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ScottyMB
29th Dec 2011, 20:26
Hi all,

This may have been discussed in the past, but as a new member to the forum, I do not know.

I've been pursuing a career as a pilot since as far as I can remember, preferably RAF. So far I've collected 50 flying hours and flying solo in four different single engined aircraft type. But we all know, thanks to the SDSR, jobs in the military are nearly non existent.

Therefore, I've been looking at applying to the CTC Wings Cadet Programme or to Oxford Aviation for some time, but the issue with money has been daunting...

Is there any chance I could get some information on a general pay scale for new pilots in the airline business? First Officers and Captains?

If I manage to find the 80K for training... how have you all come to//found paying the loans off? It seems like it would be a difficult and long task...

I'd rather hear it from you guys that are in the know, than scanning random sites on the internet!

Thanks

GearDownThreeGreen
29th Dec 2011, 20:40
Well, you can start by scanning this site :ok:

Narrow Runway
29th Dec 2011, 21:22
Firstly, if you're talking airlines, forget Captain pay. You'll need to do time as an FO first.

FO pay: Well, that probably varies between APPROXIMATELY £25,000 in a turboprop as a start salary, to £40,000 as a BA FO for starters.

Whatever way you look at it, the investment is massive and the risk even more so that you may never land a job.

Can you add up and talk sh1t? If so, get a job in the City and save your bonuses. Then, and only then, go do it.

Fate Hunter
30th Dec 2011, 22:05
The City is a bad idea. Don't do a job you hate to fund a job you love - you just won't have the time to fly either. Far better to find an alternate career you love to fund a passion, as it will show through in airline interviews if you have done something worthwhile with you life pre-flying.

Besides, the City does not pay the mega-bucks it did in the past - it won't fund your flying career if you have to fund the socialising required of a successful City employee if you want to be the one paid the big bonuses. It is circular.

Back to the OP's question:

Are you on the UAS or at university at the moment? Meaningful-paying alternate careers could require a degree, though not impossible without.

To the original question - ppjn.com has some guide to payscales

pudoc
30th Dec 2011, 22:41
Ever thought of modular?

http://www.pprune.org/professional-pilot-training-includes-ground-studies/403410-modular-much-cheaper-than-integrated-look.html

Integrated might help you get a job a bit quicker, but then you need to pay off bigger debt if you took out a loan. It may take you a year longer to get a job, but then you have far less debt.

Globally Challenged
30th Dec 2011, 22:51
A year longer you say?

http://www.pprune.org/interviews-jobs-sponsorship/472335-2011-modular-did-you-get-job.html

pudoc
30th Dec 2011, 23:14
I said that purely for arguments sake of possibly getting a job quicker with integrated vs modular and the relation to salary (getting money sooner) and debt (more to pay).

In reality, it can take anywhere from months to years to getting a job regardless of the method you take.

pudoc
31st Dec 2011, 00:42
That really does depend upon what your definition of "a job" actually is. If you mean a job as an airline first officer by virtue of a cadet programme with around 200 hours, then I fear you are deluding yourself.

No I meant any job that gives you money for flying. But as I said, the time scales I said where for arguments sake. Either route will _eventually_ get you flying airliners if that's what you want, IMO.

Halfwayback
31st Dec 2011, 11:15
ScottyMB

Welcome to PPRune Wannabees forum.

This site is fortunate in that there are many experienced commercial pilots who will help you get your foot on the first rung of the ladder; there are also a lot of sciolists (see the bottom of the page) who will push their own particular preferences.
This may have been discussed in the past, but as a new member to the forum, I do not know
However all the questions you ask have been asked and answered many times before - and quite recently! So I suggest that, in addition to the answers that have already been given, you spend a few hours reading through the 'stickies' above and use the Search function. You will find your answers and also learn a lot about the commercial aviation industry!

Good luck

HWB