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15th Apr 2012, 14:30
Read in 7days today....
A pilot has been fined Dhs5,000 for a road rage incident on a Dubai highway.
The American was fined at Dubai Court of Misdemeanors yesterday after he was found guilty of insulting an Emirati who worked as a Dubai Customs inspector.
Official records state that last October, the 31-year-old Emirati and his friend were driving on Al Sufouh Road when the 34-year-old defendant started beeping his horn.
“The defendant was driving behind my car,” the victim said. “I gestured to him to be patient until we passed an exit. All of a sudden he overtook me then stopped his car in front of mine. It forced me to put the brakes on. He then stepped out of his car and came near my window and insulted me using bad language.”
The Emirati’s passenger confirmed the incident in the courtroom. However, the American insisted during the investigation and in court that he did not insult the inspector.
“I was in the right lane on Al Sufouh Road when he entered it and stopped,” the defendant said. “I put on my brakes and blasted my horn but he wouldn’t move. He gestured at me asking ‘what did I want’.
I couldn’t control myself so I stepped out of my car and asked why he had stopped. I told him such behaviour was dangerous and then drove off.”
The Emirati took down the registration number and made a complaint to Dubai Police. “I received a call from police asking me to go to their station,” the American added.
15th Apr 2012, 15:40
This sounds like my drive everyday between Dubai and Abu Dhabi ...enter Turkeyslapper as the "victim"
The defendant was driving behind my car,” the victim said. “I gestured to him to be patient until we passed an exit. All of a sudden he overtook me then stopped his car in front of mine. It forced me to put the brakes on
From the Oz Foreign affairs site ref driving in the UAE:
Road travel can be dangerous due to unsafe driving practices such as speeding, tailgating, poor lane discipline and reckless overtaking
I feel for this poor bugger as I really feel helpless with some of these clowns on the road and I really have to work hard to control myself in these situations, however, I guess its still a good reminder to politely smile and let them be on their crazy way!
15th Apr 2012, 15:44
I feel for this poor bugger as I really feel helpless with some of these clowns on the road and I really have to work hard to control myself in these situations, however, I guess its still a good reminder to politely smile and let them be on their crazy way!I find it very hard to adopt this philosophical attitude when 'they' are endangering me and other road users. I don't mind being overtaken, and I don't mind them writing themselves off, but when their action places me in danger, or others for that matter, it's a different story.
15th Apr 2012, 15:55
Oh yeh I forgot this one to:
The Emirati took down the registration number and made a complaint to Dubai Police
I did this exact thing when confronted by a local on the road doing absolutely crazy and intimidating things on the road. Result = No result:ugh:
I don't like my life being endangered by some self centered moron on the road either but what to do? As illustrated in the story, get angry and see where it gets you :ooh:
15th Apr 2012, 19:48
Video tape them (locals) get great results !
15th Apr 2012, 21:33
Do you remember playing cricket or football with your neighbours down the street as young kids and you hit six runs or kick a goal, they would get ticked off and take their bat and ball or football and walk off home throwing their toys out of the cot??
Well, as it happens, these grown ups (not mentally!) do the same thing!
16th Apr 2012, 01:02
Come on, I may not be fan of some cocky Americans, but a confirmation from the accuser's companion (the pax) means fxxkxll and as what we all knew. This boils down to an Emirati's words against a foreigner and as far as I'm concerned, the case is inconclusive.
Also bear in mind that when it comes to size of ego, you won't find a bigger lot than the locals here. (And did the report mention an Immigration officer? Wrong day wrong time for the accused, surely)
Though wisdom prevails and if I may quote Turkeyslapper:
I guess its still a good reminder to politely smile and let them be on their crazy way!
Lastly, it's really quite cheap to install a high resolution in car video camera (go for the dual cam model for front and back), saves you lots of talking. I basically avoided a whole lot of argument when I pointed towards my camera right after an Emirati reversed into my car, problem solved instantly.
16th Apr 2012, 04:08
This and the other permanent closed thread on Teahid and many other examples are a reminder to all expats regardless of nationality, colour,race or religion that....
1. I am an expat here.
2.My freedom of speech and expression is very limited and I have to obey by their rules and views on law which may be markedly different from what I am used to. I do not believe anything the local media tells me otherwise.
3. I am here for a sole purpose and will not let anything distract me from attaining the said goal and making the exit plan.
4.Whenever in doubt, review the above 3.
16th Apr 2012, 05:01
any suggestions on where to purchase a small (say cig pack size) camera, B/W even, to record the road ahead whilst driving? maybe usb or mem card removable...seems a good idea here!
16th Apr 2012, 05:44
Yeah, I'd be quite interested in type of camera. Where would I get one from?? Pictures speak a thousand words.
Old King Coal
16th Apr 2012, 06:08
masalama - spot on and it is all about #3 !!
The Turtle and BritishGuy - Fwiw, I have the following (purchased in a surf / sports shop inside MoE, down by SkiDubai): HD HERO2 Motorsports Edition (http://gopro.com/cameras/hd-hero2-motorsports-edition/)
And coming soon is this: Wi-Fi BacPac™ + Wi-Fi Remote Combo Kit (http://gopro.com/hd-hero-accessories/wi-fi-bacpac-remote-combo/) which will make turning them on / off a straightforward matter (especially wrt to a cam in the rear window).
You can even take the SD memory card out of your camera, plug it directly into an iPad Camera Connection Kit (http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC531ZM/A?fnode=MTc0MjU4NjE), and then view your video immediately on your iPad in full HD.
Ideally you want one cam on the front screen and one on the rear. Now this is admittedly not cheap, but evidence wise it'd be hard to refute, and priceless for the look on a miscreants face when confronted with damning evidence (e.g. at roadside and / or in court; preferably after they've perjured themselves :E).
16th Apr 2012, 07:13
Link here (http://www.spytechs.com/Car-Cameras/dual-view-cam.htm)for another camera optionhttp://www.spytechs.com/Car-Cameras/car-camera-top.gif
17th Apr 2012, 18:25
There are some cameras that are used in the ambulances I worked on that upon impact, would set the camera off and it would actually show video from 10 seconds prior to impact.
What these cameras also allowed was for you to hit a button at the bottom of the camera when you felt the need to video tape an event about to happen or what just happened.
17th Apr 2012, 19:00
I want to know if they get the f bombed out of them from the Iranians if they will fine the Americans for noise.......double face f......hypocrats...
18th Apr 2012, 05:28
I was watching BBC and they were interviewing a local Syrian who was under attack by his own gov't. He asked, "WHERE IS AMERICA?"
He didn't ask, where is britain, france, or even NATO, he was begging for america.
Same guy that was dancing in the streets on 9/11 is now begging for the evil empire
18th Apr 2012, 08:33
Hey Paokara, what's a Hypocrat?
18th Apr 2012, 10:06
Home | Smart Witness - Protect Against Motor Insurance FraudSmart Witness (http://www.smartwitness.com/vehiclecctv/)
Great, use it all the time and actually makes you drive better too!
I got find 10,000 for having a protective film on my front windscreen which i did not was there and was on when i bought the car! Oh! and 2 months in jail for my car!
18th Apr 2012, 15:07
An underdeveloped bureaucrat :E
18th Apr 2012, 15:10
An over active Crat maybe?
18th Apr 2012, 21:11
Nah, most likely an underactive crat; otherwise, it would have been a hypercrat:-)
19th Apr 2012, 05:24
My apologies but wasn't this thread about a pilots hefty fine following road rage?! Didn't take many threads to creep to the diatribe as written above.....and what exactly is the point about no wreckage being found anyway? We all saw two of the jets hit the towers even if there are doubts about the other two. Are you trying to infer that these jets didnt hit the towers? What is your point? If you do have a point, why not make it in a thread about 9/11 because I am struggling to see why you are attempting to do so in a road-rage thread!!!
19th Apr 2012, 05:27
:ugh: I suppose there was no moon landing either? Maybe them "Rooshuns" caused the tsunami in Japan last year with their new Raygun too?
Ex A380-800 driver
19th Apr 2012, 05:38
Sihtingidly - You really are deluded. I had my suspicions but that last post confirmed them.
Ps - The twin towers did not collapse like a controlled demolition. Have a look at one one day- the charges fire in sequence around the building not all simultaneously as in the twin towers. Plus it would have taken days to preset the charges enough to bring down the buildings. Plus - Oh there was the footage of the jets flying into the building plus - oh what the - continue with your conspiracy psychosis.
Dropp the Pilot
19th Apr 2012, 08:37
Try it, you'll like it.
sittingidly----- Wow, just when I thought you could not get any dumber you go and make a post like that. Wow, just WOW!!! I don't know what sorry excuse of an education you have or how many times your mother dropped you on your head as a child but your logic, thought process and general knowledge of world events both past and present is so utterly flawed that it is downright astounding.... Congratulations, you are know the only one on my ignore list.
19th Apr 2012, 11:58
I think the USA should pack up and leave the Gulf, then some on this forum would likely have something more to do than "sitting idly"
19th Apr 2012, 17:16
Since being on PPRune I've never slagged off any one, now's the first time ...SittingStupidly..You're a j@<hidden>
19th Apr 2012, 17:26
:D well said
19th Apr 2012, 18:18
I hate to keep this thread drift afloat, but OMG. To think we have "professional" pilots flying around with this mental mania really kind of scares me. I guess an aquaintance of mine flying that day has been in protective custody for almost 11 years. Might want to tell his sister. Well, I knew Mensaboy/sittingidly.. was a bit off the chart, but anything he has to say from here on has to be viewed as dilusional, no matter the subject:\ Sir, you really need some sort of therapy...mental or physical. I, too, have added you to my ignore list...you're number one.
20th Apr 2012, 02:42
You guys (and our guys too recently) should have left a long time ago..all ya have to do to sort the issues out is send ships full of cigarettes and high horsepower cars over and come back in 25 years to pick up whats left. They'll take care of themselves...
20th Apr 2012, 13:50
I fail to understand, if you are not happy here then leave.Who is making you stay. Thats the way they are whether you like it or not. If you wanna stay then Shut the F**% Up and do your job. If he blocks the whole highway let him. Its not your country and you have no rights to go and teach them what is correct. You are paid for your work and that is it.
20th Apr 2012, 15:35
You sound like a Local with a non-local passport.
20th Apr 2012, 17:06
Right you are! I couldn't agree more.
All non-nationals in all countries should accept the local law and rules.
If they are not happy with it, -> their problem.
They should either shut-up and swallow, or leave!
(Did you just cite a campaign parole of Marie Le Pen, for tomorrow's election??)
20th Apr 2012, 17:12
Bring that message to the expat community in London and see if it flies there...I doubt it!
20th Apr 2012, 19:08
Funny isn't it? This seems to be the only place in the world where the locals consistently shout "this is MY country. I will behave as I see fit. If you don't like it then get out". Most other places have respect for both the rules and other people....the locals themselves have no respect for, and do not adhere to, the local laws and rules. Just drive in the rush hour traffic on the main highways, truly shocking. Laughably, the local paper spoke of the authorities concern for the drink-driving problem here (of which I see little evidence), conveniently ignoring daily behaviour on the roads that I would regard as being tantamount to attempted murder! Talk about getting ones priorities right!
20th Apr 2012, 19:28
To the idiot who made the above post regarding 9/11 being some government conspiracy plot, you are not only profoundly stupid and ignorant (two different things that are boxes you should tick if asked), but you are wrong.
I knew Jason Dahl, who was a Captain on one of the four jets you seem to think didn't crash at the hands of terrorists. His wife was left behind, along with the thousands of others effected by that horrible day.
To second what NG said, you are a jack@<hidden>
20th Apr 2012, 19:42
Through good luck I am the one you want to be with if you want to avoid tragedy. Left JFK on the 10th, LHR on July 6th, was on my way to Grenada when the invasion happened and turned round, was meant to fly to Trinidad when Abu Bakr had his little revolution, but decided to delay a day...Much to my good luck.
21st Apr 2012, 15:40
Doh!! It was a book DEPOSITORY and NOT a SUPPOSITORY! That is what is stuck up your bottom to produce a ...... Result!! (or are you talking out of your bottom?!!)
Ex A380-800 driver
21st Apr 2012, 16:06
si- Yet, NO ONE has actually made a sound argument in this thread to counter my POV that things were manipulated to influence the 'dumb-down' masses in the USA
I thought I did in my post. Plus I am not a yank.
But can we look at the facts. 3 buildings collapsed in the same manner as a ''controlled demolition''
This is where you are incorrect. In a controlled demolition- the charges fire sequentially not simultaneously and you can see the building collapse asymmetrically.
In sep 11 they collapsed vertically, because of the upper level supports failing and the mass concentinerd down wards.
Controlled demolition requires many kilo of charges to be laid out. Are you suggesting that the rescue workers were "in on the deal" and hid the evidence.
Never before has even ONE large building collapsed in that manner, either due to fire or an aircraft flying into it.
Have there ever been wide body jets with fuel flown into buildings before? I doubt it. I don't think it is a stretch of the physics for that to cause the collapse.
I think this link proves my point and pretty well invalidates the Controlled demolition theory once and for all.
22nd Apr 2012, 04:22
No one denies that, sit.
You make the mistake, however, of assuming that because some previous acts have been manipulated and lied about, all are, and as such leave your self open to accepting wild, stupid theories that seem to support your pre-supposed conclusion.
The whole idea IS that 9/11 was caused by a few people with a single purpose in mind.
I'm sure much about 9/11 HAS been covered up, and certainly the consequences after the effect have been manipulated, but the conspiracy theories put forward by the " truthers" about "controlled demolitions" etc. do not stand up to the slightest informed inquiry.
And yes, there was substantial debris recovered from both the Pencilvania and the Pentagon Aircraft- about as much as you'd expect to recover from an aircraft doing a high percentage of M1.0 at impact. Have a look at the crash sites of military jets spearing in at similar speeds, but with much less fuel, if you think there is anything suspicious about that site.
Ex A380-800 driver
22nd Apr 2012, 06:30
si, i don't deny that yank foreign policy was directly responsible for the attacks.
eg - supporting afghanistan against the russians (and supplying bin laden with weapons etc), their arrogant world policeman policies etc for their own interests, however there is little doubt that the 9/11 attacks occurred and that a small band of determined individuals carried out a successful strategic attack using civilian aircraft.