Requirements for ME instructor

[Andy365]

Hi, I'm a career instructor moving to Oz form UK (got married) what are the hours required for a multi engine instructor rating? I ask as this is the step which I am halfway through in the UK. I have 2,780 hours total but only 34 on twins. Any help would be most useful. Thanks a lot.

[Checkboard]

From my (nearly 20 year old!) memory - you need to:

- first obtain an Australian CPL (or better),
Civil Aviation Safety Authority - Flight crew licensing FAQs (http://www.casa.gov.au/scripts/nc.dll?WCMS:STANDARD::pc=PC_90017#fcl1)

- then an Australian Instructor rating,
6.1 An applicant for a flight instructor (aeroplane) rating grade 3 who holds or has held an overseas instructor authorisation is exempt from compliance with subparagraph 4.1 (a) [the formal training course], if he or she:

(a) has received not less than 50 hours of flight instructor training in aeroplanes, comprising:
(i) not less than 10 hours dual flight instruction from a Grade 1 flight instructor at a flying school that has the approval to conduct instructor training endorsed on its AOC; and
(ii) the remaining hours in dual flight instruction, or mutual practice with another trainee instructor, in the course of training for the issue of the overseas instructor authorisation; and
(b) has received at least 12 hours instruction in instructional principles and methods covering the contents of the syllabus specified in Appendix I;
(c) satisfies the requirements of subparagraphs 4.1 (d), (e) and (f). [Be recommended by a Chief Flying Instructor and pass a test]CAO 40.1.7 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.casa.gov.au%2Fdownload%2Forders%2Fcao40 %2F400107.pdf&ei=Kg0YT7z6CMSC8gPly82nCw&usg=AFQjCNFeVFpnJ7pHcI3LQHFuZ_hbGXXzQw)
ie. Find an Australian Flying School with Instructor training approval, and get them to put together a "conversion" course with a 12 hour ground school, and 10 hours flight training (assuming you have the rest of the 50 hours flying experience in the UK), and approve your application for test. If you have the experience, you can then upgrade to a higher Instructor's Rating.

- to which you then attach multi-engine training approval.
The holder of an instructor rating may give instruction in multi-engined aeroplanes only if he or she has:
(a) at least 50 hours as pilot in command on multi-engined aeroplanes, of which:
(i) not more than 25 hours was acting in command under supervision; and
(ii) at least 10 hours was as pilot in command on each type of aeroplane in which he or she wishes to instruct or any other type that CASA determines to be similar; and
(b) passed an examination conducted by CASA, an approved testing officer or an approved person; and
(c) holds an aircraft endorsement for the type of aeroplane.
CAO 40.1.7 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.casa.gov.au%2Fdownload%2Forders%2Fcao40 %2F400107.pdf&ei=Kg0YT7z6CMSC8gPly82nCw&usg=AFQjCNFeVFpnJ7pHcI3LQHFuZ_hbGXXzQw)

[AerodyManic]

From memory you need to have a minimum of 50 hours twin engine command experience before you may be assessed for multi engine training.

Obviously having an Aus CPL with instructor rating is also a must!!! Im not sure if this is a CASA requirement or a school one, but I believe that multi engine training approval is reserved to those who are grade 2 and above!! But as I say, might be a school rather than a CASA rule. Can someone verify??

[Checkboard]

The reference is in the previous post! :ugh:

9.1 A Grade 3 flight instructor may:

...

(bb) if he or she meets the requirements of paragraph 9.7, give flying training for the issue of an aircraft endorsement for a multi-engine aeroplane; and

[Tinstaafl]

It still surprises me how often the 'Gr.2 or higher' error gets mentioned w.r.t. ME training approval. I had this discussion with CASA FOI once. End of discussion once I grabbed my ANO....

[MakeItHappenCaptain]

It surprises me how often supposedly professional pilots couldn't be bothered reading the rules once in a while. (Generalisation. Not anyone in particular.):cool:

Basically,

Gr2's can send students first solos and can conduct AFR's and supervise NVFR training with required hours and permissions.

Gr1's get automatic CIR (if they have one) and FIR training (AOC permitting). They can supervise junior Gr3's too.

[mrclumsy]

50 multi command where 25 can be ICUS and 10 hrs on type ... That's from memory

[muffman]

In addition to the CAO listed above, which specifies the minimum requirements, also refer to CAAP 5.23-1(1) appendix C for the CASA advised training for multi engine instructors.

http://www.casa.gov.au/wcmswr/_assets/main/download/caaps/ops/5_23_1c.pdf

[MakeItHappenCaptain]

Quote:
Originally Posted by CAO 40.1.7 para 9.7
The holder of an instructor rating may give instruction in multi-engined aeroplanes only if he or she has:
(a) at least 50 hours as pilot in command on multi-engined aeroplanes, of which:
(i) not more than 25 hours was acting in command under supervision; and
(ii) at least 10 hours was as pilot in command on each type of aeroplane in which he or she wishes to instruct or any other type that CASA determines to be similar; and
(b) passed an examination conducted by CASA, an approved testing officer or an approved person; and
(c) holds an aircraft endorsement for the type of aeroplane.
:rolleyes: