chipmunk checklists

[karynhill]

Hi
About to start my training on my havilland Chipmunk T10. Wondered if there are any pre flight external and inetrnal cockpit checklists?
Look forward to a response

[Sir George Cayley]

Look for VinceC of this parish. If he doesn't know......

SGC

[India Four Two]

karyn,

Welcome to PPRuNe. Have fun in the Chipmunk. You may find it a bit of a handful at first during take-off and landing, but once you are comfortable, it is a joy to fly.

If you haven't seen it already, read this thread http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/385363-chipmunk-beautiful.html

One of my posts (121) on that thread has a link to several different sets of Pilot's Notes and Checklists. Let me know if you cannot download the file and I will send you a copy.

Simon

[CharlieOneSix]

A post in the Caledonian Chipmunks forum here (http://www.caledonianchipmunks.co.uk/forum/) might get you what you want:ok:.

[Shaggy Sheep Driver]

There are lots and you might find a checklist useful when converting onto type, but once you are familiar you will find the lovely Chippy is a very simple aeroplane. It needs no check list (a simple external walk around checking the basics, and internally a left-to-right cockpit scan does the job).

Enjoy the dHC1. I have flown many types but that one is far and away my favorite. You will find it noisy, vibrating, oily, slow, a bit underpowered in aeros, short range, and it has no luggage space.

But everything else about it renders those shorcomings instantly forgivable!

[Lightning Mate]

Don't forget the downwind checks:

Mixture rich
Fuel
Flaps
Harness
Hood
Brakes off

My Friend Fred Has Hairy Balls. :)

[newt]

I seem to remember

Two
Tits
Make
Fcuking
Fine
Grips
And
Good
Pornographic
Hand
Holds

Not got a clue what it was for. Possibly pre takeoff checks?:ok:

[D140b]

I have AP 101B-5510-14 Flight reference cards for a chipmunk T Mk10 in front of me if you cant google a copy i will scan them and email for you

[D140b]

GSA tugging checks in supermunk downwind are:

My ( Mag Mixture)
Fat (Fuel )
Friend(Flaps)
Has (Hatches)
Hairy( Harness)
Balls (Brakes)

This also worked in the D140 for towing, but not when downwind with 3 young ladies (One of whom i was trying to impress) I tends to a bit of a conversation killer :O

[Lightning Mate]

Not got a clue what it was for. Possibly pre takeoff checks?http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif

Methinks it was about life at Colt in the early 70s. :E

[Flying Lawyer]

karynhill
There are lots of Chipmunk Pilots Notes on eBay.
They seem to be copies of the original.


newtNot got a clue what it was for. Possibly pre takeoff checks?

Trim 2 divisions nose down
Throttle friction tightened
Mixture rich & Carb Heat (wired) cold
Fuel On locked & sufficient
Flaps Up (Except for short field t/o)
Gyros (AH erect & DI reset)
Altimeter checked?
Gauges (Temp & Pressure)
Pitot Heat
Hatches closed & locked
Harnesses secure

I don't remember Altimeter being in the pre takeoff checks (although it probably was) and I think Controls F&F should be somewhere. :confused:

BEagle should be along soon. I'm sure he'll remember.

FL

[newt]

Thanks FL!!
Goodness knows how you remember it but I bet my old QFI Pete Ash can still recite it and remind me to trim trim trim!!:ok::ok::ok

Seem to remember the carb air was wired Hot??????

[Flying Lawyer]

You're right. It was wired hot. :ok:

IIRC, although called 'hot' it was actually 'warm' so prevented icing with minimal effect on power - but my memory is stretching now.


I wish I could remember important things. ;)

[Shaggy Sheep Driver]

Service Chippys had the carb heat wired to 'hot' (warm, really). But then they had big long runways and few pie eaters in the seats.

Ours is in 'cold' for t/o, then immediately put into 'warm', where it stays for the rest of the flight (unless I remember to flick it to 'cold' on a go-around).

No check list needed once familiar. It really is a very simple aeroplane. Easy to fly, very difficult to fly well. An ideal trainer.

[India Four Two]

My problem with "My Friend Fred..." was that I could never remember what all the words stood for, so I had to learn the more prosaic "Mixture, Fuel, Flaps, ..." ;)

However, that downwind check (and the pre-takeoff check), with some additions for more complex aircraft, has stood me in good stead during the intervening 40+ years!

Concerning the carb-heat, I seem to remember that one of the forced-landing checks was to break the wire-lock and try cold air.

"India One One, fan stop."

"Roger, call climbing away."

Those were the days.:)

[waldopepper42]

I found the following pretty comprehensive, and worked OK for the 200 or so hours I spent in the delightful Chippy:

TTMMCGFFHCL

Trim
Throttle friction
Mixture
Mags
Carb heat
Gauges
Fuel
Flaps
Hatches and harness
Controls full and free
Lookout

On our chippy the carb heat was not wired. "Warm" rather than "Hot" due to the fact that air was drawn between the cylinders rather than through a cuff on the exhaust manifold as in cessnas etc. And I can attest that the power drop was not excessive after forgetting on an occasion to return it to cold before taking off from Netherthorpe! :-)

[ducksoup]

Dear Waldo, good job your checklist worked!

[avionic type]

Sorry to be "off thread " could anyone tell me when were the Coffman Starters removed from the Chippy and electric starters fitted ?a Miss fire was always a bottom twitching moment with the Coffman especilly when at R.A.F.Upavon an Elderly "Groupie"to us young "erks" earning his flying pay suffered this problem in the early 50s.:O:O:O

[waldopepper42]

Duck, 99.9% ain't bad. He who makes no mistakes makes nothing! And my lovely chippy, she kept me safe despite my ineptitude! :-)

[India Four Two]

He who makes no mistakes makes nothing!

Waldo,
I recently got checked out in a Super Cub after many years of not flying one. I had forgotten what an ergonomic slum the cockpit was compared to a Citabria/Scout.

During my sixth and final circuit, I finally realized why my feet were getting warm on base and final. I had been applying cabin heat rather than carb heat on every landing! Luckily the dew point spread was in my favour.

[Rocket2]

IFT - off topic but your incident reminded me of when I was running in a new engine in a Falke from an airfield to the north of Oxford, pulled carb heat & after a few moments the engine slowly ground to a halt, the starter only turned the engine slowly & would not re-start -diving for speed was not an option as I only had just enough height to glide back. Some while later the penny dropped & all was well again - I was flooding the engine with fuel as a result of pulling the choke! All handles colour coded from there on it :ugh:

[India Four Two]

Rocket2,

Ah yes. The choke on the Motorfalke. I had forgotten about that! I never made that mistake, but I do remember how easily students were scared by the dive re-start!

Simon

[kluge]

Not so much flooding as fuel starvation but par for the course when spinning (fully developed) carburated Robin 2160s.

A rather unnerving feeling whirling around with the airframe shaking as the engine coughs itself silent .....then a wonderful sssshhhhhh sound.

Exit spin, apply some g and the engine (hopefully) splutters back to life :ok:

If it doesn't then time to look for that emergency landing field that you identified before entering the spin :E