we publicly rebuke them. Drop the PC nonsense, Mrs B is one of the most recognized faces on the planet and if she is prepared to engage in some light hearted fun, enjoy it....!!
For those involved, for what it's worth I say "well done" :ok: and cherish the photo. As for putting the photo on the street, what do you think Richard Branson would do, project it on the side of Hello Kitty City perchance?
Sqwak7700 24th Apr 2012, 12:17 Have to agree with Liam. How ridiculous this world is getting, and Cathay seems to follow it right along instead of calling BS? While I am not surprise, I find it all so fake outrage it is sickening.
Akali Dal 25th Apr 2012, 02:15 What I don't get was how the green eye monsters surfaced so fast and early in the thread.
Well, I guessed they thought a Mongolian could never have done it, only a swashbuckling hollywood type could.
This thread has now quietly spun into something about a sorry washed up ex spice girl in need of the idolatory of equally washed up flyboys.
The fact is that the Mongolian gentleman was indeed instrumental in sudueing the offender and all those " boll**ckers " should now eat their words.
cathaychap 25th Apr 2012, 02:47 When I wrote "total bollo**s" I was indicating that the situation never happened in the first place. Not that a Mongolian chap couldn't save the day. I was wrong, although the original article referenced doesn't give an accurate account of what actually took place.
It was the whole First Class flights for life thing that made me think this was a load of nonsense.
Well done to all involved, whether they be Mongolian, Eurasian, Green or Henry Tang.
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