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12th Mar 2012, 01:26
I am an experienced Air Traffic Controller in Australia. My wife is a Physio and wants us to move to the UK for 2 years to work, and experience life in the motherland. I know she can can get work easily, but I'm dubious. Any ideas from the forum for places I could investigate to get temporary/contract work? She's only applying for Agencies now, so at the moment we are willing to locate ourselves anywhere in the UK.
12th Mar 2012, 08:39
Didn't you ask a similar question a week or so ago? I can't find the thread anymore.
12th Mar 2012, 08:58
I don't know what the rules are about accepting your qualifications but you would need to get a UK Air Traffic Controllers Licence. Whether any employer would take you on for such a short period in the current finance crisis I very much doubt, but good luck. Your wife should have no trouble. The NHS appears to be desperately short of physios.
12th Mar 2012, 09:26
Why not check out Thales ATM website. They have sites in the UK. Assuming you have Eurocat experience from ASA and maybe a bit of computer knowledge you might have a chance. Their software testing side might be an entry.
Also google search for "CANSO jobs" for some ideas maybe. That's a big maybe though.
12th Mar 2012, 10:39
I know a few great bars who take on for that period ... maybe thats the best option for the short time you are here.
Most places won't look at you if you say how long you'll be here and plenty will apply for them on a longer term basis anyway. Plus the short term contracts that will be available will be the "pre professional pilot" style jobs where they pay peanuts and expect you to work all day.
My advice, give aviation a miss for a few months and enjoy waiting on tables or pulling pints!
Though I know safeskys were looking at people for Bristol Filton .. which is/was closing.... that was short term ... give them a shout, but I'd plan on Bar work and think yourself lucky if you get a summer job elsewhere ...
Good luck ;)
12th Mar 2012, 13:15
No mention of Filton on Safeskys website unless it's the 'Southern FISO Unit'.
12th Mar 2012, 14:09
Yeah, it was about 6 months ago I got wind of it. Not sure what happened with it - May have been something they were bidding for ... who knows.
FISO may be an option? Though not sure if his licence would get him a fiso one straight away, but those units are busy in summer not so much in winter, so it's a possible.
I still say working in a bar will be better for a few months! Why not ...
12th Mar 2012, 19:08
Well for a start, each Aussie rating he has will require an APC (Assessment of Prior Competence) at an approved ATC training establishment at his expense before it can be used in the UK, then it's up to SRG what the MER will be.
A FISO licence will be issued (for a fee) IF you have a VALID ADV rating. FISO units are not necessarily busier in summer but as they're all VFR, given a clear sunny day in winter they can be very busy!(I know, work at one)
12th Mar 2012, 21:15
Fair one Chev :ok:
Personally I think it's a complete non starter. The requirements of the regulator are too many and the individual companies will apply yet more.
Good luck, but at age 27, I wouldn't have minded a summer off pulling pints and enjoying the social side ... at 33 I would still love it!!
just my tupence ..(like two cents worth for the aussie!)
Hmmm... Just spotted he's coming for 2 years. Residency will determine whether you can get work mate. The market is a bit slow, so you'll need to get Assessment of Prior Competence - or a conversion course for each rating (I'm not sure as I haven't looked into it) - then after that(3 months?) and how much cash ... you'll have to find a job with about 18 - 21 months left on your visa. 3 months to find a job - at best at the moment! 15 - 18 months, 3months to validate each licence = about a year before you go... most employers won't look at that.
Ooft. Wish I could give you a better prognosis. But it'd be wrong to blow sunshine. With a longer residency/visa it's a go-er ... but otherwise ... like I said. Good luck dude.
12th Mar 2012, 21:27
I hate to put a further damper on thoughts of working as a controller but it's not just the ratings that are the problem, an Aussie licence won't be recognised in the EU these days. It would have to be back to college to follow an approved course to get a European licence, I'm afraid.
Sir George Cayley
12th Mar 2012, 21:51
I'd still speak to Mr Barber at SafeSky. They are involved in setting up at an aerodrome that has all the 'Gear':)
The only good thing is that your partner's skills will be in demand, but stay away from the NHS or local authority social services. Get in with Nuffield Health or BUPa or some such. She'll earn so much you might be able to kick back and contemplate your options:ok:
Best of luck.
13th Mar 2012, 02:57
The Safeskys Dunsfold project (with which I am involved peripherally) needs applicants who hold a UK Licence with an ADV/ADI rating.
13th Mar 2012, 06:42
Have you considered working at one of the colleges? I'm sure they run ICAO courses so there might be instructor or input work available. Not sure of the requirements, it's only an idea.
15th Mar 2012, 09:45
Thanks for all the tips and replies.
I am definitely not expecting to be able to pick up any controlling jobs (I don't have the money to organise the recognition of my prior ratings/experience, and as pointed out, it really is pointless with only 2 years available in the UK).
I will be returning to controlling when I return to Australia, so I am wanting to keep in the aviation industry in some form, such as an ATSA/ATCA. It would also be great to see how it's done in the UK, compared to Oz. I was hoping some company would want to pick me up, and use and abuse my skills in some form, but with the GFC it seems there's a few people around with more skills that are already recognised in the UK.
If nothing is available it will be bar/temp work where ever I can grab it. Or enjoy myself and let the wife be the bread winner!
45 before POL
15th Mar 2012, 15:27
There have been a few posts at Nats under the umbrella of company called capita, I'm not sure whether they are taking more on but effectively has been similar to agency work. Research/Pseudo pilots to name a few...worth a try, I don't have their details but a web search should pull something out...good luck
21st Mar 2012, 12:43
I have just joined on the forum so I hope I'm writing at the right place to get some advices from you guys.
As I was reading your notes I got an idea of your situation. Meaning that most of you have a lot of experience related with Control and already change your work place to try something new, improve your experiences and so on.
In my case, which is completely different as I'm an unexperienced controller because at the moment the job in Spain is "stuck". Unfortunetly for many of us after passing the tests and make the course we have no work as a controllers.
I would like to go abroad to work as a TWR ATCo but I know it is very difficult for me as I'm lack of experience in the sector. And according what I have read here and in many website from different countries, many of them request to be more than one year in active.
Despite of that, I decided to join this forum just in case somebody could give me a hand or help me if know anything else about the jobs/situation.
Thanks for you help anyway!