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flyer31
12th Apr 2012, 10:37
Hi all,

I "wasted" my time in the last years doing a technical PhD program, however,
all the traveling around the world gave me a passion to work in the aviation industry. In particular, ATC looks like something I could see myself really enjoy doing. However, looking at most of the training programs it seems that I am too old to apply for most of them. (I just turned 31, born 1981). I am an EU citizen, and in Switzerland you have to be between 18-30, in Germany not older than 24, at Eurocontrol the age limit is 25 I think. I am not sure about the UK though, whether it is 30 or 35.

Anyway, what I am trying to figure out is whether there is any training program within the EU that I could apply for at my age. I am quite flexible, do not have family, so if there is a chance to become an ATC I would like to go for it!

Many thanks for you help!



flyer31
12th Apr 2012, 10:59
Sounds good, so I will wait until beginning of May and hopefully the accept then new applicants. If someone knows about other EU countries where I could apply for, that would be highly appreciated :)

whitelighter
12th Apr 2012, 14:09
Hi,

I was recently in a similar situation to you - I applied for NATS in the UK at the ripe old age of 30, and by the time I had completed the application process ( I took my time as I reckoned it was my last chance) I was almost 32 by the time I started at the college. Passed the Aerodrome course 8 days after my 32nd birthday and validated before I was 33.

What the above rambling is trying to say is that, if you have the will and tenacity to take on all the inconvieninces that starting training brings with it: relocation, tiny salary (by most 30 year-old's standards) and a whole heap of hard work then age is no barrier and at the end of it you get one of the best jobs in the world.

I know that NATS had their age limits challenged under equal opportunities legislation. How Eurocontrol and other ANSPs continue to get away with it is beyond me.

If you want any further info specific to being an old codger (because you will feel a bit like that during training) then drop me a PM.

WL

SecondDog
12th Apr 2012, 14:32
Just out of interest, what is the 'tiny' pay for training.

I am soon to turn 34 and have been thinking of applying but I have a family and a mortgage and am not keen to move away. But I am familiar with operating on an Airfield and I have this notion I could manage in Air Traffic Control. Might consider giving it a go if it suits.

flyer31
12th Apr 2012, 14:59
I think you are payed around 1000 per month during training, if I remember correctly!

whitelighter
12th Apr 2012, 15:35
Current pay for TATC's is 10,700 plus you get 60 per week living allowance. Net take home pay for a standard UK tax payer is just over 1000.

Once you get a license and go to a unit this rises to between 16,000 and 19,000 depending on the band of the unit (1-5).

All of the above applies to NATS only

055166k
12th Apr 2012, 18:53
Better news! If you get to a "band 5" Centre the salary eventually climbs to around 100k p.a. Plenty of time off too.......during the quiet months between October and March lots of sectors are joined together.....you only do a few hours per week. Once you get used to the job it is actually quite easy, however the initial struggle to get to a life on Easy Street is like climbing a vertical cliff in a snow storm.....and many fail.
Good luck...whatever you do.

10 DME ARC
12th Apr 2012, 18:54
NATS Cadet pay scale has amazed me of late, I started my cadetship in 1987 and took a 3000 pay drop, from LATCC ATCA scale, to 9600 plus expenses! Here we are 25 years later and cadets not getting much more!!:eek:

BeT
12th Apr 2012, 20:32
Especially when you consider what Eurocontrol (and others) pay trainees.

By the end of my training (so still with no licences) I was clearing about 50k GBP gross.

:E

SecondDog
13th Apr 2012, 16:52
Thats a lot to think about, Thanks!

nats
16th Apr 2012, 22:23
Good luck if you decide to go for an ATC job, it's a great career, that few leave. However, I would strongly disagree that it's easy, the day you think like that, no matter where or how busy a unit you end up at, that's when you should be very careful, you are always only one transmission from a f**k up.