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23rd Feb 2012, 13:38
can anybody think of an propper AVGAS routing from Germany-FCBB with a C404 that has a range of 1200nm?
Will need AVGAS en-route.
Would be great if someone knows some places along the West Coast or in Central Africa where there is AVGAS.
Thanks in advance!
23rd Feb 2012, 13:54
That's really a question of flight plan logistics and requires detailed up to the minute information in order to ensure safety and passenger security. It's not quite in the same league as aircraft performance analysis for a specific task.
Perhaps you should really contact a professional organization rather than be requesting information from professionals who might not have access to the very latest in fuel information. As a service both to the aircraft owner and the pilot perhaps these people could help.
Welcome to Jeppesen's International Trip Planning Services (http://cfs.jeppesen.com/)
Hope that helps.
23rd Feb 2012, 15:24
Flight Service International | Home (http://www.fsint.de)
Give them a call and ask for Andi the 'Manchester knacker'-He's specialized in that kind of stuff
23rd Feb 2012, 17:33
last year I did LILE (Biella-Italy) to FCPP (Pointe Noire-R.Congo) with a Seneca II.
First of all I suggest you to do this routing with at least 2 Pilots.
My routing was:
1 - Valencia - Spain
2 - Mororcco (GMMW Al Hoceima + GMAD Aghadir)
3 - Western Sahara (GMMH Dakhla)
4 - Senegal (GOOY Dakar)
5 - Mali (GABS Bamako)
6 - Burkina Faso (DFOO Bobo Dioulasso)
7 - Nigeria (DNMM Lagos)
8 - Cameroon (FKKD Douala)
9 - R. Congo (FCPP Pointe Noire)
We avoided Cote D'Ivoire due to civil war and other Coast Country due to no AVGAS. If it's possible for you avoid Nigeria (very dangerous).
It's very important for you to coordinate (I suggest to contact an International Organization - I used this one Flight Service International | Home (http://www.fsint.de/en/)) permit to land / overfly and take-off. They arrange for fuel + flight plane + handling + permits + hotel. You can also pay through them.
Feel free to contact me for any informations.
23rd Feb 2012, 21:03
Thanks for the feedback so far. I know the German company and I know the Jeppesen Service!
I already thought, that it would make more sense to route along the West Coast than straight through the Sahara.
24th Feb 2012, 04:04
From the frequent requests for information on the performance of all types of aircraft made on these pages, it seems as though a turbine has been excluded because the boss wants two aircraft and turbine costs prohibit that?
If that's the case then why not tanker up one 404 with Avgas and send it trailing down the coast of the great dark continent, behind the lead plane, as a tanker.
That should ensure minimum flight plan company cost exposure and expense and any surplus fuel in tanks on arrival could be sold to the local John Deere tractor representative. You might want to have the loaded fuel inspected by the US State Department pre flight in order to do that but at least you might be able to turn your residue into revenue.
27th Feb 2012, 15:07
East Africa seems to be cheapest and longest, Central Africa the shortest but most complicated and West Africa a mixture of the previous two, from what I have heard so far and according to the latest prices...
27th Feb 2012, 16:34
Anyway pls take the safest route into consideration. In case of ... you know - nobody cares about AvGas availability, costs and time .Your Titan might get slaughtered and used for spare parts for a local warlord's tank and Crew /Pax might end up as hostages.
Central Africa and Congo jungle not below FL 350 !
3rd Mar 2012, 17:17
Alex, I once again point out the PuF Africa flying trip and its preparations. I think they mentioned a provider for such info.
4th Mar 2012, 11:01
Yes, and thanks for the advice. I have a professional company that is working out everything at this stage!
4th Mar 2012, 11:34
it was only mentioned briefly, but avoid the place .. choose another routing. You will save yourself a lot of stress!
4th Mar 2012, 11:45
take a look at Airports in São Tomé and Príncipe islands south of the Nigerian mainland en route cameroon.
8th Mar 2012, 09:23
Thanks for that advice!
11th Mar 2012, 10:48
where in Africa will you be going?
11th Mar 2012, 22:24
Routing along the West Coast, final stop FCBB. Something special you want to know?