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Up-into-the-air
28th Aug 2011, 09:52
20.11 + Requirements

The requirements for 20.11 appear to be quite difficult and confused when the relevant CAR's and CAA is consulted. The CAO is clear, but the field advice from CASA and general requirements are varied as to the correct path to follow with 20.11 approval.

Reading the national aviation syllabus, seems to require a pass in units AVIF214A and AVIF3006B [ www.training.gov.au - AVIF3005B - Maintain the safety of people and aircraft (http://training.gov.au/%28S%282s2hdn0xjwgbpfsagxd0gui5%29%29/Training/Details/AVIF3005B), OR www.training.gov.au - AVIF3006B - Respond to abnormal and emergency situations within the aircraft (http://training.gov.au/%28S%282s2hdn0xjwgbpfsagxd0gui5%29%29/Training/Details/AVIF3006B) with a nominated RTO [Registered Training organisation]

The assessment is by the RTO.

The assessment and a pass should give the candidate a 20.11 pass and a log book entry.

The question is:



Is the pass requirement and certification sufficient to give the 20.11 assessment?
If the RTO gives a pass, does that give the assessor the right, as this is a national syllabus and approved RTO for the course to make a logbook entry indicating the course pass and the meeting of 20.11?

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In the CAO, there is no indication as to a nominated person for the sign-off. Is this the Chief Pilot, an ATO or a RTO

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Civil Aviation Order 20.11 - Appendix IV

Crew member emergency procedures proficiency test

The proficiency test shall cover all of those emergency procedures that the crew
member may be called upon to perform. It shall include at least the following.

1 Practical operation

1.1 Emergency evacuation procedures. Operation and use of each type of normal and emergency exit, evacuation slide and escape rope and procedures for evacuation.
1.2 Fire extinguishing. Method of operation of each type of portable fire extinguisher.
1.3 Oxygen. Methods of use of fixed and portable oxygen equipment.
1.3A Portable megaphones. Method of operation of each type of portable megaphone.

1.4 Ditching procedures, where applicable:

(a) fitting and inflation of life jackets and location and use of equipment stowed as
part of the life jacket. Additionally, for initial qualification each crew member shall demonstrate competency in the use of the life jacket in the water; and

(b) removal from stowage, launching and inflation of life rafts. For initial qualification each crew member shall demonstrate proficiency in his or her assigned duties. Thereafter all crew members shall be given an annual demonstration of launching and inflation and shall demonstrate competency in boarding procedures and the use of the life raft and its equipment; and

(c) use of signalling equipment; and

(d) use of first aid kits.

1.5 Subject to the approval of CASA, realistic mock-ups of emergency equipment may be used. Where the replacing of a particular item of equipment such as rafts, exits, slides, etc., would involve an excessive amount of maintenance action an operator may, subject to the approval of CASA, provide a group demonstration of the operation of the equipment. In this event the group demonstration must be supported by an approved pictorial presentation. Each crew member must satisfy the person certifying to competency that he has an adequate knowledge of the emergency operation of equipment and, if necessary, that he has physically assessed the difficulty involved in operating it.

1.6 When operation or use of the emergency mechanism may cause damage to the aircraft or equipment or be a hazard to personnel an approved pictorial or simulated
presentation may be used. For the proficiency test the crew member must satisfy the person certifying to competency that he has an adequate knowledge of the emergency operation of the mechanism.

2 Theoretical knowledge

2.1 Fire extinguishing:

(a) a knowledge of the location and types of extinguishers carried and of fires for which each type of extinguisher should be used; and
(b) a knowledge of whether the contents of the fire extinguishers and the products of extinguishing fires are toxic or likely to adversely affect breathing; and
(c) any precautions to be observed in the operation of fire extinguishers.


2.2 Oxygen. Applicable to operations on pressurised aircraft and where the provision of oxygen is required.

(a) A knowledge of the effects of altitude on:
(i) respiration; and
(ii) hypoxia; and
(iii) duration of consciousness at various altitudes without supplemental oxygen;
and
(iv) gas expansion; and
(v) gas bubble formation.
(b) A knowledge of:
(i) the physical phenomena of decompression; and
(ii) precautions in use of oxygen; and
(iii) location of oxygen equipment carried.

2.3 Survival. Knowledge of survival methods on land and water, including stowage location of survival beacons, etc.

2.4 Control of passengers during emergencies including emergency evacuation:

(a) methods of control, e.g. psychological, physical; and
(b) stowage location and correct use of restraint equipment; and
(c) handling of disabled passengers; and
(d) handling of deranged passengers and others whose conduct might jeopardise the safety of the aircraft; and
(e) action to be taken in the event of a hijack or attempted hijack.

thorn bird
28th Aug 2011, 10:17
Mate there are quite a few issues with CAO 20.11, a lot of which are determined
by your local FOI. In NSW for example everyone from the CEO down is liable under NSW occupational safety legislation and can be jailed if someone is injured doing this stuff, which I believe can be better demonstrated by video, a back yard jump in the pool is hardly demonstrative of what an actual ditching would be like, examine the regs and a life jacket tick in the box could be completed standing in a 44 gallon drum of water in the back of the hanger. With the best safty precautions I have seen people injured doing 20.11 certification, so if a company gets sued by work safe NSW... dont CASA get named as codefendants for requiring it. To prove what?..I've been told by an FOI that competency is proved if fully clothed an applicant can board a raft with an inflated jacket on...what if he/she cant??...failed...so sacked??...cant fly them without a valid 20.11...I'm sure fair work Australia would be interested, do CASA bear some of the liability if this occurs??..continually opening emergency exits, which were never designed to be doors, wears out the mechanisms..to prove what??...a passenger dosnt have to acually do it as part of the pre flight briefing...and they are more than likely the ones who operate that door...how many instances of these doors departing an aircraft in flight compared with how many ditchings?...The whole thing is a tick in the box exercise to prove what?
I do not advocate not doing 20.11...just making it a worthwhile exercise and I believe that can better be achieved by, not spending a fortune repacking rafts and jackets, damaging the aircraft, and risking injury to staff.

Budgie Smuggler
28th Aug 2011, 11:01
Does this answer your question?

CAO 20.11 (12)

12 Crew member proficiency in the execution of emergency procedures

12.1 A crew member shall not be assigned or accept assignment to emergency duties in an aircraft engaged in a charter or a regular public transport operation unless he has undertaken and passed the proficiency test specified in Appendix IV of this section on that type of aircraft.

12.2 Subject to paragraph 12.6, the proficiency test shall be taken and passed annually.

12.3 Subject to paragraph 12.3.1, the proficiency test to be undertaken by a crew member of an aircraft is to be conducted by:

12.3.1 (a) CASA; or

(b) a person approved by CASA for the purpose; or

(c) the person appointed as Chief Pilot by the operator of the aircraft.


I am tempted to say it is quite simple, really - but maybe I won't.