View Full Version : Why do Atheist's celebrate Christma's ?


racedo
24th Dec 2011, 15:28
Could never figure that one out....................



DX Wombat
24th Dec 2011, 15:32
Hedging their bets?

handsfree
24th Dec 2011, 15:34
Drink is involved :E

G-CPTN
24th Dec 2011, 15:36
I believe that there is a pagan festival (of Yule?)
No doubt coincide with the winter solstice?

Yule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule)

Gertrude the Wombat
24th Dec 2011, 15:43
Because, like anyone else, they want the sun to come back.

Fortunately the sun isn't fussy and comes back regardless of which version of the festival any particular individual celebrates. It's being doing so since before religions were invented and will no doubt continue to do so after the last one has been forgotten.

Cacophonix
24th Dec 2011, 15:44
Let's not forget that Christmas really belongs to the Pagans...

Apparently, the season of good cheer did not start out as exclusively a Christian festival. According to Pagans, the early Christian church hijacked December 25 to celebrate the birth of Jesus because they saw that everyone was already having a good time and decided to take advantage of it.

BBC News | Pagan Christmas | Whose Christmas is it anyway? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/special_report/for_christmas/_new_year/pagan_christmas/37276.stm)


I thank the Pagans for Christmas... and despite being an agnostic I believe that Christmas should celebrate the best of the good and humanity in us all. I think that it is a good bet to hedge.

7w_VkkoOUE4

Caco

eastern wiseguy
24th Dec 2011, 15:45
I'm an atheist and IRISH...Like I need an excuse to drink and be merry?:p

ShyTorque
24th Dec 2011, 15:51
Why do Atheists celebrate Christmas ?
Could never figure that one out....................

Jesus Christ!

Notso Fantastic
24th Dec 2011, 15:56
Look it's near the winter solstice with minimal sunshine, crap weather and every totally depressed. It's a bright festival with lots of pretty lights everywhere and enforced jollity and dolled up wimmin- who couldn't like it (apart from the appalling music and silly religious emotion). I draw the line at going to church and have absolutely no religion, detest turkey and Christmas pudding, but it helps people cheer up and that's no bad thing! Religion is a total con, but it seems humans have a fundamental need to make up crap to believe in and take comfort from it, so I suppose it is good for them. It's just unfortunate whilst most religions celebrate peace and love, some have a fascination with death and regarding non-believers with disdain to be terminated at will. Well one actually.

rusty sparrow
24th Dec 2011, 16:05
In downtown chavtown today, getting last minute Xmas items - Salvation Army band playing carols against the Jehovah's Witnesses market stall facing them with a large poster saying 'AWAKE! The Truth About Chrismas' An interesting juxtaposition.

The JWs hate Xmas as a it's 'voice of Satan' with pagan origins.

:ugh:

green granite
24th Dec 2011, 16:24
Why do Atheists celebrate Christmas ?
Could never figure that one out............

Because without JC they wouldn't be Atheists :E

galaxy flyer
24th Dec 2011, 16:33
From what I've seen it is celebrated in Singapore and Dubai, not notably Christian hotbeds. I think for the same reason that I go to work--money.

GF

Storminnorm
24th Dec 2011, 16:41
Enjoy it anyhow!!! It makes a break and peeps all seem to
have a fairly good time. Even if they don't follow the Christian faith.

Worrals in the wilds
24th Dec 2011, 17:07
Hedging their bets? "This is very similar to the suggestion put forward by the Quirmian philosopher Ventre, who said, 'Possibly the gods exist, and possibly they do not. So why not believe in them in any case? If it's all true you'll go to a lovely place when you die, and if it isn't then you've lost nothing, right?'

When he died he woke up in a circle of gods holding nasty-looking sticks and one of them said, "We're going to show you what we think of Mr. Clever Dick in these parts...'" ~Terry Pratchett, Hogfather :}

eastern wiseguy
24th Dec 2011, 17:15
Because without JC they wouldn't be Atheists

Well not entirely true..there are many many "gods" (or "sons" thereof) that we don't believe in.

Christians disbelieve in one fewer.

No reason at all not to have a jolly time in the dark northern hemisphere....absolutely squat to do with bronze age shepherds though(at least in this house):)

Slasher
24th Dec 2011, 17:20
Its a real good excuse for a pissup.

Which reminds me - I'm being most uncongenial with me
guests and should return to them. Missus has just opened
the Blue Label drawer.

cavortingcheetah
24th Dec 2011, 17:25
Atheists celebrate Christmas so that they can party at Easter.

B Fraser
24th Dec 2011, 17:27
Huge log fire, twinkly tree, Aga cooked roast pork with sauerkraut, silly hats, leaving out a glass of port for Santa (i.e. yours truly), not going to work, nice ripe stilton, Pprune pals coming to visit, Brideshead Revisited on DVD and an uberbabe under the mistletoe


dunno why I bother :rolleyes:

MarcK
24th Dec 2011, 17:35
“What the hell are you getting so upset about?” he asked her bewilderedly in a tone of contrite amusement. “I thought you didn’t believe in God.”

“I don’t,” she sobbed, bursting violently into tears. “But the God I don’t believe in is a good God, a just God, a merciful God. He’s not the mean and stupid God you make Him out to be.” - Joseph Heller, Catch 22

hellsbrink
24th Dec 2011, 18:30
Why do Atheists celebrate Christmas ?

Because we don't get a bloody choice since everyone else has been brainwashed into this commercialised "holiday season" nonsense and that means we HAVE to participate so our partners don't get all grumpy at the thought of there being no "Christmas".


Bah humbug






(personally, I'd be happy to celebrate in a proper pagan manner by sacrificing a few chickens/goats/sheep and then having a proper orgy in a field somewhere, but "Christmas" is the tradition that *must* be followed. Bugger)

Trim Stab
24th Dec 2011, 19:13
I once worked with a Jewish colleague who flatly refused to fly on the Jewish sabbath, or indeed any other Jewish religious holiday. The entire airline rosta had to be tuned to meet his religious requirements (fair enough in these secular and tolerant times).

But when he was rostered to fly on xmas day, he was still paid the company xmas duty bonus!

Takan Inchovit
24th Dec 2011, 20:27
Why do Atheists celebrate Christmas ?

Um, how do you avoid it?

BombayDuck
24th Dec 2011, 20:39
Most of what Mr. Fraser said.

Also, some of us don't really mind being wished "Merry Christmas" and we would really wish you the same! None of this "Happy Secular Holidays" claptrap! :ok:

PAXboy
24th Dec 2011, 22:29
Almost every human tribe marks the turn of the seasons. Different tribes do it in different ways, in different places around the world.

I have just enjoyed a fine meal with my various members of my family, all of whom are more religious than me. Mother is agnostic and my brother/sis-in-law are hot gospellers. But we all shared a time to be together and exchange gifts of appreciation. T'row they will all go to church and I won't.

No conflict, no contradiction, just life and some humans rubbing along together.

In the past centuries, many atheists like me HAD to go to church and pretend to pray - otherwise someone might stick a sword in them. In many places of the world, many people still have to pretend to believe and go through the motions. Happily, some of us no longer have to lie about this. And the ministers/priests/rabbis usually say that you are not supposed to lie. :ok:

Captain Dart
25th Dec 2011, 01:15
Yes, it's a bit like those poor North Koreans having to be seen to cry in public.

Clare Prop
25th Dec 2011, 02:42
As has been said, because we have no choice, it is rammed down our throats. Nanny State even told us we should switch our mobile phones off today or risk stress or something. How about not maxing out the credit card instead.

I reckon Jesus would have far preferred that those obscene sums of money some people spend on food and drink and plastic crap go to charity, what a great lesson that would be for kids in Christian values; instead of greed and consumerism, how about they do some volunteering with the homeless or elderly or others who need a hand.

And that's from an atheist, we who according to some have "no morals or sense of right and wrong" . Have a good day however you chose to spend it..

Mostly Harmless
25th Dec 2011, 03:21
Oh your god!

Booze and swag. Booze and swag.

Besides, it's nice to see people behave for a bit and be social.

Slasher
25th Dec 2011, 03:44
If I was a God walking the streets I'd decree the following -

If you do not drink booze there is nothing wrong with a glass
of fine wine with good friends at the Chrissy dinner. I mean I
did guzzle the stuff at my last feed didn't I, and all me good
mates did the same.

Don't go spending beyond your means. If you can only afford
to get your kid a wooden fire truck, then don't get him a big
shiny metal one that costs ten times more. Hey I was just a
carpenter meself for chrissakes.

Spare a bit of a shit to that poor lonely old prick who's sittin'
under the park tree outside in the cold. If you don't want the
smelly bastard to sit at your table, wander over and give him
a doggie bag of some your turkey with a bit of gravy & peas.
It won't put a big dent in your leftovers.

Put all your damn brawls, fights, revenge vows, bitching and
moaning and constant slagging off to rest just for one fcuking
day. You can always resume tomorrow.

The above comes courtesy from yet another atheist of pagan
materialism.

Load Toad
25th Dec 2011, 08:50
I celebrate being with family & friends, having time off work & having chance to relax and have some quality, unrushed fun doing things I love.
I also remember it is Mid-Winter festival. Thus I'm thankful for the excess off good food & drink we have when others have none.

I also respect that believers in Christianity have this speciall time of year to celebrate the birth of the bloke they believe in.

Now if that's difficult to understand or someone begrudges atheists for celebrating too - well it seems like a rather unChristian attitude to have.

acbus1
25th Dec 2011, 08:50
Why do Atheists celebrate Christmas ?

I am and I don't! :cool:

All to do with following the other sheep, innit. Baa!

Rwy in Sight
25th Dec 2011, 09:06
More often than not, it is a good idea to celebrate, particularly when food and wine/beer is available.

Rwy in Sight

Checkboard
25th Dec 2011, 14:05
This is why I celebrate Christmas - I agree with both the politics AND sentiments of this song (and it happens to be my favourite Christmas tune :) ):

White Wine In The Sun by Tim Minchin - YouTube

Cacophonix
25th Dec 2011, 21:06
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Caco

barit1
25th Dec 2011, 22:04
For the capitalist who happens to be atheist, Christmas is a major economic celebration. :)

Keef
25th Dec 2011, 22:57
I like that one, Caco!
It doesn't work here though - I knew everyone at midnight and morning service. Part of living in a village, I suppose.

Basil
25th Dec 2011, 23:50
Cacophonix,
Within the human world we know
Such goings on could not be so,

Aye, right :rolleyes:

sea oxen
26th Dec 2011, 00:10
I am no great fan of Tim Minchin but it appears that all of my Australian friends (excluding relatives) are.

Having said that, I'd prefer this song to be played to me whilst I was having 5' of razor wire pulled through my urethra than listen to that Pogues song yet again even with Kate Fisher's swollen gusset buried in my nose.

SO

stuckgear
26th Dec 2011, 10:27
i wouldn't mid this kate fisher's gusset on my nose..

Kate Fisher picture 36542 (http://www.celebscentral.net/user/picture/36542/)

Worrals in the wilds
26th Dec 2011, 10:51
Like many of us :sad:, she's gotten a little rounder in recent years and much more conservative. Mind you that's according to Woman's Day, which shares more made up gossip than the average ten year old girl :hmm:...
Kate Fischer: Why I went into hiding (http://womansday.ninemsn.com.au/celebrityheadlines/7941108/kate-fisher-why-i-went-into-hiding)

KAG
26th Dec 2011, 11:21
Why do Atheists celebrate Christmas?


Why do Christians celebrate Halloween?

corsair
26th Dec 2011, 12:54
The great thing about being an atheist is that you don't have to answer to anyone, so if you celebrate Christmas or any other religious festival, or go to church or not or ignore it all. It doesn't matter.

It's all up to you. Have fun!

Loki
26th Dec 2011, 15:08
I always thought that Christianity was all about inclusiveness.....isn't everyone welcome to celebrate any Christain event? Mind you, Christmas isn't particularly a Christian affair, hijacking as it does, a far older festival.

bnt
26th Dec 2011, 18:18
Saw this today and thought it was quite apposite:

http://i.imgur.com/mfYNW.jpg

rgbrock1
27th Dec 2011, 15:41
As a Pantheist (google it if you don't already know what a Pantheist is) I celebrate Christmas for many reasons. for me, but not for the Mrs. and her family, Christmas is indeed based on natural things i.e., nature. To pay homage to nature is a natural part of Christmas i.e., decorating of a tree with lights so as to welcome in the time of year where the days start becoming longer and the period of darkness shortens.

Here is the landscape
Here is the sun
Here in the balance of the earth
Where is the god?
Has he fallen and abandoned us?

As I'm stalked by the shadow of death's hand
The fire in my heart is forged across the land

Here at the edge of this world
Here I gaze at a pantheon of oak, a citadel of stone
If this grand panorama before me is what you call God. . .
Then God is not dead

acbus1
27th Dec 2011, 15:48
I empathise with the celebration of more daylight. The only meaning of Xmas for me is that it's close to the shortest day and it only gets better from here.

...apart from the cr@<hidden> weather to come, until that one week we call 'summer', of course. :}