E175/E195 at London City Airport

[Lanc53]

According to the London City Airport Consultative Committee website

Embraer E170 and E190 aircraft can use city airport. I think I have seen them in BA colours. Does anyone know if the E175 and E195 could operate from there and are there any plans to use them?

Lanc 53

[vespasia]

Been operating from city for quite some time - see here:

BA CityFlyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BA_CityFlyer)

and here's a couple of pics I took earlier this year to prove it:ok:

http://vespasia.smugmug.com/Airplanes/London-City/BA-ERJ-G-LCYL/1210952759_sDrL2-L.jpg

http://vespasia.smugmug.com/Airplanes/London-City/BA-ERJ-G-LCYM/1210953315_NYv8f-L.jpg

HTH:)

[G-ARZG]

E-170, E-190 yes, but I recall that E-195 is too long for parking stands, so not allowed into LCY ?

[redED]

E175 = E170-200
E195 = E190-200

Could just be semantics. Good point about the E195 parking though. I know our new E175s are steep approach approved., don't think the E195s are though.

[vespasia]

Whoops, sorry!:O

Missed the distinction between E170/190 and 175/195 in the original post - not sure of the latter two types LCY capability

Sorry again:oh:

[dhc83driver]

Not sure about the 175 but the 195 can`t land at LCY as it hits the tail! (as well as the parking problem.)

[Lanc53]

Vespasia,
No problem, wrong aircraft but great pictures anyway.:ok:
I keep promising myself a trip down to the airport, might get there one day. Anygood vantage points?
Being in the in the City and along the river I often see the E-Jets. (can’t tell them apart)
They seem quite large as they fly over, so im not surprised if the latest ones are to big for LCY.
I hadn’t thought about the parking problems or tail strikes. I originally wondered if the runway was long enough and weights etc.
I haven’t flown from there my self, but was I was told by one passenger that they always want to stamp on the floor on landing, case they end up in the river.
thanks guys
Lanc 53

[WHBM]

The lengths of the E170 and the stretched E190 are 29.9m and 36.3m respectively.

Quite why Embraer also decided to offer mini-stretches of both types, the E175 which is 1.7m longer than the E170, and the E195 which is 2.4m longer than the E190, is not particularly apparent. This gives four fuselage size choices for a relatively small aircraft, which must be costly for both production and support rather than just having two. It is not as if there was some product advance, for all four were offered from an early stage in production, and remain in production.

[macuser]

I think the E195 is slightly longer than an A320

[JSCL]

E195 38.7m long
A320 37.6m long

Indeed it is. But the 318/319 are much shorter! Considering the E195 has ~50 less seats than a 320 - certainly interesting.

[macuser]

Embraer 2 + 2 across, Airbus 3 + 3

[Espada III]

Was at the front (row 3) of an E195 (Flybe) last night from CDG to MAN. Perfectly comfortable for short haul and seemed to have larger windows than other types.

[dhc83driver]

The BA E190`s are 190-SR but other standard models do operate into city. Lufthansa (cityline) do a Frankfurt service and Baboo used to with a standard 190. They do have more perf issues than a SR but are still able to operate a service on shorter routes. The SR`s are able to go to Malaga and Faro from LCY all year round.