WannaBeBiggles
4th Jan 2012, 21:43
Hi all
this has come up every now and then in various threads and it appears that people feel quite strongly about the issue of pilots getting bonded by their employers.
I think it's fair to say that bonds are here to stay, whether it be due operators managing expenditure / controlling staff turnover or just plain money grabbing.
This thread is not meant to ask the question "are bonds good / bad", as this would seem a rather frugal exercise as some people feel rather strongly about it one way or another, especially when bonds were never an issue in the past, or at least, not as commonplace as they are now.
So the question is, what is reasonable when it comes to bonding pilots? Money, period of bond, terms of repayment etc
Below are some (real) examples of what I've heard people getting bonded for, just to add some discussion points.
Turbine endorsement
Type rating/endorsement (C208, C400, B200, B1900 etc)
Instructor rating
MECIR
50 hours ICUS in a float plane (not *quite* P2F and probably needs its own category as floats is almost an industry in of its self)
Initial Twin &/or Twin ICUS
C200 series training
Initial Float / Ag / Low Level endorsements/ratings
Airliner type rating (B737, A320, Dash8 etc)
I know that some of you will agree on some of the above but disagree on others (such as C200 series time for instance, or the ICUS items), but where do you draw the line?
On top of this, some operators also seem to do an "in-kind" approach where they will train a pilot up while the pilot serves another role, such as hangar rat, baggage handler, catch and dispatch, office person etc
Some employers will pay, others won't while the pilot does the other duties and gets trained.
Hopefully this will spark some interesting discussions as I've tried to come up with as many variances as I've been able to think of, but please, don't start a flame war, keep the conversation as intelligent as possible and respect other peoples experiences and don't take a differing opinion as a personal attack.
this has come up every now and then in various threads and it appears that people feel quite strongly about the issue of pilots getting bonded by their employers.
I think it's fair to say that bonds are here to stay, whether it be due operators managing expenditure / controlling staff turnover or just plain money grabbing.
This thread is not meant to ask the question "are bonds good / bad", as this would seem a rather frugal exercise as some people feel rather strongly about it one way or another, especially when bonds were never an issue in the past, or at least, not as commonplace as they are now.
So the question is, what is reasonable when it comes to bonding pilots? Money, period of bond, terms of repayment etc
Below are some (real) examples of what I've heard people getting bonded for, just to add some discussion points.
Turbine endorsement
Type rating/endorsement (C208, C400, B200, B1900 etc)
Instructor rating
MECIR
50 hours ICUS in a float plane (not *quite* P2F and probably needs its own category as floats is almost an industry in of its self)
Initial Twin &/or Twin ICUS
C200 series training
Initial Float / Ag / Low Level endorsements/ratings
Airliner type rating (B737, A320, Dash8 etc)
I know that some of you will agree on some of the above but disagree on others (such as C200 series time for instance, or the ICUS items), but where do you draw the line?
On top of this, some operators also seem to do an "in-kind" approach where they will train a pilot up while the pilot serves another role, such as hangar rat, baggage handler, catch and dispatch, office person etc
Some employers will pay, others won't while the pilot does the other duties and gets trained.
Hopefully this will spark some interesting discussions as I've tried to come up with as many variances as I've been able to think of, but please, don't start a flame war, keep the conversation as intelligent as possible and respect other peoples experiences and don't take a differing opinion as a personal attack.