Hero Aviation Greece

[murad009pk]

I want to get myself enroll for zero to ATPL in that school but the problem is that they are asking for 8000 euros just to process an application.I just want to know if anyone got completed their training from there .
Last but not the least they will be charging 49000 euros for the above training with accommodation.

PILOTS SCHOOL FLIGHT ACADEMY (http://www.hero-aviation.com/)

[murad009pk]

but it is little costly as compared to hero aviation, can some one tell me is it a good flying school or it is a spam

[CaptainDimos]

If you don't need a visa to go to Greece you don't need to pay an advance..
There are hundreds of people applying to the European schools only to get a visa and not follow the class.
By the Greek law to get a visa as an aviation student between other documents at the embassy will ask you also the receipt of the payment and it must be 30% of the total cost.
The solution is to say that you are going for PPL which is only 4950 euro so the advance is 1500 euro.
:ugh:

[naaz]

I went through the same thoughts as anyone would when contemplating studies at a school they know little about especially when it is geographically distant from you.

You can take a gamble or you can do your research....I did a bit of both and found researching private companies, particulary in aviation is virtually impossible unless you find students (past/present) of the academy and ask them of their experience.

Ask for students contact information and speak to them and hear of their experience. If you have any doubts on the genuinity of hero's students then match their contact emails to social networks such as facebbook.

I can totally relate to you as I have been through this head banging experience myself trying to establish if the school is or isn't spam and how far they will take your money to benefit you therefore I have created this account to ensure you get some help with your decision based on the experience of somebody who is a student at this very school.

I am currently a female student of hero-aviation from abroad (NOT a greek national) and can speak to anyone who wishes to speak with me about my personal experience at this school to help you make your decision based on the merits of Hero-aviaition.

You can contact me via a private message through here before you part with your money and I promise to reply with my humble, but honest and unbiased thoughts of this school so you are content with your decision whether or not to study here.

[naaz]

Yes I am british but do no have any idea on any schools in ENGLAND as I am in greece and a student at hero!!!! Look at the title of the thread!:*

[naaz]

Hello again,

I've received emails regarding the existance of Hero aviation and can confirm it very much exists and is in the midst of moving to bigger & better premises much nearer to the airport.

And yes, they have english speaking instructors and in fact has one instructor who is from England so excel in the language. Another one of their instructors is spanish but with high level of english hence I have never found communication to be a barrier.

Hero is not a chain company certainly not part of Egnatia aviation thus I cannot comment on that school or any other.

As mentioned before I have never been to any other school hence I cannot speak on behalf of ANY other school be it Greece or UK. I am at HERO, though it remains to be seen for how long and whether I leave all smiles or tears and can only speak of my experiences at this school. I am in the process of creating my own blog detailing my review of the school to help others make an informatve decision whether they want to be part of this school. Once it s done I will post a link here and you can also access it when you input hero aviation in any search engine.

Good day :)

[naaz]

Marrikar, I have inboxed you the details you require.

I hope it is of use to you.

Regards

[danast84]

murad009pk I know Hero Aviation and the school is only licensed to offerPPL training. You can check the Greek CAA website for more info at: http://www.hcaa.gr/content/index.asp?tid=542&lang=2. Hero is an RF, that means that it cannot offer any training except PPL although it says it can offer everything. I considered going there myself beacuse the cost is so low but I asked around and everyone told me to stay away, the school is not reliable.

[kaptn]

Just be carfull with the crisis in greece, you may spend more money there as everything is expensive !

[Lothar]

They say they are, maybe the HCAA web is not updated

GR - FTO - 020 (http://www.hero-aviation.com/index.php/gr-fto-020)

[rayanair1]

hi how r u
hope u can advise me as i am intrested to the cheap 0 to ATPL PACKAGE WITH HERO and job guarantee and in case can you please tell me which is the best to go for 0 to ATPL
in waiting your reply have my best regards

[G-pilot]

sometimes you need to understand that some things are too good to be true!
there is no cheap pilot training program!
Hero does only PPL :sad: and i think have only one ac, no sim no multi engine no real ground school
if you want to be a pilot do it properly or not at all!!
you don't have to go to the most expensive schools but go to a good one to learn something.
for greece it's either

JetStream - Pilot Training (http://jetstream.gr/article/pilots_default_information)

http://www.globalaviation.gr

Egnatia Aviation - Training College (http://www.egnatia-aviation.aero)

[172510]

Paying a large sum of money upfront is a bankers job. A banker would not lend 8000 euros to that school without any collateral and without having gathered a large quantity of information.
If your credit is better that the school's one, which is likely if you're able to pay the full training, they should rather place a deposit with you to secure your training than the other way around.
If the school needs to get your money before they have incurred any cost, it probably means that their financial position is not at its best.
On a regular basis, flight schools get bankrupt and students loose their upfront payments.

[CaptainDimos]

Giving information like this can be a good reason to take you to the court for derogation.But of course you are not going to say who you are and how do you know what HERO AVIATION is, and how many airplanes they have etc...
You look very well informed for the other Greek Schools and the links you send.
Hero aviation is giving the best price and the best quality of training both groung and flight with 4 airplanes and more soon.
And of course is an FTO .
have a look at the link : GR - FTO - 020 (http://www.hero-aviation.com/index.php/our-facilities/19-sample-data-articles/company/97-fto-gr-020)

56 students from 23 different countries are studing today 19/12/12 and believe me they are all happy.
They are also the reason that we are able to offer the best price (not only in Greece)
If you have the gots let us know who you are..........

[portos8]

What an attitude! Already looking to take people to court after a Pprune statement.....this will be a post to follow!

This resembles a similar atmosphere that prevails in a thread about Ventum Air:
http://www.pprune.org/professional-pilot-training-includes-ground-studies/427928-ventum-air-merged.html

The Ventum Air owner basically posting as a student and again as owner, manipulating, threatening to take people to court. Scared students posting positive feedback initially, and once they have nothing to do with the FTO anymore they feel free to inform everyone about the toxic company culture and terrible training.
I am going to sit back and see how this HERO AVIATION story unfolds.....

[Shining]

It's defamation not derogation and keep your temper down. Threats to court is childish when you have no leg to stand on. This forum is for people to discuss schools and training. Many people know of the way you operate. People, if the offer looks too good to be true then as someone told me who went there it is exactly that. School maybe full with foreign students but they have 2 planes only. One is a show plane c172 never used by students and one is c150 which they use. No simulator, no multis nothing else. But here they are offering atpl which nobody has yet gained there. He offers an unfrozen atpl which any person with a brain will know is impossible for the price he quotes 48,000 euros. he fails to mention The students are not allowed to talk to anybody without consent and forced to say good off the school that is why captain dimos is so sure they will back him up referring us to his current students but not past on his website. Otherwise as many others they will loose the offer they thought was so good. And in a country they hardly know would you choose to be in that situation? After a while you will see that you do pay for your ticket that is supposed to be included, housing and all other extra fees. You end up paying hundred of euros for each flight hour. If you leave by choice or not you do not get a refund back. So telling people on your website to contact your students captain dimos why don't you give us links to the past students who left not happy and let us decide for ourselves if this is a fraud school as we think? Maybe you should change you proud attitude. It's not professional. But then I hear there is a lot of very unprofessional acts in your school! care to tell us off the numerous instructors and students who left without completion? Portos believe me this school is more toxic than ventum air. Here they bribe students with great offers they know they cannot really give then too late students realise months and years later they leave with no money, licence or even hours. I spoke to a couple students who studied here. I was shocked and registered to warn everybody. Be very careful before parting with your hard earned money to a the owner who can sell water to a duck! Ask for past students and instructors or contact me and I will refer you to a few.:ok:

[nuage-magic]

Hello,

I saw your comment about hero aviation and want more informations about this school, in fact, i choosed this school to start my PPL soon and i try to contact students to give me some feedbacks before to take my decision, thank you for your attention and your advices.

:ok:

[starz]

Hmmmm you from Dublin for english cannot be your first language "David". So I guess you speak Gaelic? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/embarass.gif
Does anyone else smell something "fishy" here?:rolleyes:

[Shining]

Clearly somebody who studies there forced into writing here or somebody who works at hero. I suppose ventum air are not the only messed up pilot school operating!

[Shining]

Onky difference is Hero FTO are known to target foreigners and women are abused there. Atleast two women left because of this reason. I am shock how this trick fto is still open. I suppose the foreigners are keeping it running. They easy tricked and don't mind how they get their lisense because the training at hero do not follow aviation rules. Remember hero, solos are a must not an option and safety pilots are forbidden by jaa! And students of hero you will regret training this way. It is cheating and only you will suffer later when you try to get atpl.

[Frank Sinatra 123]

First of all i would just like to say that i am not here to argue with anyone, especially the ignorant who just want to cause a commotion and refuse to open their eyes to see opportunities that pass by........... :ok:


Hi there
for anyone that is interested in Hero Aviation, I am currently a student undertaking the Zero to FrozenATPL course at Hero Aviation



In my honest unbiased opinion of the school,
i think that if you are a mature independent student who knows how to study correctly and wishes to obtain an ATPL at the minimum costs then you should seriously take this school into consideration,


Yes the school is not as big as Oxford aviation or CTC wings or the likes of such as schools who charge 100k to obtain a ATPL where they spoon feed you everything....... (because most students would be rich and young so they would need to pay for alot of guidance during the course).......but if your serious about aviation have a good mind and understanding of what is required in an ATPL and want to spend 32k euros then this is a good school





For everyone who is wondering why the cost of the course is so cheap, it is quite simple,
The cost of living in Greece is low compared to other places like the U.K......hence all accommodation during the training is provided...which i think is excellent for many reasons

The Greek civilian aviation authority examination fees are also cheap
14 JAA ATPL exams in U.K = £980
14 JAA ATPL exam in Greece = 70euros (this is the price for every school in Greece set by the authorities)

All other fees i.e landing takeoff parking are surprisingly so low they are negligible


And also the majority of other school all around the world rip you off and this business thrives in young individuals paying excess amounts of money to schools to become airline pilots and they make alot of profit, so when you see schools who charge so little.....just for a second think 30-40thousand euros isnt nothing.........but compared to rip offs like 60thousand it sounds like a bargain but in a matter of fact......the other schools are just ripping you off......so its upto you, if you want to be ripped off or not.....i certainly didn't and i dont regret it


But i must emphasis that for anyone who is going to spend 30-40thousand (or even 60 or even 100thousand euros) that you must know what your getting yourself into before hand, it is not a walk in the park, if you are mentally prepared and ready and dont need anyone behind your back telling you what to do and when to do it and how to do it, and you are a grown up and can think for yourself then school like this are perfect for you if you dont have 100k to spare.



I hope you all have a wonderful career in aviation

[keith williams]

BAAAAAAAAAAARRFFFFFF!

.......Ooops Sorry.

[portos8]

As Malta has proven last week, the Euro crisis is far from over in these corners of the continent. Beware, beware, beware!

[starz]

What is your name "frank"? :rolleyes:
And what has happened to "captain dimos"
Very protective of hero right?
And you refer to uk? hmmm
Stronger smell of fish!
Ventum Air lives on through hero! :D
P.S I think it will be very long time before hero can begin to even think to challenge schools like oxford or wings. Remember the cheaper the school the cheaper the tuition.

[starz]

By the way, looking through your post "frank", some of what you say don't quite make sense. I do not mean to be rude but you use words out of context such as the word "hence" and I have noticed, most words you use, are of previous poster of this forum (on hero aviation) page 1.
But we can tell you put a lot of thought in your post. :ok:

[experienced]

Frank is obviously Captain Dimos who is the founder of Hero Aviation.

Beware this school. They not professional whatsoever as you must have figured out by now.

If you heard rumours of this school. Believe it!

They specialise in gossip rather than aviation.

Your success here is dependant on how much they like you. In other words even a brain-dead person can obtain a licence here whilst a pilot with abilities may not.

THINK ABOUT IT!

[tailstrike1]

Just checked their pics gallery and wondered about the guy with 5 bars on the shoulders -airborne achilles or what ? strange indeed

[starz]

I think by now most of us have figured out what is going on with HERO school! It is rather sad that they have to play double roles to attract students not to mention how they put other flight schools & their students down to promote their own. Pitiful actually. Does anybody know if they are even legal? :confused:
I agree, it should definitely be investigated!

[david00billa]

I saw your replys on pprune.org against hero aviation academy. I also have some doubts regarding this institutes because these peoples are not replying properly. want to know more details about this school because i am planning to do my flight training there. So please guide me about it.

[starz]

Be careful! look at the reviews you have been warned! Hope you do not regret starting at this rubbish school if it is still running and robbing people! But if you are wanting a visa then this school is good for you like other foreign students who wants to stay in greece but it comes at a high cost so be prepared! Ask other international students who I believe are happy with their long visas! ;)

[roeloph]

Because the continuous bad weather in my country I decided to look for an opportunity to get my PPL-practice training in a country with reliable good weather to make the most for my licence needed practice hours within a couple of weeks, flying every day. Searching the internet for a European school that could offer me that everyday training I found the Hero aviation school in Kalamata, Greece. Also I found this forum with the thread about this school. I decided to look for myself to make up my mind, based on my own observations. After an e-mail exchange (always quick replies) with HERO, in which I could ask already many questions, and with all the negative messages in this thread in mind, I took a flight to Kalamata on June 24. I got a warm welcome, good quality accomodation, met the director, the executive P.A & P.R manager, many students and instructors, looked around in the school building, visited the student appartments (above the school), attended part of a theory lesson and had a great instruction flight with the head-instructor, mister Glynis (the man with the '5 bars' on his shoulder: actually he has 4, the fifth 'bar' is the name of the school), from the Mègara airfield near Athens (where from Monday to Friday most instruction flights take place). I could ask any question to any person and got all the answers I wanted without restrictions or fear. All the persons I met were real existing, hard working and studying people who always tried to find some time to meet me and talk with me. Of course my aim was limited: find out about the practice training for PPL-A. I am doing my theory exams in my own country, and most probably will get my licence here. Now back in my country with memories of a great week in Kalamata I must start the 'fight' with the authorities to split my training for the licence in a part here (the exams) and a part in Greece (flying!). In both countries there are problems about this construction, but my experience with Hero gives me a strong motivation to continue this path. No, I am not payed by HERO to write this positive evaluation, I am just honest about what I have seen and heard. So when you want to know about the school: ask them your questions and go and look for yourself if you can.

[starz]

Hello Roeloph. Nice to see you enjoyed your "trip to greece". Also nice to see how much you learnt in that short trip. (You even educated us to the stripes of the instructor!) Oh yes we all believe you are a "genuine student from Holland". No doubting that at all. Especially considering you have that only one post especially dedicated to Hero. I am sure you will get many questions from unsuspecting students who believe you exist and which you will answer "without restrictions or fear" in favour of your school. Nobody dispute that you are "not PAID (not payed) by HERO to write this REVIEW (not evaluation!) and we sure believe you are "honest" as you claim. Well done! But sadly too many reviews on this school and too many students studying there are talking and want their money back because they are not happy. So no Hero school, we base decisions on past experiences of students NOT the current ones FORCED into writing good about you and asking people to come visit your school? Well of course you will be nice BEFORE you take students money. Any muppet will be! The question is how nice are you when students have problems? Besides, wasn't this very school in trouble not so long ago with HCCA with the way students were acquiring licences? In fact I hear there are a couple of their very "hard working students" complaining they have been robbed! What you say to that? ;)

[roeloph]

Hey Starz! Roeloph is my real name, I really live in Holland, I really am not a student, instructor or director of Hero, I really am a member of a Dutch aviation club, I really paid the trip myself, I really was in Kalamata for one week and I really can produce all the evidence for these facts immediately. So that's all 'Starz', I am not interested in any fight with you on this forum. I wish you much luck and happiness in your life, and if you fly: many happy landings.

[starz]

Whatever you say "Roeloph". But out of interest, what proof do you have? Not that I do not believe you. Just wondering.

[dave13]

Well, you know a school when you hear them talk with such spite about past students!

I won't let my son or especially daughter to go to a place like Hero if they will be spoken of so degradingly as Hero Academy describes some of the students!

Is Hero actually lisensed? Sounds like a bunch of hating individuals who owns an aircraft and probably operating a school illegally???

Any how I need a school for my child in greece we've moving end of september.

Does anybody know much about the new Olympus Academy? http://www.olympusacademy.gr/ obviously no way as cheap as Hero but looks promising.

[starz]

BANG ON DAVE13!
Avoid hero but other schools are not half as bad
Don't know much about Olympus
Anybody?

[bojauz]

Hi I was studying at that school but everything went bad for me now I'm trying to get my money back but Dimos owner of the school refusing give me my money back I need help. Please avoid this school don't end up like me

[bojauz]

Hi have you been into that school I'm having problems getting m6 money back.

[Air Engineer]

AVOID THIS SCHOOL AT AL COST! Dont say that you have not be warned.
Whoever comes here and pretend that the school is good is either working for HERO or got paid. They let their modular students start their ATPL groundschool without obtaining their PPL first. This goes against the rules laid out in PART FCL. which clearly states to obtain PPL before you can officially start with the ATPL groundschool. They dont have airplanes so they tell you to do the theoretical stuff first. HAPPY waiting for your day to start actual flying!! Plus for every flying lesson you need to drive 3 hours each way to megara airport!!! Good luck waisting your time on the road! If you will get a chance to fly out of Kalamata airport you ll need a so called approval and this can take a VERY long time so there you are again waisting time and waiting. They also use this to delay your actual flying because again no aircraft availability! Kalamata airport is ONLY available in the weekends for civilians use.
Instructors are very low experienced and so afraid of the management. Again i dont blame them as they need to build up their hours.

Do you want to go for a cheap course then go ahead!! You are warned by several folks here on the forum.

[turbopropulsion]

UPDATE -

Hero's website has been revamped totally. They've taken the approach of highlighting potential tricks other FTOs use to trick students.

They now incorporate a 'pay as you go' payment scheme and actually give lots of advice on how to spot a shady FTO.

They make numerous references to being EASA/JAA certified also.

This leads to me two conclusions, either they've totally cleaned up their act and adopted new principles or it's an even bigger sham.

Any thoughts?

[mad_jock]

They obviously have their target set on the Indian, arab and Russian markets.

The Europeans must be a bit to smart for them these days.

[magicmick]

There are 2 ways to make yourself look good:

1. Dedicate the expense, time and effort to actually be good.

2. Make the opposition look bad so that you appear to be good in comparison.

Method 2 is a lot easier than method 1 and seems to be the method that they have chosen.

[starz]

Yes mad jock you are totally right. Their job is to target Arabs and other easterners as they don't know any better. Europeans are much more intelligent and spots fraud from far away or atleast leaves from a place they know is shoddy.
Therefore hero doesn't have much choice. They have to target the ones easier to trick.
But since the son of HCCA Athina Marini is at hero, the owner of hero has formed ties with HCCA and that's why still exists despite all the fraud they committing.
HCCA is the umbrella for hero.

[turbopropulsion]

That's quite a statement there. Do you have any proof of that?

[starz]

What evidence would you need? Go to hero and you will see a boy who is the son of A Marini.
It is an actual fact. Dimos is the owner of the school and he made sure his ass is covered. Well at least within Greece.

[skymasterone]

warning to everyone wants to study for a pilot's


Hero Aviation is the worst flight school in the world can not name it flight academy.
i have heard a lot of stories about it and i have contacted a lot of students there to know the true about Hero aviation and i have found that its the worst flight school in the world and the owner is crooked person not correct person ,he offer cheap price to give only some hours for PPL then he stop the training for students and create problems with them to force them to leave the school without finish them training and he never give back money to anyone who had forced to leave the school .
around 8 or 9 people left Hero aviation and went to other schools to can finish them training and none of them got even 1 euro back from them money as the owner is not correct person and he never give money back for anyone .
Hero aviation has only 2 very old airplanes in very bad condition working one day and stop for week
they have only cessna 150 and 172 nothing else , don't believe what you see on site of Hero aviation , airplanes , students , apartments ,everything there is fake .
the owner is perfect lier , working with fake papers and licenses
no one has graduated from HERO AVIATION till now and will never be even one person graduate from there
stay away from Hero aviation in Greece and will be better if you stay away from GREECE ,for sure there is good schools in Greece but maybe 1 or 2 max
don't try to get your rights in Greece as HCAA in Greece will never suport students there will take the side of school as they are Greek like them ,i heard that from many students got problems with schools in Greece and didn't get them rights there but the big numbers of students was from Hero Aviation and they tell Hero aviation pay money for some people in HCAA to cover Hero aviation but for sure there are good people in HCAA but hard to find them as you are foreigners students
hope everyone can contact alot of students in Hero and in Greece and ask if i tell the truth or no?
wish the best for all of you.

[skymasterone]

no one finished training at hero aviaiton and no one will finish there , its fake school .

[starz]

Is it correct to say that Mrs M from HCCA licensing is giving information and tampering with students not to mention herself in exchange for a FREE atpl for her son at hero? :D
Greece has gone to a new low

[mad_jock]

Tampering with students although exremely funny is not i suspect what you actually meant.

I know english isn't you first language but that statement means she is having sexual contact with students. And the next bit todo with herself is also amusing in the same way.

But then again maybe you did mean it to say that

[magicmick]

The things some people will do to get free training for their kids, oh well I look forward to the release of the DVD.

[turbopropulsion]

There really needs to be a clear way to blacklist places such as these. The sheer amount of money people are spending warrants a decent feedback system. I myself and petrified to settle on a school, there seems to be a lot of sharks out there. :/

[starz]

Apparently one of the ex students of hero has a video footage....also voice recordings of dealings with the owner Dimos who talks about fake visas and about HCCA and how they under his control.....Even I am shocked :oh:

[pilot12345671]

Let me start by giving you the truth, I was a firm supporter of hero aviation as I joined this school, I wondered what all the bad reviews were about, then I gave my money and paid in advance, and all went down hill, very fast.


facts.


hero aviation has been reported to easa from many students, the owner captain Dimos, who was a truck driver not a pilot, has taken so many students money, and all they have been given in return is a very long holiday in kalamata,
if you decide to go to this school, don't say you weren't warned.


the only schools in Greece worth talking about are Global, egnatia, fas, Olympus.


facts....


- hero is qualified to give atpl , however in the history of the school there has never been a student to this day take a atpl or Cpl because the school don't have the infrastructure.


- if you don't lick the but of the owner after u pay him ul get kicked out visa caxl and no refund. there will be a story made up about you. that you were ill, mental, mafia, extremist and so on.


- any student that has ever finished only finished from another school and had to pay again.


- there is no multi engine, 1 x c150 1x c172 and I hope u got duck tape to keep these birds together.


the good points to the school is the instructors, but you can only fly 1 day a week so good luck to finish before your to old, or you could go to megera and fly a second day a week, that 3 hr drive away, take a tent you'll need it as ul sit there all day waiting your turn to fly.


in short, I ran away from this school but lost thousands, I now fly in uk and the difference is night and day, everyone will be to scared at this school to tell you as they have paid upfront and if they say a word you get fired as a student.


so if you want to loose your cash go hero, if you don't believe me well good luck.


why the school isn't closed you ask, well its called back handers to the right people.


so if you want to go and waist your time money and dreams, welcome to hero.


nick name banana aviation


as after you pay you will be lucky to get even a banana.

[Ahmedsalo]

Before You Attend to this banana school

ask them to meet someone done CPL and ATPL in the School

Simply you will not find someone maybe u'll find with PPL Only

The owner is a truck driver and Cheater finally he got PPL License

He has only two very old aircraft's (Single Engine)

AVOID THIS SCHOOL AT ALL COST

[parkfell]

Their website says it all.

Two single engined Cessna, with one upgraded for night flying !
No specified multi-engined aircraft.

The list is endless.........and who has approved this training?:ugh:

[Ahmedsalo]

They let their modular students start their ATPL groundschool without obtaining their PPL first.This goes against the rules laid out in PART FCL

[foxalfa]

I have been offered a FI job at HERO and I have to pay in advance €3000 as a guarantee.
The site looks quite good and even their page on facebook has a lot of "likes", but I have read many topics blaming the school and the HT as a cheater.
In the mails the person I wrote to has never signed the answers, wrote very direct and pretend an immediate availability. It is not normal....

I'm wondering about accepting the offer or not because regarding the world situation it is the only company which is hiring. :{

I don't know what to do............ :ugh:

[2close]

Hi foxalfa,

I have absolutely no knowledge of this company whatsoever and have no axe to grind. My comments are purely objective.

You have to make your own mind up, obviously, but I would read through this thread very carefully from start to finish and then remember that (a) anyone can put together a very impressive looking website and (b) you can buy as many 'likes' as you want for your Facebook page.

I am not suggesting this is what the owners(s) of the company have done just saying that it is possible.

As for paying a "guarantee" to work as a FI, what on earth is that for? The aircraft must be insured, the students must be insured and as an employer they must insure you. The only thing I can think of is that this is the excess charge applied by the insurance company, in case of accident.

DO NOT under any circumstances take a job with anyone as a contractor - the chances are that you may not be insured by the company's insurance, regardless of whatever the company may claim. If you had any accident you could find yourself financially crippled for a very long time! At the very least make sure you read the insurance policy document to make sure you are covered.

Lastly, before accepting any job you MUST take a look at the company, the airfield and especially the aircraft.

There are companies hiring in the UK - you just need to look around and be prepared to work hard for little money.

Good luck - whatever you decide keep us posted.

[foxalfa]

thank you 2close, your analysis is very peremptory. :ok: I have done the same as you, analizing all the data I have gathered from any page of the net and my conclusion is more negative rather than positive :( , but I still hoping that it is a serious school. :sad:
the airport lgkl is only open the mornings (and few afteroons) from monday to friday while the week end is closed.
up to now I am more and more bound to refuse the offer.

[parkfell]

Foxalfa

I would visit the establishment before making any decision to join as a FI.

As for paying any money in advance, this is very strange. What are you needing to guarantee ?

There are other outfits hiring.......:zzz:

[PropDude]

Stay away fro HERO. Egnatia is always looking for FIs, pays a good salary (around 2000 euros) and has the best reputation in Greece . Global aviation also opens FI positions from time to time with the same salary.
Good luck

[TheSkiingPilot]

Don't go to Hero Aviation! I hear only one student has come out of that school with the relevant licenses. It's a scam...

[parkfell]

The website this morning claims they have 30 active students. A Facebook picture on 28 February showed 20 people who I assume were current students. So trade would appear to have picked up.

If you assume an even spread of joining dates throughout the training period then 15 equivalent students will need 150 hours flying plus simulator.
I shall let you work out how many hours flying etc is needed to complete the course, and from their website the resources in terms of aircraft and instructors.

And that assumes a static state without new joining customers.

With the current economic situation ~ a default on the IMF repayment last night, the Facebook reassurance about personnel guarantees from the accountable manager is to say the least courageous. :{