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Take five
31st Jul 2011, 10:49
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Our new regulations have arrived and, after the fact, we are all finding out just exactly what they mean.
Everyone was told what was involved, and how they could object.
It was what they didn't say, that is the problem now.
CASA and the Australian Licensing System, was, in the past, the most respected system in the world.
You could convert your Australian L.A.M.E. license to a license, anywhere else in the world where you wanted to go.
The difference in these modern times is that a CASA license now, according to global standards, is not worth the paper that it is printed on.
An A license, is truly a COMPANY license, which will not be recognized anywhere but Qantas.
The people who are GIVEN these licenses by Qantas will have no future, apart from the company which they work for now.
It will never become convertible
CASA have been bought, and are being run as a subsidiary of Qantas.
I know a person who reported to CASA, who signed off on Qantas/CASA audits on a daily basis, who could no longer play the game because of his conscience, and ended up leaving Qantas to gain his sanity.
We have come, from being a globally respected company and regulator, to the laughing stock of the world.
How has this happened.
It is apathy, or deviousness, or a bit of both.

Arnold E
31st Jul 2011, 11:11
You could convert your Australian L.A.M.E. license to a license, anywhere else in the world where you wanted to go.
No, not true, an Australian LAME licence in England, for instance, had the the same status as an empty beer bottle. Ask me how I know, now my licence may be worth something in the old country.

Take five
31st Jul 2011, 11:29
Arnold
Your license, now, is worth nothing in England as it does not meet the EASA criteria.

Nudlaug
31st Jul 2011, 13:07
You could convert your Australian L.A.M.E. license to a license, anywhere else in the world where you wanted to go

Not true. The Europeans wouldn't just convert it, to convert it you had to sit their exams and every country had their own rules, FAA made you sit their full exam too. There was never any mutual recognition either way. And A licences have nothing to do with Qantas in particular, they are used all over Europe and now here as well. Not saying they are a good idea. But they are a specific case anyway, B1/B2 is what it's all about. And once the Australian system is recognized by EASA, then and only then you can take your CASA B1 or B2 across to Europe without any further troubles apart from Air legislation. So finally, slowly a common standard where your B1/B2 licence can be used in different parts of the world. It's about time too, took em long enough fing around!

CASA and the Australian Licensing System, was, in the past, the most respected system in the world

I disagree, imho UK CAA was/is the most respected system in the world.

sixtiesrelic
31st Jul 2011, 22:48
Has CASA lost the plot? ... never bloody had it.
The majority of the inmates are non-events from the industry who really didn't make it.
They get into CASA and have any semblance of sanity removed in their mentoring and training and become negativites protecting themselves from any reprecussions that might eventuate from a decision they make.
Type specialists and the like ... Ha! what a joke. The crook ones I've heard about are amazing; their knowlege of their specialisation is legendary in its stupidity. They get so entrenched in their electron microscopic view of their field that they have no idea of what the hell they're doing. TOO much time to read and re-read the books and come up with their own interpretation of every paragraph so they're safe.
The good ones are GOOD but sadly few and far between.
Nothing's changed. DCA were a bit better, but 'no' was the usual answer to any query and like these engineering licenses; what was the good of a second class instrument rating to a pilot.

neville_nobody
31st Jul 2011, 23:47
what was the good of a second class instrument rating to a pilot.

The idea of that was to stop 2nd officer's at QF (who they had trained up from scratch) from leaving and going to other airlines. So same as this new AME license you have brought up.

Same as the RAAF. If you fail on your last training flight before graduating you don't get ANY credit for ANY flying you have done.

sixtiesrelic
1st Aug 2011, 00:57
Neville second class instrument rating may have been OK for QF and perhaps TAA cadets but it came in way before cadets.
The RAAF... ah! yes the cream of the cream and wipe out the ordinary plodder.

PA39
1st Aug 2011, 01:02
Sixtiesrelic....ah, all so true and well written !