Next time you send a resume in

[E&H]

Here's a thought...those that are applying to the companies that are seeking pilots from overseas and in the process claiming that there are not enough qualified pilots here in Australia to fill these positions...next time you send a resume in you should also send a copy of your resume along with a cover letter with the details of the job you are applying for, to either your local politician or someone like Nick Xenophon...after receiving a few hundred of these they will get a clearer understanding of just how many pilots are out there looking for work...perhaps somebody could help with the appropriate links

[youbuet]

Well said E&H . I am on the war path with every MP in my area. I have been a airline Captain for many years and very pi£&ed off with the way these airlines are trying to get get cheap labour over our well trained and experienced GA pilots. Just hope they get the "cream of the crap " from overseas and it bites them in he arse !

[Shagpile]

Plenty of guys in the raaf waiting for the phone call. 500-2000hrs command multi-engine (big) aircraft, overseas experience, deployments etc.

On of my mates says he will probably get a job with Rex on $40k (down from $120 in raaf) to stay flying rather than do his crappy job in the cube farm.

Not just fresh ATPL students Struggling

[Pilotette]

When I flew Mr Xenophon just recently he was very interested in how many resumes I receive every week and what kind of experience levels the applicants had. This is a big topic for him, he picked my brain for a while and seemed very motivated to get things changed, Jetstar is in his sights! I think he would welcome your suggestion!

[Trojan1981]

Plenty of guys in the raaf waiting for the phone call. 500-2000hrs command multi-engine (big) aircraft, overseas experience, deployments etc.

On of my mates says he will probably get a job with Rex on $40k (down from $120 in raaf) to stay flying rather than do his crappy job in the cube farm.

Not just fresh ATPL students Struggling

Plenty of guys like this in GA. A mate just got a jet gig with an LCC. He had 3000 TT, 2000 ME command, and was a Turboprop regional check/training captain when he applied. He still had to pay $40k for the 'privilege' of working for this new company. Worse still, he must take a pay cut and be based overseas (you guess the airline). Airlines do not give a rats about deployments or overseas experience anymore, they just want bums on seats and minimal liability.

Heartbeat? check
Licence? check
Pay for our training? check

You have a job.

[Jack Ranga]

He still had to pay $40k for the 'privilege' of working for this new company.

No he didn't, I'll bet my left nut that nobody made him pay this.

Worse still, he must take a pay cut and be based overseas (you guess the airline).

He did not have to take a pay cut and I'll bet there was no-one knocking at his door in the middle of the night forcing him to re-locate overseas.

Airlines do not give a rats about deployments or overseas experience anymore, they just want bums on seats and minimal liability.


That's right and looky here, they just got a bum on a seat on their terms

[Trojan1981]

You are of course correct JR. No one held a gun to his head and made him sign up. He just simply had no other opportunities to get into a jet; this had been his lifes' ambition and he is not getting any younger. I wouldn't do it, but it seems that's the only way people are getting ahead now.

Four friends have moved into airline jobs in the last few months and everyone of them paid for it. It seems their terms are the only ones on which they will hire.

[hurlingham]

There are jobs out there with a lot more "job satisfaction" than that airline.
Passenger Jet flying is overrated.

[A37575]

Passenger Jet flying is overrated.

With a VA or QF 737 captain salary including allowances exceeding $230K per year. Not bad at all for being over-rated:D

[Homesick-Angel]

Ask me in five years, but il take satisfaction lifestyle and happiness over cash any day of the week. I have all three and enough of the other to support my "habits" thanks..:cool:

[FRQ Charlie Bravo]

Next time you send a resume inHere's a thought...those that are applying to the companies that are seeking pilots from overseas and in the process claiming that there are not enough qualified pilots here in Australia to fill these positions...next time you send a resume in you should also send a copy of your resume along with a cover letter with the details of the job you are applying for, to either your local politician or someone like Nick Xenophon...after receiving a few hundred of these they will get a clearer understanding of just how many pilots are out there looking for work...perhaps somebody could help with the appropriate links

Yes, do this... but also maybe have a bit of fun and just put in CV with an overseas address and set up another email address with an appropriate suffix like, say, [email protected] (Philippines). See which CV gets you a call up with the same credentials.:E

FRQ [email protected]

... ... ... ... ... ... ... (Uruguay)

[KRUSTY 34]

About a year ago a collegue, Turboprop Check Captain, 25+ years experience, left to pursue a Jet job with that LCC. You know, the one Senator Nick is looking at.


This is what he did to chase the dream.

Paid $30K+ for the endorsement.
Was without an income for 3 months untill checked to line!
Commuted back and forth to Darwin untill a Sydney base became available. Uprooting the family was not an option.
Due to his low seniority, will probably never hold a command (he is now 50 years old) because of a deal done by the union WRT an MOU with the parent company.
He is actually earning less (albeit marginally) than his previous position when his former C&T allowances are taken into account!
Being absolutely flogged, up to 1000 hours per year. Although that's not unusual these days?
How do I know all this? Ran into him the other day. The grass is definitely not always greener. Whilst these things are more often than not about timing, if experienced, supposedly astute, middle aged people leap into these deals and then have regrets, what hope is there for the profession.

Pilots are definitely their own worst enemies!

[Trojan1981]

There are jobs out there with a lot more "job satisfaction" than that airline.
Passenger Jet flying is overrated.

Agree, particularly for what it costs you.

Ask me in five years, but il take satisfaction lifestyle and happiness over cash any day of the week. I have all three and enough of the other to support my "habits" thanks..

Absolutely! Wasn't there an article in FSA a couple of years ago stating that the biggest reasons for airline pilots losing their medicals were alcoholism and depression? I wonder how many people blindly chase the rainbow only to find no pot of gold at the end?

[Mike Litoris]

Just lurking whilst recovering, anyway.....

Once one has made it into a jet job, how many non-flying hours are required/paid per flying hour actually done?

Cheers

ML :ok:

[Anthill]

He had 3000 TT, 2000 ME command, and was a Turboprop regional check/training
captain


The blind leading the blind :(. The implications of this will come home to roost in the not-to-distant future. Perhaps this is why so many 'professional' pilots don't know what the gain function is on a wx radar, or why green wx returns are dangerous, or why TCAS should not be used for traffic separation, or why base checks should not be carried out with training aircraft in the circuit or doing NAT or why RWY performance books should not be 'bookmarked' with the TO data card, or why etc etc etc..:sad:

What company was this? I'll make sure that I add them to the list of carriers that I wont fly with.

[Mike Litoris]

Once one has made it into a jet job, how many non-flying hours are required/paid per flying hour actually done?

Anyone? Anyone?