I would love to find out how I can take these tests privately. I know that it is possible, I guess I need to let myself know that I am not wasting my time!!!

Do I organise this through GAPAN?

Yes, I don't know their no. though - try web site. Costs £150. I presume you're not doing them through Airtours then?
Why not apply for the airforce and do them for free?
However, check with GAPAN, but with airtours you only do the basic 5 pilot tests, which whilst still good, is not the full battery including Nav. / maths etc which are also pretty challenging.

I applied for Airtours. I had taken Morrisby whilst at school, so they used the results from that. They said I was high risk. I phoned Morrisby and the guy there said that I actually had a good pilot profile and would have qualified for all other airlines using the test. When I took the test at school it suggested flying as a career.

Susan Price said that I can retake the test if I want. I don't see the point. Morrisby told me that Airtours have very tough selection criteria from the test.

Does anyone have any info on what the tests consist of???

I have now found GAPAN's email address:

the.gapan@<hidden>

Are you asking about the RAF or Morrisby tests when you say 'what do they consist of'?

Prop

The RAF tests.

Capt. Cougar - I'll run through the RAF aptitude tests over a beer in Dublin - far more civilised I think!!
Did you get my e-mail re: Dublin??

Negative Prop

email:

sacerd@<hidden>

Oops, I thought you were SACRED, not SACERD @<hidden>! http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/redface.gif
We'll probably get the Dalai Lama or someone joining us for a beer in Dublin - that'll be nice.
err, I'll sent it on to the correct address.
ps. Thought you were a bit up yourself, I apologise.

My email is DivineHolyOne@<hidden>

I attended those tests once.. they were good.. but for less money I would go and do a trial flight at your local aerodrome.. and you will soon see if you can fly a plane...

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4-Jets

I have a PPL, I know that I CAN fly, but I need to know if I can show airlines that.

Tell me, which test is the Morrisby? I have sat a few tests and can not remember which was the morrisby, examples of questions would be good. Can somebody also tell me about High Risk/Low Risk and how they are marked or what the mark means please.

I'm going to the RAF tests at Cranwell on Thursday - Anyone got any advice. Tips on practice excercises if there are any. How did Propellerhead & Daz do ?

The only advice I can give follows:
Medically you are perfect. You've never had hay fever;headaches etc.
Practice playing video games, it sharpens up the reflexes.
Use your eyes, dont sit all day in front of a computer, look out the window and focus on objects far away, do this just before the eye test, apparently it works.
A few porkies about what a determined and grown up individual you are wont go amiss, nothing they can check up on though.
Obviously spam up on the RAF and current affairs.
Remember most of the old codgers down there still think its 1955 and we still fly Meteors. Be sensible.
Go for a P.C. 3 choices pilot, pilot & pilot.
Navs are on the way out. EFA etc.
For gods sake dont put Fighter Controller as a choice, they are desparately short.
If they knock you back on the interview or hangar exercise try again next year.
Its better to go for a short service commission and extend rather than sign your life away on a P.C. It makes perfect sense.
Personally? Try the airlines also, if you get a choice think long term.
Keep a photocopy of every form you fill in to make sure you say the same thing on all of them and in person. Little porkies and uncertainties tend to come back and haunt you if you are not careful.
In group exercises make yourself hears but dont be the group gob*****.