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Hi guys, it has been 2 months since my assessment day on Jan 12. I have not heard a thing. They did call my references, but that was over a fortnight ago.....is it safe to assume that I have been unsuccessful?? :(

Thanks

They would email you either way at any stage of the process id gather. No news is good news :)

Funnily enough I just got an invite to their AD, they've got 3 coming up in a couple weeks, don't think I'll bother going though.

try to get in contact - just in case something's happened...the Jan 12 group have already started....but there's a second GS starting for Jan 12'ers at the start of March.

Sydneysider - why wont you go?

I am in the process with 2 other airlines, and truly only want the job with one of them, as everyone I know loves to work for them and it is Full time etc. Jetstar would not be something I would be after in the long run, and don't want to waste their time or take up a slot at the AD for that reason.

I'm on the fence about it, but don't think I will go, don't know what to do. I guess it can't hurt to be in the process, but shall see, I guess it is a back up plan.

:hmm:

Hey guys,

Are these upcoming AD's for fulltime mainline or casual with Altara?
Also are any of these in Sydney?

Cheers

ADs coming up in syd are for Altara casual.

Casual but you work full-time hours. Silly...I know.
I'm in GS now with Altara

Are you guaranteed hours or days though jacintamerri? How much is pay for GS.
What base you at?
Cheers.

Yep! Garunteed hours. At the moment everyone's working full time hours because there's so much growth within the industry.

We have to pick AT LEAST 15 days p/m to work and the rest is optional.

GS is only 18 working days (over 3 weeks)- so we're not paid a weekly sum ...but we get $1000 at the completion of the course


I'm actually considered whether or not to jump to Qantas - I actually have more opportunities with Jetstar. But Qantas is, you know...Qantas. :ugh:

Hey guys I GOT THE GOLDEN CALL JUST THEN!! I start in may :) Never expected it in a million years. So happy!

Whats the pay like with JQ?
Do they have G/Schools often in Sydney?

$35 p/h flying pay and $22 for standby.

There's heaps of GS's in Sydney - but you only do 1 week in Sydney then you come to Melbourne for the rest.

Thanks for that. What sort of flying shifts do you do?

I'm not in the sky yet - I'm in GS still :)

We'll be working F/T hours. We can pick High or low amount of hours and if we want to early or late starts (or a mix of both) and the days we'd like to work and days we'd like off. If we want to do overnights, etc...We do this every month. We can trade and bid for flights.

It's a lot more flexible than other airlines(what i know of) and a lot more opportunities.
We can move to being directly employed by Jetstar in 6 months, domestic Cabin Manager in 12 months and on international in about the same amount of time.

I've decided to stay with Jetstar (I was offered a position with Qantas)

Ok, so you still do overnights? Thats good
Do you know how different the JQ assesment day is to the Virgin Day?

Yep. We choose whether we want to do overnights or not.

I havent been to a Virgin Assessment day! We have Virgin FA's doing their EP's at my GS now and they seem to be a bit slack with their drills which is worrisome...but their uniform looks great!

The Jetstar ones are pretty good too ;)

Thanks for that info? So what other things can you tell me about it :-)

You get paid commission on anything you sell on board. (All food, drinks, entertainment, etc is buy-on-board)
The average commission earnings per month is around $500.

You get 3 uniforms to start with...if you're a girl you get a choice of - dress, skirt + top or pants + top. You can mix and match and the tops are short or 3/4 sleeve.
I got two skirts and one pant - two short sleeve tops and one 3/4.
Plus - two orange blazers, a belt, a winter coat and a suitcase.

Not many people get the dress - it has a really strange fit.

Guys - 3X shirts + pants, a black jacket/blazer, a winter coat, a belt, suitcase ....that's it, i think. I think there's a long and short sleeve choice as well.

Obviously, you get paid while on overnights + allowances which all gets added to the following pay.

The only negative that i've found is that in the ground school - you will have people who aren't passionate about the job and they applied because "they had nothing else to do" but i personally believe that those people won't handle the job well and will drop out within the first few months.
....I guess that's the same with every airline though!

And you'll need to have money saved up before ground school or be willing to use a credit card for a month or so.

I can't believe that - that people are only doing it just because! And then there are those who have been trying for 3 years and can't. But you know what, you can really tell on the job if they're in it or not, and you are right in saying it may not be for them afterall. I am still waiting to hear back from Qantas but have taken Jetstar already. I too thought they seemed more flexible and that there are more opportunities as opposed to MAM. Also - on the news this morning it was said that the big cull Qantas are doing at the moment will also include cabin crew - majority from Melbourne too. There also is not guarantee with MAM that you'll start soon after ground school completion. They said it can be up to 6 months even.....Such big changes and the HUGE drop in profits & reputation too isn't a very good sign right at this point in my career lol so I will see where Jetstar takes me, I really liked them at the AD and felt that it's more for me :) I really look forward to meeting you one day JacintaMerri! :p

Hope89, I don't mean to nitpick but the HUGE drop in profits is for the Qantas Group, which includes Jetstar. We're one big happy family :) I love working for Qantas, we get a bad rap in the media, but I find the majority of passengers to walk away very happy. Yes, different airlines suit different personalities, but at the end of the day we all do the same job. To those that have the dream, keep applying and stay positive.

Their profit didn't include Jetstar - that profit is for Qantas alone. Jetstar made a record profit (and record growth)! I think it was like 150 million after taxes. We were discussing it at GS yesterday with the trainers.

If i were you...I'd definitely would go Jetstar but the choice is yours in the end!
Oh, and Jacinta is my real name so i'll be easy to find when you start flying!

Quote from Jetstar website - Jetstar achieved a record Underlying EBIT result of $169 million

Jacinta...

Where are you getting your info from because some of it seems quite incorrect...
There's no movement from ALTARA into Jetstar anymore and the chances of becoming a cabin manager with Jetstar are slim as they don't hire into Jetstar anymore, it's all contract thru ALTARA, both casuals and full time employment...

As for commission being at $500 per month, 1 too many '0' there...

I have to agree with citiflier, I know a friend who works for jetstar ad has for years and has said the same.

have to agree with Cityflier...more accurate figure would be $50 per month and that's being generous:)

gc

Some things you have written is true but it doesn't work the way you have written it... You can bid for flights but only 3 per month... Swapping you can do but is hard with legalities around duties and days off...

Bidding for overnights, JQ don't really overnight, if they do most Jetstar crew will get them, not ALTARA as it's more expensive to send casuals away.

Sounds like someone's talking up the story a little too much to you Jacinta, cause what you painted is a very different picture to the real world..

Jacinta and Hope89
Qantas Domestic, like Jetstar is adding capacity into the domestic market-something like 5% for Qantas Domestic, alot more for jetstar. lots of opportunities so I wouldnt worry about them 'losing' any cabin crew in melbourne or any other base. You may have to wait a few months before starting Ground school but then once you complete you will not have to wait at all before starting flying-youll start flying ASAP! You need to.

Qantas Group includes EVERYTHING they own. When they report, its for the WHOLE group including Jetstar, sure Jetstar made a nice profit, but other parts didnt (the profits from one part help subsidise the losses from another part of the group)

During interviews and training they talk everything up! Even during my Qantas training they talked it UP (being casual), your best off asking someone who has the same contract what its actually like, that way you have a realistic view of what will happen/what you will when out online.

People do jobs for different reasons, some people really really want to be cabin crew, others just 'find' the job-you shouldnt judge anyones intentions as to why they are doing it. After all, you could end up being the person leaving sooner rather than later.

I would suggest to anyone who posts anything to be sure about what your posting, cause it may come back to bite you-especially when speaking about your fellow trainees who may actually read theses forums too-your all ONE TEAM.
(PS-sorry about this long as post:\)

^^^very true!!

They talk everything up at ADs and GS. also, I wouldn't judge people and be VERY careful what you post here. Has bitten people in the bum before!

Hi! does anyone know if accomodation i provided for new crew that dont live in syd or mel during gs? iv got an ad this week but live in canberra and would like to know a bit about it before i get carried away. THANKS!!!!!

I don't think all the lengthy formal explanations on here are really necessary. We are all very new, just trying to follow our dreams which we did work very hard for and get as much info as possible......this forum is merely to discuss things. With that said, now we can move on :) I think that we will never really know ANYTHING correctly until we find out for ourselves. What people say on here is totally different to what others have corrected, and then yet again totally different to what the recruiters said on the AD! I think judging by that we can't take any of this too seriously :ok: I'm just happy, and excited, and so very THANKFUL that I made it through. It took me three years to get to this point and I never gave up. Just goes to show - if you really really want it, it will happen.

Thanks Danfromus... you clarified my point. The boys in the D & G forums can battle out the particulars of who actually owns what, who pays for Jetstars leasings, fuel, training etc. At the end of the day it's 1 group ( for the time being :) )

I would also be sceptical about Mel crew being culled. Not sure about Dom, but half their LH flights are cross crewed with Syd at great expense. Unless they close the base completely I think they are fine.

GS is super exciting, but also a bit wanky in regards to "Go Team". When you get on line you'll figure it out for yourself. And hopefully love it!

Bbear75, good point on the boys can work it out lol Not up to us, just stick to the flying part hehe! That "Go Team" phrase sounds interesting! looks like they very much love to get you motivated and are very passionate. Is it like that the whole way through? I think GS will be anything but boring, I know i'll love it. Just out of curiosity, are the trainers the same people who ran the AD?? Or is it a totally different team.

Posted on the qantas website 2 days ago. It's the Qantas Group profits. As you will read - the profits from each Qantas Group Airline are separate
In saying that, yes, a percentage of Jetstar's profit will have to go to keeping Qantas afloat.

About Qantas - Media Room - Media Releases - QANTAS ANNOUNCES PROFIT RESULT, RESPONSE TO ECONOMIC CONDITIONS (http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airlines/media-releases/feb-2012/5367/global/en)

"Jetstar achieved record underlying EBIT of $147 million, up $4 million on last year’s first-half earnings."
“Jetstar continues to increase capacity both domestically and internationally,” Mr Joyce said."

I wouldn't post these things on here if I wasn't 100 percent certain of it's accuracy.
As for the other things re: overnights and commissions.

I can't quote for the overnights as it's come from a protected document - if you ask a Jetstar FA that you know -I'm sure they'll tell you about it but I'm not going to risk my job.

The commissions - it's simple mathematics. The average whole day earnings from on-board sales is $2000. Let's say, 5% of that goes to commission, divide it by four(A320) (all commission is split between the crew) and you can EASILY get between 3 to 500 per month.

Up-sell, up-sell! UP-SELL!! Hahaha...

Re: trading flights - yes, we can but it is strictly between Altara employees only.
Re: the bidding - Unless you're a Jetstar F/A, you won't know about it yet - It only came out a month ago.

If anyones interested - here's another great article - the link says it all! :D
Qantas cuts international services to grow profitable domestic market as Jetstar grows all around | CAPA (http://www.centreforaviation.com/analysis/qantas-cuts-international-services-to-grow-profitable-domestic-market-as-jetstar-grows-all-around-68423)

Sorry for the essay....I wasn't expecting so many people to reply!!! And I'm a bit of a :8:8 and i love my job :ok:

Your enthusiasm makes me smile Jacintamerri :D And the record EBIT is great, but it's only a 3% increase on 8% growth. At the end of the day let's hope that there's room for low cost and full service carriers in Oz, bc without each other performing neither of us would survive.

Jacinta...

Please correct your post in regards to saying your posting everything that's 100% correct because your posting things that are 60% incorrect...

Please go and speak to cabin crew out online about commissions and requests/overnights before posting false information on here. Your still in ground school, you haven't even been given a roster yet, operated a flight, served any food to know how much $$ you make per day...

As for selling $2000 worth of product... That would mean you had to sell the ENTIRE amount of product onboard to achieve that... You have got the whole thing wrong, its more like $2000 per aircraft per day, and the 5%, that's is not the current % being paid... Please get your facts right and go and speak to operating crew before posting anything else on here.

Citiflier

Way to troll, troll, troll, my friend.

Of course it's $2,000 per aircraft per day...i thought that was obvious - I'm wholeheartedly sorry if it wasn't. Don't you think i may have had a day (a half-day to be precise!) with the catering company, using the POS and being told about commissions. Honestly....how else would i know? :8 And my instructors are operating crew

Assumptions dig holes.

And you should watch what you write about rosters. I start flying in a week.

Argument over. I have zero time for people with negative attitudes towards others.

:) Anyways...I'm watching Homeland....Have a great evening! :)

Hilarious - another starry eyed 19 year old kid that thinks sun shines out Jetstar's arse! Ah god help me it's like torturing small furry animals!:}

Be sure to let us know how you go in a few months...

Ground instructors are not operating crew, they are designated ground instructors...

Jacinta, you have been talking to operating crew on here the whole time - read between the lines and listen to the people that know...

Happy flying!

Hi again everyone!

any going to the sydney ad tommorow morning? just finished my cv, my names simon if your on the look out tommorow, it would be great to meet some fellow ppruners!!!
cheers

Hi Everyone, new here! Can someone advise about accommodation & flying to & from Melbourne in regards to Ground school training etc? Do Altara organise & pay for this ?
cheers :)

Hi guys.

Iam planning on returning to Melbourne to live in 12 months time,and want to keep my flying career going(currently a cabin manager for easyJet).

How hard is it to get into Jetstar in Australia,what is the usual waiting time for hearing about applictions(should I apply prior to leaving the UK).
What's the starting salary?
Any info would be appreciated.

hey an update from recruiters, just came back from altara interview, said will check refs within few days and will have answer within ten.
also they said there r e few full time positions avail and some ppl might go directly to full time.
and negotiations r underway to give altara casuals travel benifits.
also casuals r most likely to be returning home and not get much night stops and.... are only domestic

In regards to the training questions above...

Yes accom and flights to Melb are fully paid for - I believe you will be staying at the Holiday Inn.

Also believe at the end of training you will receive a $1000 'bonus'.

Good luck all :)

Dont think I ever made more than about $40 comm at JQ! lol

Hey!

Has anyone who attended the recent recruitment days in Sydney with Altara/Jetstar heard back as yet? My references were checked 2 weeks ago and I received a call telling me to get my RSA and First Aid Cert last week and now just waiting. Anyone heard if they are def doing the April GS that was mentioned at the AD?

Hey everyone :) Is anybody else starting ground school on May 14 in Melbourne??

Hi Skyqueen,

Thank you for that info, greatly appreciated :ok:

Cheers
Chelsea

i see jet* are recruiting in newcastle on seek, i wasnt aware they had a base there! how often do they hire for newcastle?

Hi

I was hoping somebody who is employed as Altara Casual FA can clear up some information regarding rooster.
I read from previous posts that we can choose whether we want or don't want to do overnight trips and also choose the preferred working days. It seems very very flexible.

Thank you for any info regarding overnights, hours, trip swapping, days off, etc.

Altara can pretty much pick and choose the days they want to work, but you can't choose whether to have overnights or not.

Thanks ilana182,

so how many overnights would you do per month on avarage? Are you able to do trip swap as long as its legal?

Thanks

Hi has anyone applied for Jetstar Auckland base? I applied last week and had my Phone interview yesterday. Very exciting :-)

Hey guys, is anyone pencilled in for the Jetstar/Altara Sydney Casual ground school scheduled for June?

Yes, you can choose whether you want to do overnights or not. :)
I have about 3 unscheduled overnights per month...so they call me to go when they need people to go to other bases instead of it being rostered.

I'm employed by Altara.

Hey Jacintamerri thanks for that, very informative. So what is the training program like with Altara? I k iw it's 4 weeks but how is it broken up?

For Sydney based crew where is the training done for Jetstar?

Is anyone else here scheduled for GS with Altara in June for Jetstar Sydney Based casuals???

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Just got the call! I got the job! AKL Base. GS Starts in September.

Anyone else ?

Heya,

Is there anyone who attended the SEQ AD heard anything back yet?

I applied just over a year ago for a cabin crew position and was selected for the final interview and was unsuccessful! So after a year I applied again and they called me last week (25th of june) saying a few questions about where I have worked etc and whether I'm looking for full time or casual etc. they said they will get back to me in 5-10 business days for the assessment and I did mention that I applied last year. I think I lacked experience or short of referees last year. This time I think I got the potential. This is for the Melbourne cabin crew position. Anyone else got contacted via phone recently?

Bali yes, but its a return flight so you dont overnight

Just wondering if anyone that made it to one on ones in Melbourne (18 July), has heard anything from Altara. Also how many people generally make it through to ground school.

Hey there, yes I made it through to the interview stage. Not taking the Melbourne base now though.. I'm in the process of doing all my medicals/ teeth X-rays etc and going to making the move to SEQ. start GS there at the end of November. As the ground school was for the start if september I wouldn't have had the time to get everything done and move to Melbourne (from Adelaide). So going to brizzy now instead

Hi :)
I have been selected for Altara's AD for a casual position with Jetstar, date yet to be informed of.
I have a couple of questions that I hope some current FA's can answer.
How many shifts per week would a casual get?
Im in Melbourne, is all the training in Melbourne?
And can I juggle this job with a young family (2 kids under school age) and a hubby.

Thanks x

Hi there,

Does anyone have details regarding take-home pay for the recently advertised Cabin Manager positions in SYD?

I've taken a look at the latest EBA but if anyone could give me a rough estimation of what you take home fortnightly (after tax) I'd really appreciate it!

Feel free to PM if you'd prefer.

Thanks guys - and good luck for those with ADs/Ground Schools coming up :)

Yes they are recruiting externally for "experienced" Cabin Managers based in DRW and SYD - so I assume that includes Senior FAs/FA1s from other airlines.

Anyone have ideas of the fortnightly take-home pay, rosters etc for a domestic Cabin Manager based in SYD?

Team Jetstar contract??

Do you need a Australian passport to work for Jetstar Australia, or will a UK passport plus visa suffice?

Hello Taroom - recruitment is dependant on operational requirements.

Darwin based crew operate to a number of destinations and includes Asia.

Good day
Anyone else put on active hold Seq ? Was scheduled for feb 13 gs with all medical and security clearances complete just chomping at the bit waiting working two jobs to cover the time with no pay, has anyone else been on active hold and do you eventually get in ? Thanks for any reply

Has anybody that is currently on hold with Altara, preferably for MEL base, heard any more about being sent for medicals, and when training is looking likely to be? It has been 2 1/2 months now since the assessment day, and my hope is beginning to lack..

I think we're all on hold, all bases, and with the teething isues the 787 is having and proposed merger of virgin and tiger I can not see any news soon. :ugh:

Hi all,

This may not be the best place to post but Qantas, Jetstar and Jetconnect are all related anyway! I went to an assessment day on the 9th of Feb, got through to one on one interviews and they had contacted both of my referees by the 13th of Feb. My friend who also went to the assessment day with me has received an online hogans test to complete whilst I have still heard nothing. (My friend has not given copies of her drivers license or birth cert)

Do you think this means that I am out of the running? Or is it too early to decide? I know once they complete the hogans that its pretty much straight to medicals from there, but is everyone meant to do a hogans test? And do they get sent out all at once? My partner also received the online test within a week of attending the assessment day, and now I feel as if I am waiting for nothing! I wish they would tell me either way.

Thanks for any help!

Hi All
I have a phone interview with Jetstar today. Can anyone tell me what they may ask in the phone interview please?
Its for Jetstar Auckland based.

Thanks

Have you gotten your phone interview yet? They as you questions like, What do you think the role of a flight attendent is? What is your expected salary? Are you alright with shift work? Why do you want to work for Jetstar?

I got mine and got an email to go to the assessment centre on Monday 18th March.

Is anyone else going aswell? I wonder what the assessment centre will be like...

How did you two above^ go at the AKL assessment centre?