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Up-into-the-air
1st Jan 2012, 23:12
Is this financial blackmail, Personal blackmail or simply business blackmail??

How many actions by casa are on an AOC or MA are just "economic" and not related to safety matters and could be properly dealt with on a discussion basis??

This is particularly in the case of Central Maintenance and casa [Civil Aviation Safety Authority v Central Aviation Pty Ltd (corrigendum 9 February 2009) [2009] FCA 49 (6 February 2009) (http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/FCA/2009/49.html) ]

This resulted in a set of conditions, which effectively changed the relationship of Central’s ownership and business workings as a condition to allowing the maintenance authority to continue.

These conditions were set out by the Tribunal as follows, [when casa disallowed the owner to be the "LAME"]:

1. Central Aviation must employment on a full-time basis a licensed aircraft maintenance engineer (the LAME) acceptable to CASA;

2. The LAME must supervise all maintenance activities and conduct all certifications for maintenance as required by and in accordance with Schedule 6 to the CAR;

3. The LAME may organise another appropriately qualified and licensed engineer (other than the first applicant), who is listed in the Register of Appointed Persons in Central Aviation’s Procedures Manual: To supervise and certify all maintenance carried out by Central Aviation during any periods when the LAME is absent due to sickness, leave or personal commitments;

4. Central Aviation must employ an appropriately qualified, independent auditor (the Auditor) acceptable to CASA;

5. The Auditor must conduct comprehensive quality and safety systems audits on a 6 monthly schedule and provide a report to Central Aviation within two weeks of the completion of each audit;

6. Central Aviation must cause a copy of each audit report to be provided to CASA (Sydney Region Office) concurrently with the provision of the report to Central Aviation; and

7. Central Aviation must employ a technical records clerk to maintain the maintenance data necessary for all operation.

Full reference is at Federal Court: Civil Aviation Safety Authority v Central Aviation Pty Ltd (corrigendum 9 February 2009) [2009... Civil Aviation Safety Authority v Central Aviation Pty Ltd (corrigendum 9 February 2009) [2009] FCA 49 (6 February 2009) (http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/FCA/2009/49.html?stem=0&synonyms)...
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Horatio Leafblower
2nd Jan 2012, 00:14
The existing management team (whoever that may be) is obviously not doing an acceptable job.

CASA cannot be there to catch every mistake, shortcut or breach for any operator or CofA holder.

The onus is shifting onto industry to maintain its own QA processes in the belief (however correct or mistaken it may be) that a company that identifies its own shortfalls and takes action to prevent them will be safer than one that simply carries on covering things up, fat/dumb/happy until CASA turn up again.

The same approach is being applied to all sectors of the industry - You can try and fight it, but you will never win. :hmm:

...and if you can't beat 'em...

Up-into-the-air
2nd Jan 2012, 01:31
The ultimate prescriptive control of CP's, AOC holders and MA holders, does not necessarily lead to good safety outcomes, nor to positive co-operation by all participants. This does not include the "beating up" of participants by the regulator.

A read of previous documents says:

Voluntary reporting of relevant safety information is a vital process which ensures airlines, regulators and manufacturers become aware of maintenance and operational issues and is an essential part of the process that has delivered, and continues to provide, improvements in aviation safety.
That view, about the importance and effectiveness of voluntary disclosure programs, has been recognized in other jurisdictions and, in particular in a 2 September 2008 report to the US Secretary of Transportation “Managing Risks in Civil Aviation: a Review of the FAA’s Approach to safety ”.
The proposition that it is essential to protect aviation related safety information from inappropriate use has been recognized as fundamentally important by the Council of the International Civil Aviation Organization (“ICAO”).
On 3 March 2006 ICAO adopted amendments to Attachment E to Annexure 13 to the Convention on International aviation safety. (Australia is a signatory to the Chicago Convention on International aviation safety.. Section 3A (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ana1920148/s3a.html) of the Air Navigation Act 1920 (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ana1920148/) approves the ratification of the convention. CASA is required, by section 11 (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/caa1988154/s11.html) of the Civil Aviation Act, to perform its functions consistent with Australia’s obligations under the Convention.)
The Convention amendments are intended to prevent the inappropriate use of information collected solely for the purpose of improving aviation safety. The attachment itself is aimed at assisting participating states to enact “national laws and regulations to protect information gathered from safety data collection and processing systems ..., while allowing for the proper administration of justice.”
The specific considerations expressed in the attachment are that safety information should not be used in a way different from the purpose for which it was collected.
Safety information should qualify for protection from inappropriate use according to specified conditions. Those conditions include, in particular, a stipulation that disclosure of the information would inhibit the continued availability of aviation safety information.

Source: ATA asta and Anor and Civil Safety Authority [2010] AATA 499 (6 July 2010)

LeadSled
2nd Jan 2012, 04:00
Folks,
I don't believe this is a case of CASA exercising "economic" management of the industry. This case is quite well known at YSBK, and in similar cases, similar conditions have been imposed.

Having said that, I am of the view that CASA ( or probably more correctly, some individual employees of CASA) exercise a level of defacto economic control, despite the Act clearly prohibiting CASA from making decisions on other than safety grounds.

Predecessors of CASA have had power to regulate the commercial activities of the aviation sector, old habits die hard.

Then, of course, there are always a steady flow of allegations of what is "favoritism", but sometimes probably bordering on low level corruption, where some operators (regarded by their peers as being rather spotty operators) seem to have a dream run, while their competitors are in never ending trouble.

The matters of which I am aware in detail, that turned out to be justified complaints, were very smartly resolved by the then CASA CEO, particularly Bruce Byron. In each case, the problems came about by the actions of individual FOIs or AWIs, and previous employers or "friends".

Tootle pip!!

halfmanhalfbiscuit
2nd Jan 2012, 04:44
Then, of course, there are always a steady flow of allegations of what is "favoritism", but sometimes probably bordering on low level corruption, where some operators (regarded by their peers as being rather spotty operators) seem to have a dream run, while their competitors are in never ending trouble.

Is this a failing of CASA where different inspectors or offices have differing views on an individual or operator for example. In previous threads numerous people have stated we do not have clear rules but 'opinions' open to interpretation. Clearer regulations and better training of staff would result in a more consistent approach. The FAA also has a rule to stop individuals dealing with previous employers (or other conflicts) for minimum of 2 years.

LeadSled
2nd Jan 2012, 05:52
Halfman---
And the FAA has very clearly laid down standards for all its inspectors, the various handbooks are available on-line, and FAA do a more than reasonable job in training and standardizing inspectors.n

Just as important, FAA have quite high minimum experience requirements for employment as either a (their equivalent of) FOI or AWI.

Most of the "new" CASA inspectors I have recently come across are not within a bulls roar of the minimum FAA standards, quite apart from the lack of training and standardization ---- of which FAA made a point in its CASA audit some little time ago.

Tootle pip!!

Frank Arouet
2nd Jan 2012, 06:14
There are rival operators until someone's CASA mate comes along and all bets are off. "CRONYISM" is the word that keeps coming to mind.

gobbledock
2nd Jan 2012, 11:13
Biscuit, there is a good reason why the rules aren't clear. There is a good reason 'opinions', 'personal interpretation', and 'intent' are so prevalent with CASA. The current structure of Australian aviation is a hybrid monster, it is a lawyers creation that has been created with the intent to protect the regulator and government at any cost and prevent them being found to be wrong on any matter. It is a game of stacking all the cards in their favor, they cannot lose.

CASA is not about safety or regulations, it is about individuals self gain, what THEY can get out of the system at any cost. Passenger safety is the last thing on their minds. It is about personal vandettas, payback, persecution and punishment of anybody who dare prove that they are in the wrong or incorrect on a matter. In fact they are a government sanctioned and accepted public service entity granted full power to quite simply do whatever they wish, whether it be right or wrong, fair or unfair, justifiable or unjustifiable, with no accountability to anyone. Here lies the heart of the problem.

Only two things will fix this problem. Some miracle stemming from the senate inquiry or a smoking hole. That is the point we are at. It can be avoided. To use a CASA analogy you need to be proactive not reactive. Well the voices have been shouting out loud from within industry for some time now - FIX THE PROBLEM. CASA has to go. Sadly that would take a proactive approach and the government prefers the reactive approach, so we sit back and await the 'coming day of change', the day that will make everybody from bureaucrat to critic sit up and listen, yep a hole full of smoldering torso's.

TICK TOCK TICK TOCK

Kharon
2nd Jan 2012, 20:30
Ah, but there is method in the madness; now we see there is a good reason for the P. P. Performance. We are being protected from over spending on the bonus system. You can see it; if they turned in a stellar performance we simply could not afford to keep the little darlings. Yup, it all makes sense now.

Performance bonus.
2010 - $458,704.
2011- $643,516.
Source – Willyleaks;
CASA 2012 Bonus Points system.

Talk believable bollocks at the Senate - 200. (Conditions apply).
Develop a long delay tactic for regulatory reform. - 199.
Develop a short delay tactic for regulatory reform. = 198.
Defer ICAO downgrade - 197. (Conditions apply).
Delay FAA downgrade - 197. (Conditions apply).
Invent new money wasting project - 196. (Refer Spin rules)
Totally Wreck a business - 195. (Variable scale).
Partially destroy a business - 194.

N.B. Additional points for each Pilot of LAME crucifixion. Additional points may be awarded on a variable scale against the perceived qualities of your efforts against the industry. Spin must be supported by policy.

Pork crackling and bacon sambo's anyone. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif


CASA Integrity Poll (http://www.kwiksurveys.com?s=OCLNNH_eda4d7e5)

Up-into-the-air
2nd Jan 2012, 23:34
From the casa 2009 - 2010 - 2011 annual report [in millions]:

Balance Sheet items from casa's annual report:

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8852/casadata200920102011c.png
and casa sought a further $89 million from the Government :ugh:

In raw terms, some $189,173 per employee.


And as for ATSB, who are responsible for investigations of life's problems, have a budget as follows::=

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5139/basidata20102011.png

Up-into-the-air
3rd Jan 2012, 20:58
SUGGESTION 1 for a positive change to go forward in 2012.

The US - FAA regs provide for a seperation of employment by a period of two years in FAA employees who seek work in the private sector, then have dealings on the part of an employer or in a contractural sense with the FAA.

This makes sense, as it would go a long way towards dealing with preferential treatment as already seen in Australia in operators having AOC's granted or preference shown to AOC holders or applicants in other matters by casa.

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The FAR [119.73] is as follows:

§ 119.73 Employment of former FAA employees.

(a) Except as specified in paragraph (c) of this section, no certificate holder conducting operations under part 121 or 135 of this chapter may knowingly employ or make a contractual arrangement which permits an individual to act as an agent or representative of the certificate holder in any matter before the Federal Aviation Administration if the individual, in the preceding 2 years—

(1) Served as, or was directly responsible for the oversight of, a Flight Standards Service aviation safety inspector; and

(2) Had direct responsibility to inspect, or oversee the inspection of, the operations of the certificate holder.

(b) For the purpose of this section, an individual shall be considered to be acting as an agent or representative of a certificate holder in a matter before the agency if the individual makes any written or oral communication on behalf of the certificate holder to the agency (or any of its officers or employees) in connection with a particular matter, whether or not involving a specific party and without regard to whether the individual has participated in, or had responsibility for, the particular matter while serving as a Flight Standards Service aviation safety inspector.

(c) The provisions of this section do not prohibit a certificate holder from knowingly employing or making a contractual arrangement which permits an individual to act as an agent or representative of the certificate holder in any matter before the Federal Aviation Administration if the individual was employed by the certificate holder before October 21, 2011.

[Doc. No. FAA–2008–1154, 76 FR 52235, Aug. 22, 2011]

T28D
3rd Jan 2012, 22:24
This will never see the light of day here, too many snouts in the trough, post employment contracting is a CASA way of boosting superannuation for its loyal jackboot group.

halfmanhalfbiscuit
3rd Jan 2012, 23:21
119.73 wasn't mentioned in the Senate Inquiry despite such a situation being discussed. One person had two hats on during questioning, previous role as CASA manager of office over sighting the airline he joined.

It may not be on the agenda here although bet it is on the agenda for FAA audits of overseas NAA's.

roulette
3rd Jan 2012, 23:58
Is CASA supposed to make a profit? A government regulatory authority? Why bother reporting EBIT? :confused:

Needless to say, this is not a good measure of dollars spent vs safety outcomes! :rolleyes:

gobbledock
4th Jan 2012, 01:54
Biscuit, Good pick-up. Glad to see somebody else apart from myself noticed that joke.
119.73 wasn't mentioned in the Senate Inquiry despite such a situation being discussed. One person had two hats on during questioning, previous role as CASA manager of office over sighting the airline he joined. Lets call this airline person Mr X. Now, when employed at CASA Mr X worked alongside another CASA colleague whom we will call MR Y. Now after Mr X leaves and goes to work for the airline in question Mr Y resigns from CASA for other reasons. Not long afterwards Mr Y returns to CASA as a 'consultant' of course. Mr Y then goes and participates on the AOC audit of the airline in question, where Mr X is of course working!!
And no, they were not miles apart during the audit, they were very close together as previously at CASA both Mr X and Mr Y worked hand in hand.

Nothing unusual in that. One chump in Brisbane was also allowed to take LWAO from CASA for several months and go and set up an AOC holders SMS, then return to CASA. He also had building access at CASA during that time frame and used to come in and check his emails etc!! No conflict of interest in that one!
I am still waiting for all the dirty laundry to be aired as to why the HR Manager left! I know why, but waiting for the dirt to slide out from under the carpet...It will gradually. Senior management are a joke.

Roulette,
Is CASA supposed to make a profit? A government regulatory authority? Why bother reporting EBIT? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/confused.gif No, they cannot earn a profit, that is a no no. The reason for EBIT is the usual government bull**** - to produce financial facts to show the 'taxpayer' that there hard earned money is being used in a 'clear, transparent, robust, effective and correct manner', which is a crock of **** when you look at how much they are wasting on luicrous salaries, international buiness travel, jollies, folly, bonuses, failed projects, failed reg reform, and unnecessary legal actions against innocent people.

Kharon
4th Jan 2012, 05:05
“Through me you pass into the city of woe:
Through me you pass into eternal pain:
Through me among the people lost for aye.
Justice the founder of my fabric moved:
To rear me was the task of Power divine,
Supremest Wisdom, and primeval Love.
Before me things create were none, save things
Eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.”

(Dante Alighieri; 1265-1321).

Seems very appropriate to me.

Translation - You're stuffed mate, whichever way you wriggle.

Kharon
5th Jan 2012, 12:35
I know it's all numbers, but should a large profit be made in an environment where industry makes very little profit (ask Alan he'll tell ya).

Never was so much given, by so many for the benefit of so few.

My sincere apologies to Winny and his Black Dog. :ugh:

Dangly Bits
5th Jan 2012, 13:14
Gobbledock, what is LWAO?

I'm assuming it is some sort of Leave if it was for several months.

DB

gobbledock
5th Jan 2012, 20:44
Dangler, basically it is leave without pay while still employed at Fort Fumble. It was for approximately 3 months.
At the time this occurred it was agreed upon and approved because a very senior person was good mates with a very senior person at the Operator in question.:=:=

Dangly Bits
6th Jan 2012, 00:09
Thanks Gobbledock.
Sounds a bit like the FOI in the same office selling Synthetic Trainers to the schools he oversights! Conflict of interest means nothing to some.
DB

Kharon
7th Jan 2012, 08:12
Wasn't this the site that was advertising no confidence in CASA?

I wonder http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/confused.gif. Which one does he mean ??. I mean there are so very many options to choose from. Here are but two.

CASA integrity survey. (http://www.kwiksurveys.com/?s=OCLNNH_eda4d7e5)

No confidence in CASA. (http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/no-confidence-in-casa.html)

Puzzled now. (Not being too bright at all). Why does he wonder how all this occurred ?; after all the Senate swallowed the last lot of pony pooh, didn't they ??. Huh, they did, yes, yes ??.

They did, it's all cool boys, so back to the trough.

High Ho – away we go. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif

Up-into-the-air
14th Jan 2012, 06:24
Heard an interesting one this week - casa was asked for a quote to put a Fokker jet on an existing AOC

Estimate ???

Over $1,000,000

Reasonable??????

gobbledock
14th Jan 2012, 07:46
Oink oink.
That will help them cover the costs of executive bonuses for 2012 plus it will provide them with additional trough money for trips to Montreal and other select destinations. Perhaps it will even cover anger management course costs for the Screaming Skull and maybe pay for the Voodoo Lawyer to gain another doctorate in jungle voodoo or some other folly unrelated to aviation?

halfmanhalfbiscuit
14th Jan 2012, 08:53
Over $1,000,000

Charge out rate $200 per hour. Would equate to 5000 hours. Now assume each employee does 2000 hrs per year this would mean 2.5 ppl full time for a year or 10 for 3 months!!!!!

Casa are required to give a detailed and costed quote. Existing AOC and Fokker would be automatically accepted into oz if not already.

One company going through a legal name change was being tret as a brand new applicant.

This estimate can't be right surely perhaps just a rumour.

Up-into-the-air
28th Nov 2012, 02:02
I finally had time to look at the 2012 casa annual report. The pilot numbersw bear some careful note - still falling, when you consider the active medicals.

For your information, I include the last few years:

http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r623/soilmaster/uploads%20to%20pprune/casadataandpilotnumbers-1.jpg

Just a mere 52% drop in active medicals and a 39% variance in casa reported Flight authorisations vs. actual active medicals - More official spin??

peuce
28th Nov 2012, 03:27
What's this "....acceptable to CASA" stuff.

Aren't you either licensed/qualified to perform a duty ... or not ? :confused:

Next you'll see ... "An aircraft may be flown by an appropriately qualified pilot (acceptable to CASA)" :suspect:

Valley of Hinnom
28th Nov 2012, 04:30
Just a mere 52% drop in active medicals and a 39% variance in casa reported Flight authorisations vs. actual active medicals - More official spin?? More spin than a Texas twister! Work those numbers boys!

What's this "....acceptable to CASA" stuff.
That is correct peuce. "Acceptable" is 'the new black'. They prefer 'acceptable' over 'approved' as 'acceptable' removes accountability from them.:=
Oh those sneaky boys, sneaky sneaky boys!

thorn bird
28th Nov 2012, 05:32
Peuce what makes you think that's not the way it is already?

QFF
28th Nov 2012, 06:08
I find it instructive to note that, in Director's review, under the heading Strong Safety Oversight, the first significant safety outcome is not less accidents or providing more safety education but the grounding of Tiger Airways, followed soon after by Alligator.

Which seems to confirm (to me, anyway) that their idea of absolute safety is when zero aircraft are in the air.

I used to think safety was common sense (look left and right before crossing the road, don't stick your fingers into the toaster/electrical socket etc.) but now we need rules with associated penalties (!) to keep flyers and passengers "safe".

The way things are going, and at the rate of attrition in licences/medicals, we might very well achieve absolute safety sooner rather than later.

Captain Dart
28th Nov 2012, 06:20
'Empty Skies for All'.

Capt Casper
28th Nov 2012, 06:27
They won't be empty skies!!
Just empty of Australian owned & operated Aircraft.

601
28th Nov 2012, 12:26
One company going through a legal name change was being tret as a brand new applicant.

If the company has the same ABN, tell CASA to go jump. It is the same entity.

blackhand
29th Nov 2012, 02:52
If the company has the same ABN, tell CASA to go jump. It is the same entity. One would think so, but is not entirely correct.
Currently any variation on AOC is being gone through with fine tooth comb, well in my experience anyway. A simple change of personnel will cause a complete audit of your OPs Manual. Beware

Valley of Hinnom
29th Nov 2012, 04:21
Here is where millions of your hard earned dollars went in 2011/2012 boys!

The trough for 2012:

The number of non-executive directors of CASA included in these figures are shown below in the relevant remuneration bands.

Trough dwellers = 1 $30,000 to $59,999
Trough dwellers = 2 $60,000 to $89,999
Trough dwellers = 1 $90,000 to $119,999
Total number of non-executive directors of CASA 4 Total remuneration received or due and receivable by directors $322,069 $315,798.

Total expense recognised in relation to senior executive employment 2012 2011
Short-term employee benefits:
Salary (including annual leave taken) $4,364,291
Annual leave accrued $397,842
Performance bonus $581,835
Allowances $94,539
Total short-term employee benefits $5,438,507
Post-employment benefits:
Superannuation $903,166
Total post-employment benefits $903,166

Other long-term benefits:
Long-service leave $126,899
Total other long-term benefits $126,899
Termination benefits $273,199

Total $6,741,771 (up by almost $800 000)


For the year ended 30 June 2012
Note 13B: Average Annual Remuneration and Bonus paid for substantive
Senior Executives during the reporting period:

2012 Total remuneration (including part-time arrangements):
In each bracket the first figure is Salary, the second figure is bonus and the third figure is the total reaped (snorted)

Salary $150,000:
Trough dwellers =1, Salary $71,571 Super $11,213. TOTAL: $ 82,784

Salary $150,000 -$179,999
Trough dwellers =3, Salary $121,202 Super $27,384 Bonus $ 18,238 TOTAL: $166,824

Salary $180,000 –$209,999
Trough dwellers =3 Salary $155,716, Super $ 22,393 - Bonus $17,525 TOTAL: $195,634

Salary $210,000 –$239,999
Trough dwellers =5 Salary $178,067 Super $ 31,135 Bonus $15,996 TOTAL: $225,198

Salary $240,000 –$269,999
Trough dwellers =3 Salary $186,381 Super $41,801 - , Bonus $23,567 TOTAL: $251,749

Salary $270,000 –$299,999
Trough dwellers =3 Salary $209,951 Super $38,658 – Bonus $ 35,549 TOTAL: $284,158

Salary $330,000 –$359,999
Trough dwellers =1 Salary $218,971 Super 74,024, Bonus $ 41,138 TOTAL: $334,133

Salary $360,000 –$389,999
Trough dwellers =1 Salary $230,205 Super $ 89,724, Bonus $ 42,488 TOTAL: $362,417

$390,000 –$419,999
Trough dwellers =1 Salary $269,254, Super $ 92,805, Bonus $ 46,350 TOTAL: $ 408,409

Salary $420,000 –$449,999
Trough dwellers =1 Salary$ 324,635 Super $ 50,227, Bonus$ 46, TOTAL: $350 421,212

Salary $540,000 -$569,000
Trough dwellers =1 Salary $491,600 Super $ 50,000 TOTAL: $541 600

Not included are away allowances, business class fares, meetings, dinners, accommodation etc etc…….

But even more from the trough:
Total remuneration (including part-time arrangements):

Salary $150,000 to $179,999
Trough dwellers = 86
Salary $128,585 Super $30,236.06 Allowances $5.07 Bonus $2,174.79 TOTAL: $161,001.11

Salary $180,000 to $209,999
Trough dwellers = 29
Salary $149,321.59 Super $37,427.47 Allowances $16.57 Bonus $5,829.44 TOTAL: $192,595.07

Salary $210,000 to $239,999
Trough dwellers = 10
Salary $177,628.96 Super $40,228.11 Alowances$13.08 Bonus $6,321.17 TOTAL: $224,191.32

Salary $240,000 to $269,999
Trough dwellers = 3
Salary $196,273.81 Super $53,639.81 Bonus $6,396.60 TOTAL: $256,310.22


OINK OINK

601
29th Nov 2012, 04:52
Currently any variation on AOC

If the ACN is the same and there are no changes in Directors, staff, etc., a change of company name has nothing to do with the operation of an AOC.

A two line change to the OM (for Blogs read Smith) and a new Compliance Statement would all that is required.

I would like to see references to any Regulations that requires anything else.

By sticking ya head up, it could awake CASA and trigger an audit if one has not been done within the normal cycle.

Up-into-the-air
15th Mar 2013, 02:51
Someone has been looking at this issue as well:

http://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-aviation-questions/510172-cpl-license-holders.html#post7742750

peterc005
15th Mar 2013, 03:25
The medicals are a tricky figure to interpret, as overseas pilots would not renew medicals when they go back overseas.

That is, a surge in overseas trainee pilots would lead to an initial increase in medicals, followed by a drop as they leave the country on completion.

Anecdotal evidence, from a number of recent graduates and junior instructors, is that the industry is presently quite robust. Seems like any qualified instructor could pick up a job quite easily.

Old Akro
16th Mar 2013, 02:17
However, if (say) a PPL transferred to RAA, his (perpetual) PPL would continue to be counted in the license total, but he would no longer get medicals. I wonder if the decline in CASA medicals is mapping the rise of RAA?

Up-into-the-air
2nd Nov 2014, 22:00
The following comes from the 2014 annual report, which shows a major increase on a proportional basis of rejected medicals:

http://vocasupport.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/2014-medicals.jpg


The below shows an up to 350% increase in 2012 of "FAILS", which continues into 2014. Is this the PMO - Navarthe showing he is boss?? as it certainly is not a reflection of rising medical issues.

Further, there is a fall in issued medicals, no matter how reported of 29.5% between 2010 to 2014, some 7731 medicals.

Doubtless another thing to fix Mr. DAS [new] and with no spin Mr. Gobsome.

http://vocasupport.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/2014-medicals-B.jpg

Soteria
3rd Nov 2014, 01:45
UITA, I am sure they will blame the IOS/MAM's for those statistics - Silly pilots with declining personal health attributed to debauched lifestyles, a lack of Pilots exercising enough, not eating enough fruit and veg, or a declining number of aviators giving themselves regular barium enema's, things like that.....It's always our fault, didn't you know that?