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dctyke
6th Sep 2011, 06:23
On e-goat there is a thread ref an IBN that came out in July. The IBN apparently lists recently deceased Sqns that will go onto the 'dormant list' and which will have another life. Has anyone seen this and if so possibly give details.

regards

camelspyyder
6th Sep 2011, 07:33
4, 10 , XIII, 14, 51 to re-equip and remain active.

19, 42, 55, 76, 85, 111, CXX, 201, 207 to the dormant list.

NutherA2
6th Sep 2011, 07:46
Any info on 43 (F) ?

Duncan D'Sorderlee
6th Sep 2011, 08:50
From Wiki:

No. 43 Squadron RAF - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._43_Squadron_RAF)

And the RAF Website:

RAF - 43 Squadron (http://www.raf.mod.uk/organisation/43squadron.cfm)

Duncs:ok:

NutherA2
6th Sep 2011, 08:56
Sorry I didn't make myself clear, Duncs, (senility strikes again), as a former Fighting Cock I was looking for any info regarding possible reactivation of the 43(F) number plate; before that nice Dr Fox did his bean counter bit, it was rumoured that the number would be given to the second or third Leuchars-based Typhoon squadron.

Duncan D'Sorderlee
6th Sep 2011, 09:16
NutherA2,

Notwithstanding that it's from wiki, the link states:

"No. 43F Sqn stood down on 13 July 2009 for the fourth time in its history. It has been earmarked to reform as a Eurofighter Typhoon squadron, probably at RAF Leuchars.[10][dead link]"

The Link, which, as stated, is dead, was to an RAF News story.

However, I appreciate that you are looking for something a bot more substantial than wiki!

Duncs:ok:

cazatou
6th Sep 2011, 13:54
Dunc's

That statement is on a par with the statement made by CAS in 1975 that the then current Redundancy Scheme would be positively "the last Redundancy Scheme the RAF would ever have".

I left in the '96 Scheme'!!

Dockers
6th Sep 2011, 15:11
For those out, the following is a place to start: Royal Air Force Squadron Number Plates and Roles - The Hangar (http://thehangar.tv/forum/topics/royal-air-force-squadron-numbe)

Duncan D'Sorderlee
6th Sep 2011, 15:19
caz,

Too true!

Duncs:ok:

Spam_UK
6th Sep 2011, 17:13
Would be good to see "Guernsey's Own" re-equipped. For the history obviously, not the social trips to the island ;)

Spam

ProSentia
6th Sep 2011, 19:21
Am I being dense or has 1(F) Sqn been neglected?

camelspyyder
7th Sep 2011, 07:33
Unfortunately, I believe "dormant" is Air Force Board-speak for dead and buried.

I did chuckle at seeing CXX go when 206 is still alive and well ;)

f4aviation
7th Sep 2011, 08:48
I think it's almost certain we can deduce that the final two Typhoon units at Lossiemouth will be 1(F) and 43(F) Squadrons. It's just a shame that 1 won't be around next May for its centenary.

Bob Viking
7th Sep 2011, 11:48
Why not 19(F)?! Surely it must be in the mix?
BV:confused:

cazatou
7th Sep 2011, 14:28
The RAF's last Squadrons will be:-

No 1 Sqn

No 32 (TR) Sqn

No 84 Sqn (Symbolically Remaining Oversea's)

No 617 Sqn

Biggus
7th Sep 2011, 14:40
caz,

Given the time of day, and your stated age and location, I hope you are sitting outside drinking wine and eating cheese as you post on here - certainly a nice mental image in comparison to the weather picture outside my window right now.......


To the best of my knowledge, only 2 Sqns in the RAF have ever been awarded a standard before they had been in existence for the normal 25 year qualifying period. In both cases it was for their exploits in WW2.

One was 617 Sqn, the other has already been disbanded, although it probably helped save that particular Sqn from closure on one previous occasion.

cazatou
7th Sep 2011, 15:47
Biggus

Regret to report the Weather here is remarkably similar to Yours. The wine is, however, a comfort!!

1 Sqn was senior RFC Sqn.

32 Sqn is too useful for Royalty, Government Ministers and Senior Officers.

84 Sqn is the only serving Sqn which has never (even for a single day) served in the United Kingdom.

617 Sqn is to many the symbol that lives up to the RAF Motto.

Cheers!!

cazatou
8th Sep 2011, 15:49
Brian

Different from the history we were told when I served on the Sqn.

XV277
9th Sep 2011, 01:09
I think it's almost certain we can deduce that the final two Typhoon units at Lossiemouth will be 1(F) and 43(F) Squadrons. It's just a shame that 1 won't be around next May for its centenary.

Agreed re No.1 - but does 111 have seniority over 43? Is 43 already on the dormant list, or 'on hold' ? Anyone from AHB on?

f4aviation
9th Sep 2011, 08:28
At April 2011, 43 Sqn had 84.00 years service and 111 Sqn 83.43, so it was a close call.

The only flies in the ointment are 25 Sqn with 91.11 years and 23 Sqn with 87.08 years - but then 43's Scottish connections seem to favour it. (Source UK Air Power 2011, Key Publishing.)

Archimedes
9th Sep 2011, 10:34
Not from AHB, but last time I spoke to the Head of AHB about this - God only knows why it came up in the conversation - there might have been some confusion over 43's continuous service, since it appeared further down on the seniority list (at the time, about 12-18 months ago) than might have been expected; there was a possibility that some sums had gone awry. The figures f4 offers suggest there might have been a bit of recalculation going on, since they look a bit more akin to what would be expected.

The problem for 43 is that unless 23 and 25 are assigned somewhere else, the numberplate policy means that assuming 1(F) is the next Typhoon unit to form to meet the policy regarding seniority in assigning numberplates, 25 should be the next to form. 25 and 23 both have Scottish connections as well - albeit not as long standing as 43's - and I would imagine that it could be difficult to justify the Scottish connection to trump the numberplate policy relating to seniority, although it wouldn't be impossible.

Spam_UK
9th Sep 2011, 18:32
Out of curiosity where would one find Sqn seniority info?