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NacelleStrake
20th Mar 2012, 11:52
At what height does a modern jet transport intercept the ILS. That's the 3 degree angle bit. Is there an 'optimum' height for this. I've read, on here, that it's intercepted from 'below?'
HEATHROW DIRECTOR
20th Mar 2012, 12:13
Modern airliners like to be established on the ILS by around 8-10nm from touchdown. Ideally they should approach the glidepath from below but at busy airfields this may be difficult to achieve.
but at busy airfields this may be difficult to achieve. - tut tut. 'Sharpen up Carruthers!'
As 411A used to say "if you can't stand the heat......................" Even AMS can do it (admittedly with about 100m to spare:))
chevvron
20th Mar 2012, 13:10
It's an ICAO and CAA requirement that aircraft should (not must) be established and stabilised on the localiser 2nm before glidepath intercept.
NacelleStrake
20th Mar 2012, 13:30
Thnx for the expeditious feedback chaps. Therefore, the aircraft ought to be established on the LOC before intercepting the GS. This would be around 3-3500ft?
HEATHROW DIRECTOR
20th Mar 2012, 13:38
BOAC.. It's quite difficult to achieve, especially with parallel landings in IMC!
PPRuNeUser0179
20th Mar 2012, 13:46
most modern jets IE(B737-CRJ2/700-A319-A321 etc etc) are established about 10NM out and only then intercept the GS once established...this is all done at around 3000ft...if it is IMC and a hec load of traffic,special permissions are granted with the ILS procedures.
This is at East London airport,South Africa (ICAO-FAEL).CAA Website (http://www.caa.co.za) for charts.
Flying Wild
20th Mar 2012, 13:56
It varies from airport to airport. For example CDG has an intercept for 27R of 5000' altitude, which is about 4500' AGL
HEATHROW DIRECTOR
20th Mar 2012, 14:27
So all aircraft landing at CDG lock on at 15nm?
Yup - and often further out and are sometimes cleared to land no 3 at 15 nm................. it's a big wide world!.
gorter
20th Mar 2012, 18:01
I have been cleared for the approach at 40nm previously whilst on a nominal localiser. Remained in heading mode until 23 miles and v/s until 17.
grounded27
20th Mar 2012, 18:36
Loc is allways aquired first and it is generally a matter of how good the tx/rx is. G/S 2nd then usually requires an input from the radio or radar altimerer (usually at 1500' agl) so the aircraft can perform a confidence check of the approach path/system integrity verified followed by approval for land mode.