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nouseforaname
8th Feb 2012, 07:06
Hi.

Myself and the co-owner of our MD500 machine want to do some training on it. The machine is based in the UK. I understand the legal process you have to undertake but cant seem to find an instructor FAA rated that we can do some training with. One of us wants to upgrade to commercial then CFI and the other wants to just do his Private add-on. Any one interested? Located 30miles West of London.
TD

SASless
8th Feb 2012, 11:36
From July this year everyone flying an N-reg aircaft in Europe will require an FAA licence AND the appropriate JAA/EASA licence/type rating.

"AND"....always got their hand out don't the CAA et al!


The US law....

FAR Part 61 Sec. 61.75 effective as of 10/20/2009 (http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFar.nsf/FARSBySectLookup/61.75!OpenDocument&ExpandSection=2)

helirally
8th Feb 2012, 11:54
Initial CFi has to be done in the USA. I looked at this a few years ago and spoke to the FAA, ended up going to the US to do it.

md 600 driver
8th Feb 2012, 12:44
not true you can do a full faa licence in the uk there is a examiner adam house
and lots of instructors aidrian parker yorkshire,ray jones glouster/south wales ,tim price shoreham to name 3 , depends where you are really

or you can go stateside
i do know aidrian parker also has caa md 500 licence and ray jones used to deliver md helicopters for the distributors in the uk

one stumbling block is that you would need DTI approval to PAY your instructor but if its your own machine that should not cause too hard to sort

heli7
8th Feb 2012, 16:14
not a stumbling block if instructor is FAA and JAA rated as well

nouseforaname
8th Feb 2012, 18:45
I think one of the comments here about July this year is wrong. The understanding I had was as of July this year FAA licenced pilots will no longer have privalidges in EASA reg'd aircraft unless apporpriated licenced and rated.

So is there any FAA rated instructors on here that would be able to help us??

TOT
8th Feb 2012, 19:44
nouseforaname

check your PM'S

tot

longbox
8th Feb 2012, 20:00
I would appreciate any advice my view was the same as previous post, thanks guys

206Fan
8th Feb 2012, 22:11
I have a licence issued by a non-EASA country (e.g. USA), how will the changes affect me?

Currently the UK Air Navigation Order gives a permanent validation of non-UK ICAO licences that allows the holders of those licences to fly UK-registered aircraft for private purposes only. With the implementation of European regulations, including the use of the derogations by the UK, this UK validation will remain for private flights until 8th April 2014. From that date forward the UK validation will be valid only for non-EASA aircraft registered in the UK.

For any commercial flight in a UK-registered aircraft, the holder of a licence that is not a UK or JAR licence must hold an individual validation issued by the CAA.

Under European regulations there is no general validation for private flying. An individual validation will be required in every case. However, the rules will include a two-year transition period for private flying. This means that from 8th April 2014 onwards, the holder of a licence from a non-EASA State must hold an individual validation certificate issued by the EASA Member State where the pilot or the “operator” of the aircraft is based, if the aircraft is to be flown for any purpose. For any commercial flight where application for validation is to be made to the UK CAA, an individual validation in accordance with the Aircrew Regulation is required from 1st July 2012. Before that date a validation issued under the Air Navigation Order is required, but will be valid for UK-registered aircraft only.

There are some other significant changes to the validation rules being introduced under EU regulations:

Under current national provisions a validation (general or specific) is required for a non-UK or non-JAR licence holder to fly a UK-registered aircraft. Under EU regulations a validation will also be required for such a pilot to fly an aircraft registered outside the EU if the operator of the aircraft is based in the EU. For example, if the operator of an N-registered aircraft is based in the UK, the holder of an FAA licence will have to hold a validation issued under EU regulations by the CAA to fly the N-registered aircraft in Europe. (Again, this is deferred to 8th April 2014 for private flying).

Under European regulations an individual licence holder may only be granted a validation once. Repeat validations are not permitted. A validation is issued for one year. If the pilot is training to gain an EASA Part-FCL licence the validation may be extended once by the State that issued it to allow a reasonable time to obtain the Part-FCL licence.
Taken from the CAA Website. Going by that the Private Holders are safe for now!

timprice
9th Feb 2012, 08:21
Hi there

My name is Tim Price I am CFII with instrument rating based at Hayling Island on the south coast, if you have any questions about the FAA licensing, if I can help you with any information please e-mail.
tim.price at talk21.com

Hughes500
9th Feb 2012, 09:18
nouse

You can have any rated instructor teach you,( I dont have an FAA licence but do have a TRTO using 500's, happy to drive to london to put you through your paces) as you are captain of the aircraft it makes no difference what licence the instructor has. If you are going to US cfi then that is different

heli7
9th Feb 2012, 10:50
Hughes500 'You can have any rated instructor teach you'

how can any instructor sign-off endorsement's for a pilot to take his FAA CPL written test and also his flight test?

Heli7

Hughes500
10th Feb 2012, 08:30
heli 7 he stated he wanted some instruction and then on to commerical. I merely stated that any instructor can give instruction on the machine as the pilot is pic ( providing he has the rating/licence to fly it) if you like continuation training. Obviously needs an FAA guy to do ratings etc etc
I often give 500 instruction to pilots on their N reg 500's