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Tiger_mate
4th Mar 2012, 08:35
NEW ZEALAND DEFENCE FORCE RECRUITMENT
PRESENTATIONS:

21 March 2012
RRC NORTHOLT

22 March 12
WO & SRS MESS, HMS DRAKE

23 March 12
RRC PLYMOUTH

26 March 12
VICTORY CLUB, HMS NELSON, PORTSMOUTH NAVAL BASE

27 March 12
REME TRAINING WING, TIDWORTH

28 March 12
CLYDE EDUCATION & RESETTLEMENT CENTRE, SCOTLAND

29 March 12
CINEMA, RRC ROSYTH



von Klinkerz
4th Mar 2012, 11:04
Any idea if they are after aircrew?

von K

Tiger_mate
4th Mar 2012, 11:41
The POC for the Northolt presentation is:
Keiron Coombs
01206 815992
94660 5992

I dare say he will know specifics.

downsizer
4th Mar 2012, 13:13
The website says this:

The RNZAF is currently targeting the following trades and rank levels for overseas enlistment:

Pilot - Qualified Flying Instructors FLTLT and SQNLDR
Helicopter Crewmen (HCM) - CPL to F/S
Air Warfare Specialists - SGT to F/S - Link 16 expertise
Senior Intelligence Specialists (Sintels) LAC - F/S
Armourers - Cpl
Avionics - LAC - SGT
Engineer Officers Flt Lt (Software expertise preferred)
Physical Training Instructors (Force Protection) CPL - F/S
Operations NCOs (Base Operations) - F/S
Mission Briefing Officers SGT - F/S

L J R
4th Mar 2012, 20:15
..and the pay is....??

bakseetblatherer
5th Mar 2012, 01:03
...less than the RAF!

Runaway Gun
5th Mar 2012, 01:30
...and the quality of life is...??

500N
5th Mar 2012, 01:36
...and the quality of life is...??


Excellent if you are into the outdoors, hunting, shooting, fishing, skiing,
walking, boating, sheep etc.

TBM-Legend
5th Mar 2012, 03:02
'''''and the cost of living is??

Nervous SLF
5th Mar 2012, 03:42
The NZ Air Force was severely damaged by the Labour party led by helen clark :yuk:. I can never forgive her for her stupidity, I have even heard the word treason mentioned. The NZ Air Force has a few helecopters, 2 x 757 200's 5 Hercs 6 Orions and some training aircraft. NO air defence aircraft, mind you the National lot haven't done much to rectify the situation either.

dostum
5th Mar 2012, 03:52
Pricey!

Groceries more expensive than in Oz. Petrol is over $2 per litre. OK if you are coming from Australia on holiday with favourable exchange rate. Beer seems cheaper than in Oz which is always a positive. Eating out seems a bit expensive when I do my exchange rate conversion.

I don't know how much they pay in the Kiwi airforce, but I think a lot less than in the RAAF.

Real estate: Ludicrous prices in Auckland in Wellington, reasonable elsewhere.

But having been there many times visiting in laws, seems a great place to live.

Dengue_Dude
5th Mar 2012, 12:59
My daughter has been living there for the last 7 years and I've been over quite a few times.

In addition to the above, I've found it quite expensive and the true cost of repairing the earthquake damage is yet to really hit. That said, there is every expectation of further seismic activity, coupled with huge claims for compensation for houses in the red zones.

It IS a nice place to live, beautiful scenery and generally a nice population, but that doesn't help much when you need to buy a house, trainers for the kids and fuel etc etc.

Think carefully before proceeding, mind you, you're not committed until you are (if you get my drift).

Best of luck either way.

Samuel
5th Mar 2012, 17:32
Hmmm.... a lot of misinformation here from people who don't live in New Zealand!

Houses in New Zealand are cheaper, and generally larger than the UK, and as for being expensive compared to Melbourne or Sydney , whoever made that comment has been drinking XXX!

Petrol is considerably cheaper than in the UK, even now!

There are 4.3 million people in NZ in a land mass larger than the UK which has 60 million or whatever, and Australia which has 23 million, give or take! Why do people therefore make such pointless comparisons? Blind Freddy can see the only real issue is quality of lifestyle.

As for pay comparison...there are a lot of ex-RAF people in NZ already, [among still a large number of UK immigrants every year],who presumably didn't move for the money,[ which will be less than the RAF or the RAAF, but relative to NZ], but made a commitment to change their lifestyle. If you have a problem with that then you'd best stay where you are!


Just a final point, those recruiters will be looking for a commitment! If you have doubts about that, then don't bother.

Aynayda Pizaqvick
5th Mar 2012, 17:45
Dude,

There was over $6 billion dollars in the NZ Natural Disaster Fund and the Earthquake commission estimate that the shortfall will be less than $500 million by the time all claims are done and dusted. I would argue that the cost of the Earthquakes to date is actually pretty well calculated for anything tangible. And best not forget that we are only talking about one small part of what is not a small country - that's like warning people off moving to Scotland because there were riots in London!
NZ is now quite expensive for Brits going downunder. Gone are the days of getting $3.5 dollars to the and having a cracking cheap holiday but the dollar is strong because the economy is strong. It has an economy based on tangible, quality and much needed farming goods that are in high demand in rapidly expanding China and SE Asia rather than dodgy financial products made up by millionaire bankers. Petrol maybe $2 a litre but the UK equivalent is around $2.70 nowadays!
When the recession came knocking I think there must have been about 4 million smug Kiwis sitting back with a nice cold beer, comfortable in the knowledge that they are pretty self sufficient and Asia will always need more meat and milk than they can produce.
Go down and have a look before you commit to anything. It IS a lovely country but its a bloody long way away and their main base, Ohakea, is in the middle of nowhere (never been there myself but friends tell me its location on the 'Desert Plateau' is a somewhat apt name). If you go there and fall in love with the place then do it.

500N
5th Mar 2012, 18:00
Dengue dude

Aynayda Pizaqvick summed it up nicely.

However in your post, it would have been good if you had actually specified CHRISTCHURCH and not implying it was the whole of NZ.

And not sure what this sentence has to do with anything related to moving to NZ "coupled with huge claims for compensation for houses in the red zones."

No one is going to be buying houses in the various zones anyway.

Samuel
5th Mar 2012, 18:12
Ohakea is not "in the middle of nowhere" bit in fact only 18 miles from Palmerston North and a two hour drive north of Wellington. It is also nowhere near the "desert plateau"! The Army has that privilege! I drove past Ohakea quite recently, and it is very evident that a lot of money has been spent there of late.

Otherwise, you've just about nailed the facts!

The rebuilding of Christchurch WILL be paid for, and IS funded, and will be done over a period of years, not overnight and, of course, any potential applicants for RNZAF posts won't be going there anyway!

The other great news is that NZ isn't in the EU, has it's own Supreme court, no compensation culture, no ambulance chasers and actually deports unsavoury characters!!:D:ok:

Dengue_Dude
5th Mar 2012, 19:08
Well friends in Windy Welly admit that they're on the fault line. Yes it was Christchurch, my granddaughter was born in Christchurch's Womens' Hospital in the middle of one of the quakes.

When my daughter moved there, the exchange rate was over 3 NZD to a pound, it's less than 2 now. Business leaders there are concerned about where it's going - both my daughter and her partner are in hi tech industries and are well informed about the prospects.

If so much can change (negatively) in such a short time, then it would be foolish to assume it's a land of 'milk and honey' without being realistic.

The last I heard was that the earthquake fund was empty and there are still thousands that have not yet received compensation.

If your currency is strong, it makes your exports expensive, poor old Christchurch is still being shaken - facts. The CBD still cannot be re-built because of the after shocks.

Keep your eyes and ears open and do your research first - THAT is the point I'm making and I make no apologies for doing that. I got back from New Zealand 3 months ago, so am reasonably up to date.

I love the country, I love most of the people, I do not think I am misleading anyone. DON'T ASSUME . . . CHECK

Samuel
5th Mar 2012, 19:53
My accountant, [my wife!] tells me that exchange rate between the British Pound and NZ Dollar is due to the weakness of the pound and surely she is correct. If the pound buys less of any currency than it once did, then the problem is with the pound!

The good news with a stronger Kiwi $ is that my Single Malt cost considerably less than it did last year!:ok:

reynoldsno1
6th Mar 2012, 02:14
The main disadvantage for many people is that NZ is a long, long way from anywhere else ...

The main advantage for many people is that NZ is a long, long way from anywhere else ...

Some years ago, I recall reading an article about the next World War being about access to clean, fresh water. It stated that only two countries in the world would be self-sufficient in such a commodity - one of them was Iceland, the other was NZ ....

500N
6th Mar 2012, 02:44
It's only a disadvantage if you actually want to go somewhere else.

And Australia is only a few hours away by plane, just as France and Spain are only a few hours away from the UK.

US is about the same flying time from NZ as Australia is.

It just depends on how you look at it.

Not Long Here
6th Mar 2012, 04:33
Salary wise, with the current exchange rate, its on a par with the UK. There are also many areas that come in cheaper than the UK that haven't been previously highlighted such as Home and Car insurance, the cost of fresh food - not from the supermarkets !! but from the local market. Electricity, all the DIY stuff from tools to raw materials. The second hand car market is extremely good with quality Japanese imports and cars don't seem to rust much where I am - probably because we only get a frost once or twice a year so roads don't need to be salted.

Discretionary spending items tend to be a bit cheaper as well, such as concerts, sporting events, quality eating out.

Last but by no means least there are the intangibles - it is a wonderful place to bring up kids especially as, after 5 years residency, they will have a kiwi passport, a UK passport, and also entry to, and no working restrivtions in Australia.

Cheers

kluge
6th Mar 2012, 05:57
A lot of gross NZ overselling going onhere.

Don't even bother going. It's rubbish.
Stay and make the UK a better place. :ok:

Whatever you do don't go to NZ. Leave it well alone, stay away, you'll hate the long journey anyway.

chute packer
6th Mar 2012, 12:06
No seriously, dont do it. Why do you think there are all the vacancies?
Cost cutting has ripped the heart out of the NZDF, trades and people are being civilianised and those that aren't affected are leaving indroves anyway as there is no loyalty to the servicemen anymore.

Dengue_Dude
6th Mar 2012, 13:00
My accountant, [my wife!] tells me that exchange rate between the British Pound and NZ Dollar is due to the weakness of the pound and surely she is correct

I think that's probably correct in retrospect, obviously I only really deal in NZD and GBP when transiting each way.

It is a great country and I only wish it well, but people who are looking to go need to be aware it's not all sweetness and light (which UK most certainly isn't too).

Kluge - we won't throw you in that there briar bush . . .

Whenurhappy
6th Mar 2012, 15:23
I was out there about 15 months ago and have spent a lot of time there in the past, but Europe is my home. The countryside is beautiful but parts of the society are violent and Auckland seems to be one large, and not particularly attractive, building site (not through natural disaster, but through the determination of developers to tear down anything more than about 20 years old!).

The food and wine culture is great and WASPs (ie you and I) tend to have an affluent and healthy lifestyle. However, cosumer goods are expensive - and cars - unless you want a second hand Japanese import with hockey stick mirrors - are very, very expensive. There is still a lot of 'Cultural Cringe', so much so that local media will report what car someone was driving eg ' John Smith arrived at the rugby ground in a BMW/Mercedes/Audi', irrespective of the age of the vehicle. They wouldn't comment if it was a Mazda or Holden!

I could go on...but the bottom line is that most Europeans who immigrate here do have second thoughts (especially wives). However, most do stay and most do have a great lifestyle - but just don't compare it with living in Britain.

500N
6th Mar 2012, 16:11
Whenurhappy

I like the reference to cars.

It was only 32 years agao when I first went to NZ that the majority of cars were still old English bangers of the 50's and 60's vintage, the 2nd hand Japanese imports not having started. Seeing a lot of the cars from my parents era was an eye opener.

Aukland was not really planned so it always looks messy and unfinished in my opinion.

Violence - yes, it can be in certain areas and at night, just like most cities.

And if you do go to NZ, don't mention the French !!!

Octane
6th Mar 2012, 17:01
I live in Australia, spent time in NZ and have just returned from a month in the UK (loved it, but I don't live there...). I feel qualified to speak.

I reckon there's around 5 maybe 10 together places in the world to live, NZ is definitely one of them.

Scandinavia, Canada, Australia, NZ, Germany maybe, Austria, France maybe, Netherlands, UK (if you have money), Belgium (apparently it's broke), maybe some of the South American countries? Argentina? Not sure...
Sorry for the ones I've missed, but out of 200 odd countries not many make the grade.

Greece is broken, Ireland and Iceland not doing well, Italy, Spain and Portugal on the edge. USA, who knows where they're going but it's not good. Just have a look at the current crop of Republican candidates for president.

If you happen to be a New Zealander, you're f#$^ing lucky, it doesn't get any better out there in the big wide world...

A country larger than the UK with only 4 million people and a very good standard of living, where you're friends with your neighbours and you can greet a stranger with "hello"....

NZ is a great place: friendly people, sporty, green, fresh, great food and wine, nature, scenary etc etc etc. Great environment for kids...

People who try to convert it all into dollar or Pounds are just completely missing the point. How do you put value on a lifestyle......Most people I know that have gone to NZ to live haven't come back.....

Samuel
6th Mar 2012, 18:38
Whenur

I was out there about 15 months ago and have spent a lot of time there in the past, but Europe is my home. The countryside is beautiful but parts of the society are violent and Auckland seems to be one large, and not particularly attractive, building site (not through natural disaster, but through the determination of developers to tear down anything more than about 20 years old!).

The food and wine culture is great and WASPs (ie you and I) tend to have an affluent and healthy lifestyle. However, cosumer goods are expensive - and cars - unless you want a second hand Japanese import with hockey stick mirrors - are very, very expensive. There is still a lot of 'Cultural Cringe', so much so that local media will report what car someone was driving eg ' John Smith arrived at the rugby ground in a BMW/Mercedes/Audi', irrespective of the age of the vehicle. They wouldn't comment if it was a Mazda or Holden!

I could go on...but the bottom line is that most Europeans who immigrate here do have second thoughts (especially wives). However, most do stay and most do have a great lifestyle - but just don't compare it with living in Britain.

Quote: "parts of society are violent"! I don't recall anything happening in NZ remotely resembling the riots and anarchy in London and Birmingham from a evidently dysfunctional society.So I guess that comparison doesn't fly. I've never been in a city anywhere in the world that doesn't have the odd punch up.

Cars. You cannot possibly compare the UK market to a country that doesn't manufacture cars at all! The market in NZ is also very different from that in the UK, despite which new vehicles are certainly not as expensive as they were 40 years ago, and the import of high quality used Japanese cars has certainly brought the price of new ones down. These are actually not that different from the UK, but then apart from top end models such as Jaguar, we import very few British cars, if, indeed, there is such a thing.

I have never, not ever, heard of your allegory on what John Smith drives while arriving at the rugby. Not ever. We do have the Remuera and Wadestown set delivering Janet and Jack to school in their Rangies, but apart from the usual petrol heads and blokes and their cars, who drives what is not a topic of conversation that I've ever heard. Besides, put a German badge on my trusty Aussie Holden and it would still beat the pants of any BMW!

NZ is not a Pacific version of the UK, and should anyone be looking for that then by all means stay at home. If you're expecting everything to be as you left behind, then stay at home. You're correct though, don't make direct comparisons with Britain because they won't match!

The wines are great though, and a lot cheaper than Sainsbury's!

500N
6th Mar 2012, 19:46
Samuel

You have to admit that prior to the Earthquake in Christchurch,
the city and surrounds are very English.

Walking from my mates house to an older part of town, past the Rugby playing fields with School boys running around in
hooped jumpers, it reminded me of Public schools 20 years ago.

Hueymeister
6th Mar 2012, 20:18
I had heard that pound for earned dollar houses are very expensive.

Samuel
6th Mar 2012, 21:04
500N Too true. and most of that is still there. Not many people in the UK would know it I guess, but Christchurch was laid out by the early settlers in the UK before they set sail! How's that for forward thinking! The result, even now, is a city which is about as English as you can get. The River Avon and most of the parks were planted with English Oak and Elm trees, and the Avon even has punts. Christ College, to which you refer, is a dead ringer for an English Public School, with similar aims and ideals.

Huey, I don't believe that to be true, but the same amount of money received from the sale of your average home in the UK would by you more in most parts of NZ. inner city areas excepted.

500N
6th Mar 2012, 21:14
Samuel

Thanks, I didn't know that.

I didn't have time to look the names up so thanks for adding them but walking past going from Merivale to town, Mallards in the river and as described before, very English.

All the gardens around Merivale are also very English, especially in Winter, snow on the ground etc.

kluge
7th Mar 2012, 01:36
Dengue_Dude -you're not the sharpest sandwich in the six pack are you? Maybe it's the Dengue :ugh: :p

And as for the GA scene there :rolleyes: :E


Building a house in NZ is very expensive even before the Christchurch earthquakes which has put on a strain on resource and material supply. Standards of build quality are generally very high. Outside of Auckland and Wellington depending on what you want and where house prices are cheaper but by how much is hard to quantify as regards apples-apples comparisons with the UK.

General cost of living is about par with the UK in my experience.
It's hard to make money there as local markets are small and somewhat protective. Notwithstanding NZ offers a wonderful lifestyle and climate with great down to earth people (generally). Like most developed nations it has its share of social issues in certain areas. Unlike the UK as witnessed in August last year the 'culture of entitlement' mentality does not appear to be as entrenched - thankfully. I find New Zealander's to be hard working, improvising, friendly and rightfully proud of their country. It is a wonderful place to live if an income can be sustained.

I agree with Dengue_Dude's inferences to 'do your homework'. The risk of financial failure will be reduced through military transfer. For those who do make it there my sincere belief is that you would not regret your decision if you possess a positive attitude.


Postscript:

It seems all is not lost for the UK - :hmm:

Energy Tribune- Fuelling the Rise of the Anglosphere (http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/9962/Fuelling-the-Rise-of-the-Anglosphere)

BBadanov
7th Mar 2012, 04:53
Samuel: The wines are great though, and a lot cheaper than Sainsbury's!

I wish I could say that about Oz wines - I find them expensive now, or is it just my dwindling service pension? :bored:

500N
7th Mar 2012, 05:21
BB

Not sure where you have been shopping for your wines but good aussie wines have never been cheaper.

Suggest you visit Coles or Safeway / Woolworths while they are having a price war.

That is unless you are buying $1000 bottles.

BBadanov
7th Mar 2012, 05:35
Hi 500N

yes often check out BWS (Woolies) and 1st Choice, as they are convenient. And I do buy on specials, but rarely anything quaffable at $10 or under.

And I refuse to buy those Marlborough NZ whites, I would consider that treason, like barracking for their footy team - you know, Springboks, or the fellas in black, whatever they're called.

I wonder if anyone wants to get this thread back on track... :confused:

500N
7th Mar 2012, 05:49
BB

Yes, finding really good wines under $10 is hard but between $10 and $20 isn't too hard.


BTW, the thread is on track, we are talking about the pro's and con's of NZ,
the newest and 6th state of Australia :O

BBadanov
7th Mar 2012, 05:58
500N

had a couple of girls visiting last weekend so went to 1st Choice as was the best price for champers. Got 6, so 10% off. Then I notice they have Wirra Wirra Church Block cabsav-shir-merl on special, and with 10% off also that came in at about $15. Boner! That was a good buy, normally around $22 these days. As for Bin 407, can't afford that anymore!! :uhoh:

Nervous SLF
7th Mar 2012, 06:00
NZ used to be part of New South Wales, well until NZ saw the light that is :)

Oh yes and don't forget the people who first went to Oz were made to go there,
the people who came to NZ did so because they wanted to. That explains the
higher class of people in NZ compared with the island to the west. ;);)

500N
7th Mar 2012, 06:09
BB

WWCB, Good choice in wine.:ok:
Nervous

Yep, NZ saw the light and became NZ, then the people saw the light
and jumped back over to Bondi, NSW, Australia :ok:

"Higher class of people in NZ". When you have a few people
and a hell of a lot of sheep, of course it's going to make the
people look good:O

All in good fun.
:ok:

BBadanov
7th Mar 2012, 06:18
Nervous: Oh yes and don't forget the people who first went to Oz were made to go there, the people who came to NZ did so because they wanted to.

But Nervous, they're all coming over here now. But that's ok, as they do all the menial jobs. My local bar wouldn't function if Kiwis weren't there to do the leg work. And I do like the ones with bolt-ons. :ok:

Nervous SLF
7th Mar 2012, 06:30
I actually have to agree with 500 and BB as lots of Kiwis are in fact moving to Oz.
A now dead NZ Prime Minister upon commenting about Kiwis going to Oz insisted
that by doing so the Intellect of both countries was being raised:):)
However as an ex pom I couldn't do that now as I love where we live and as for house
prices well we could never ever afford the same sort of house, amount of ground and
views if we were still in the UK, thats of course if we could find an equal sort of place.

BBadanov
7th Mar 2012, 06:35
Nervous: the Intulect

"Intulect"?? Hmmm, must be a Kiwi word.

Nervous SLF
7th Mar 2012, 06:37
Yes my spelling is bad and you read it before I could correct it 1 - 0 to BB :ok:

BBadanov
7th Mar 2012, 06:48
cheers, Nervous, you are a sport ;)

kluge
7th Mar 2012, 06:54
And I refuse to buy those Marlborough NZ whites, I would consider that treason

Spoken like a true West Islander.

But back on topic.

Perhaps this is behind the recruitment drive (and oldie but a goodie)

Australia - Invade New Zealand Tv Ad - YouTube

BBadanov
7th Mar 2012, 07:00
Great vid kluge.

And as regards sport - you would know our anthem...
"As long as we beat,
as long as we beat,
as long as we beat New Zealand..."

Samuel
7th Mar 2012, 07:18
Which you do very rarely, and you skippies are still pissed off about losing that cricket test In Tassie, you know, the one you lost but still gave Man of the Match to an Aussie? It's that deep-seated sense of fair play eh!

kluge
7th Mar 2012, 07:44
And what goes down better than Steinlager...... OneAustralia

America's Cup - Boats breaks and sinks - YouTube

BBadanov
7th Mar 2012, 07:59
Which you do very rarely, and you skippies are still pissed off about losing that cricket test In Tassie, you know, the one you lost but still gave Man of the Match to an Aussie?

Gee Samuel, is your shoulder big enough for that chip?

It's that deep-seated sense of fair play eh!

As they say in the classics: "A kill's a kill!" :E

Hueymeister
7th Mar 2012, 09:05
I know a chap who left the RAF transferred and came back a year later; his main gripe was pay and the overall cost of living. At that time a Flt Lt was earning @<hidden>22k pa plus his pension, taxed.

500N
7th Mar 2012, 09:09
BB

I'm with you on this one, a kills a kill.

So since it has become tit for tat, let's pull out the big gun that
downs all Kiwis.

underarm bowl - YouTube



Hat, coat, I'm out of here:O

Samuel
7th Mar 2012, 09:31
I don't suppose there's any chance of this penis envy being dropped in favour of a return to the actual thread topic?:ugh:

Octane
7th Mar 2012, 12:35
500N

6th State?

Are you serious? If the Tassies had their way, Tasmania would become the 3rd Island of NZ...

4015
7th Mar 2012, 12:39
How on Earth does that down Kiwis?!

If anything it downs the Ozzies for doing it!

4015

Octane
7th Mar 2012, 12:49
Kluge,

Very funny, haha.

Maybe you forgot to consider the 50,000 Kiwi snipers out there with bush experience, taste for blood and telescopic hunting rifles. Probably some even with NVG's.
The mighty English couldn't conquer the place after decades of drama. Throw a few bbq's, hangi's and free piss on the beach and the Aussies would be toast.

Haha!

500N
7th Mar 2012, 14:38
4015
Don't disagree with you. It wasn't Australia's finest moment, that's for sure.
.

reynoldsno1
8th Mar 2012, 00:02
a second hand Japanese import with hockey stick mirrors

I haven't seen one of those in NZ for years .....

chute packer
8th Mar 2012, 11:37
A couple of relevant articles:

'Change fatigue' in Defence Force - National - NZ Herald News (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10790664)

Defence Force scrambles for staff | Stuff.co.nz (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/6544726/Defence-Force-recruitment-scramble-after-staff-exodus)

minigundiplomat
8th Mar 2012, 18:07
I'm not sure about NZ ever becoming a state within Oz, we'd have to house train 18 million people overnight.

I believe Australia is soon to join the US. They have so much in common such as culture, modesty, waistlines and requirement to live in a trailer wearing a vest and playing the banjo.

The quietly spoken, understated Aussies also have a great deal in common with regard to quality of the national rugby teams.

Hubstrasse
9th Mar 2012, 04:19
extended report on 'Morning Report' (quality radio news programme) this am in NZ on redundancies, morale and UK recruiting. VCDS gave the ctte a clear answer. the thrust of which was; 4 year pay freeze, more have left through PVR than were expected as a result of recent redundancies, general feeling of being shat on and buggered about. morale low. Thanks for efforts during CCh earthquake: gvt response was spend loads +give out a book - some refused.

Don't get me wrong I aint taking a side just reporting - eg. for the dark blue some big shiny(grey) new toys to play with for the light blue-NH90, Agusta109's and P3continuation, for the Army, I'm not sure but have a contact ( wait out...)
Defence Force To Stop Forced Civilianisation | Stuff.co.nz (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/6547214/Defence-Force-to-stop-forced-civilianisation)
The interview is in audio at
Radio New Zealand : National : Programmes : Morning Report (http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport)

If you get to the point of getting the papers PM me

Trojan1981
10th Mar 2012, 01:41
Kluge,

Very funny, haha.

Maybe you forgot to consider the 50,000 Kiwi snipers out there with bush experience, taste for blood and telescopic hunting rifles. Probably some even with NVG's.
The mighty English couldn't conquer the place after decades of drama. Throw a few bbq's, hangi's and free piss on the beach and the Aussies would be toast.

Haha!



Those were the days before combat aircraft (remember them NZ?) and napalm. Those snipers better learn to shoot up if a foreign aircraft carrier turns up, because those 757's wont be of much use.

Octane
11th Mar 2012, 04:44
What aircraft carrier?!

I guess if the Aussies had Harriers they could use a converted container ship? (will never understand why UK gave up the Harriers....)

Anyway, it's never going to happen. I cannot think of any other two countries that have such a close relationship/ bond.

As I said before, the boys/ girls would get on the beers together and all would grind to a halt. (Aussie beer is cheaper in NZ than Oz)

Octane

Trojan1981
11th Mar 2012, 05:00
;)
Too true! The ADF is half full of Kiwis anyway.
In the future I'd be seriously worried about emerging expeditionary forces in our region though. I really don't understand NZ's defence posture (or lack thereof).