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mourgo
22nd Nov 2011, 23:25
Ive noticed Runway 09 at Melb YMML has been used recently by landing aircraft. Can anyone elaborate on this runway as its hardly used?

Also why the slight turn to the right after take off from Sydneys runway 16L?

Keg
23rd Nov 2011, 00:48
Slight turn to the right off YSSY 16L? All SIDs have a left turn after take off. Unless weather is a factor, even the radar departure normally involves a left turn. Why the turn though? Given the close spacing parallels, both runways require turns away from the other runway.

09 in MEL isn't great for noise abatement and given the traffic flow into MEL probably isn't great for sequencing arrivals either. I've only ever seen it used with more than about 5 knots downwind on Rwy 27 and 34 isn't appropriate.

Jack Ranga
23rd Nov 2011, 00:56
Heaven forbid that RWY 09 was chosen coz it was into wind :}

john_tullamarine
23rd Nov 2011, 02:28
Coming in from ADL or PER, we used regularly get the option of direct onto 09. Saved a heap of time, especially if the duty runway were 27.

Slasher
23rd Nov 2011, 03:38
I'm with John Tulla - especially arriving in off the redeye from
PER. Only thing was the sun in our eyes during Summer on
extremely rare days when MEL was cloudless.

And what's up with this 09 noise abatement nonsense these
days? On 27 woke up every bugger from Epping in, and as I
recall on 09 you only crossed Organ Arse National Park which
only woke up squirrels and Ball Court drunks who didn't quite
make it home.

Haven't flown into MEL for yonks so probably all that area has
been developed since then.

Bit off topic but I used to like a left base for R34 when I was
with SQ - somehow I don't think MEL ATC ever quite got used
to a foreign bloody 747 who reported crossing Rockbank lion
park (which was on the VTC back then) and requested further
descent!

Keg
23rd Nov 2011, 04:03
Noise abatement for departures off 09.

hoss
23rd Nov 2011, 08:54
From memory all the controllers face the terminal direction in MEL. So to operate 09 regularly would be a pain in the arse looking over your shoulder all the time as well as NADP.

Wanderin_dave
23rd Nov 2011, 09:02
When was the last time we had an easterly in ML anyway?

waren9
23rd Nov 2011, 09:29
South Easterlies are not uncommon.