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Deeday
28th Aug 2011, 13:34
Another tale of forced landings over built up areas, with happy ending this time:

AP-EU-Germany-Crash-Landing (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jhhT9VimfqqnruRGRpidk-L8W3EQ?docId=2570ca1241624b66b3a4bd1bb3aad1de)


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/29/article-2031311-0D9B481E00000578-326_634x527.jpg

DX Wombat
28th Aug 2011, 13:45
Wow! That looks very tight. :ooh: Well done that pilot. :D

hvogt
28th Aug 2011, 20:18
A C172 crash-landed in a residential area today in Germany. Nobody injured. Seems like the Hudson miracle of general aviation.

Article (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jhhT9VimfqqnruRGRpidk-L8W3EQ?docId=2570ca1241624b66b3a4bd1bb3aad1de&index=0).

MarcJF
28th Aug 2011, 20:31
Good work by the pilot, not much room for error there.

westhawk
28th Aug 2011, 20:49
Well maybe not quite like Sully's river run, but a pretty good outcome nonetheless.

During the time I was stationed in Deutschland, this crazy German kid named Mathias Rust flew to Moscow and landed a Skyhawk in Red Square. Half the Russian air defense units in the Western theater had new commanders within the week. I thought it a miracle the incident didn't start WWIII.

Walder
28th Aug 2011, 20:51
A C172 crash-landed in a residential area today in Germany. Nobody injured. Seems like the Hudson miracle of general aviation.

Article (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jhhT9VimfqqnruRGRpidk-L8W3EQ?docId=2570ca1241624b66b3a4bd1bb3aad1de&index=0).

The Airplane were not that big - it was an C-150:8

ASN Aircraft accident 28-AUG-2011 Cessna 150F N6619F (http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=138219)

Good job anyway:ok:

Walder:p

Enos
28th Aug 2011, 21:28
By the looks of the Reg (N) he was from out of town.

C-172ER, Maybe he was out of gas, long range cruise VS econ, etc.

LH2
29th Aug 2011, 22:25
During the time I was stationed in Deutschland, this crazy German kid named Mathias Rust flew to Moscow and landed a Skyhawk in Red Square.

Bit of an aside, but that Red Square thing was journalistic licence. He actually landed on a bridge a few blocks away, then taxied a bit closer to the square.

Half the Russian air defense units in the Western theater had new commanders within the week.

True, although I believe this incident was more of a welcome excuse than the actual cause, as it became known years latter.

Apologies for the drift.

LH2
29th Aug 2011, 22:27
I remember my first instructor telling me that during forced landings Number 1 Priority was to descend with airspeed under control, and Number 2 was to avoid hitting anything with the fuselage. The exact location for the landing was Number 3. His experience included flying Bird Dogs under ground fire in Korea, and I think this shows he had the right idea!

That seems like very sensible advice. Thanks for sharing.

airpolice
30th Aug 2011, 10:50
So....is nobody going to ask how he came to be so short of landing options?

This looks like another case of flying over a built up area without thinking it through.

Should there not be some sort of legislation about this kind of thing...perhaps even a RULE of the Air?

That way the CAA could produce a leaflet, called, something like Safety Sense. http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/crossing%20large%20built-up%20areas.pdf

EDMJ
30th Aug 2011, 12:24
This looks like another case of flying over a built up area without thinking it through.

In this case it could very well be a bit premature to jump to such conclusions.

The aircraft was approaching to land at Aschaffenburg-Grossostheim. The circuit is to the north of the airfield, with entry on the downwind leg from the north. Frankfurt Airspace C is on top, starting at 3500 ft MSL. Have a look at it all at Google Maps, and you'll see that there were not many options.

B2N2
30th Aug 2011, 15:56
According to the article the pilot choose the street over filled with fences and animals.
I wasn't there with him but that sounds a little dodgy.
In any case they survived without too many injuries, that's the good thing.

It may seem a miracle but a quick Google search brings up quite a few landings on a public street:

Mesa Arizona:
http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/eastvalleytribune.com/content/tncms/assets/editorial/b/57/889/b5788920-4fe8-5bce-8a62-b984ce11f985.preview-300.jpg
Source: Plane crash-lands on Mesa street - East Valley Tribune: Home (http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/article_bdc98109-97e2-5bfb-9699-9d1b7ce44152.html)

South Wales:
http://images.smh.com.au/2011/02/09/2175628/smithfield-wesleylonergan42-420x0.jpg

http://www.allword-news.co.uk/images/US%20Plane%20Crash%20Lands%20On%20Toilets.jpg

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/napavalleyregister.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/7/39/7395bc59-ee09-5daf-9920-8c4cfbcc5af3/4e5ac4469302e.image.jpg

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/10/18/news/photos_stories/cropped/death_planes--300x150.jpg

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/img/2007/world/1908_plane_a.jpg

http://brightcove01.brightcove.com/2/268012958001/268012958001_907428179001_vs-907412733001.jpg?pubId=268012958001

This is probably one of the most haunting pictures, taken minutes after the crash with the dazed pilot still (s)trapped in his seat:

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/09_03/bobrobertsMS2209_800x491.jpg

Flying Lawyer
30th Aug 2011, 19:00
airpolice So....is nobody going to ask how he came to be so short of landing options?

I'm not.
If the pilot is a Ppruner I assume he/she will tell us in due course.
If not, it just encourages speculation - which, unfortunately, frequently takes the form of speculating about the various ways in which the pilot be at fault.

On the bare facts known: Well done to him/her. :ok:
Not much room to spare.

FL

Bronx
30th Aug 2011, 19:37
http://www.pprune.org/private-flying/101076-pilot-dock-running-out-fuel-update-pilot-cleared-merged.html


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39470000/jpg/_39470975_plane_crash_bbc_203.jpg

WestWind1950
30th Aug 2011, 19:57
there are too many airfields with built up areas just under the traffic pattern or in the take-off area with few options. Even the experts say this guy did a good job (in German only, sorry) (http://www.main-netz.de/nachrichten/region/aschaffenburg/aschaffenburg-land/land/art3986,1775161)

One of the most dangerous fields in Germany is Mannheim... take-off to the west right over the city, to the east a highway and homes.... google it.

LH2
30th Aug 2011, 22:22
Santa Monica, CA yesterday. Student pilot doing his XC from KSMO to KSBA.

Did he pass? :8

Hodja
31st Aug 2011, 03:56
Yikes. I did the exact same trip KSMO-KSBA 3 days ago in a C172 on my instrument checkride. (passed btw :8)

Looks like he crashed at Navy St & 21st - shouldn't he have been over the golf course at this point instead? (VFR departures on rwy 21 usually entails a noise abated left turn over a local golf course right after takeoff)

patowalker
31st Aug 2011, 07:35
Quote:
Originally Posted by B2N2
This is probably one of the most haunting pictures, taken minutes after the crash with the dazed pilot still (s)trapped in his seat:

Amazing, he even managed to crash inside the yellow taped off area!! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif

It's Arnie. :)

airpolice
31st Aug 2011, 08:16
It's Arnie. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

Looks more like Bruce Willis doing yet another "Die Hard" movie.

Pull what
31st Aug 2011, 14:31
Be interesting to see that guys log book entry for that flight