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chopper2004
9th Mar 2012, 07:50
At Heli Expo Dallas a few weeks back, I picked up a copy of the Canadian Helicopters magazine (Jan-Feb 2012). There was an interesting article for putting a case forward for the V22 in the SAR role in the RCAF. This being light of the impending retirment of the CC-115 Buffalo currently used to complement the CH-149 Cormorant.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/longranger/Canadian_SARV.jpg
BBadanov
9th Mar 2012, 08:11
So I guess this will become the CV-122?
Or sanity will prevail when the Canucks realise they can't afford it. ;)
LowObservable
9th Mar 2012, 11:06
Let's see a winch recovery demonstrated first, shall we?
Canadian WokkaDoctor
9th Mar 2012, 11:43
The Fixed Wing SAR project works on the next floor up from me. I think that nice picture will remain just that ................... a nice picture (note -I have no inside knowledge, other than having dealt with Boeing Philly for the last 8 years (on and off) and a rough idea that V-22 is considerably more expensive that other platforms that could fill the FWSAR role).

Low - the project requirement is for a Fixed Wing (AKA Plank-Wing) SAR platform, your comment would be like saying you'd like to have seen a rescue hoist put on a Nimrod.

CWD
DHC5
9th Mar 2012, 11:51
Nice artwork, but that paint scheme makes anything look great. Even the Buffalo. ;)
zondaracer
9th Mar 2012, 13:21
Well the US is looking to offload some essentially new C-27s so maybe they can find a new home :)
Canadian WokkaDoctor
9th Mar 2012, 13:50
Apparently, those UASF C-27s are already spoken for.

CWD
saudipc-9
9th Mar 2012, 14:48
Or sanity will prevail when the Canucks realise they can't afford it
Sanity is not an issue as this aircraft has never been under consideration.
zondaracer
9th Mar 2012, 15:20
CWD,

Just out of curiosity, where are they headed?
heloguy412
9th Mar 2012, 15:28
To a country that won't receive any support from the manufacturer.:ok:
zondaracer
9th Mar 2012, 15:35
Hehe, well that I know. Which country would that be? I donīt know.
LowObservable
9th Mar 2012, 15:46
CWD - My point is that you won't see a hoist on the V-22 either, the downwash making for something of an E-ticket ride.
DHC5
9th Mar 2012, 16:57
Though I'm biased (flew the Buf for seven years,) I think we should go with Viking Air new or renewed DHC5s. Certainly budget friendly.

My second choice would be Spartans.

Ospreys would be ridiculous given that we already have the CH149. Probably rumours being spread by V-22 builders...
DHC5
9th Mar 2012, 17:00
Purchase of search-and-rescue planes delayed again - Canada - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/03/09/plane-purchase-delayed-again.html)
Canadian WokkaDoctor
10th Mar 2012, 16:29
where are they going.... I have no idea.

CWD
Canadian WokkaDoctor
10th Mar 2012, 16:35
CWD - My point is that you won't see a hoist on the V-22 either, the downwash making for something of an E-ticket ride.

Low, there is no requirement for a rescue hoist on the Canadian Fixed Wing SAR platform, we have Merlins (err Cormorants - I'm still thinking RAF) to do the dope-on-a-rope stuff. I was attempting to draw a parallel between the FWSAR requirement in the RCAF with a (now-defunct) UK equivalent.

CWD