EK cadet program to accept all nationalities

[GMC1500]

Just read it today.

[cyrilroy21]

@GMC1500 Where did you read about it ?

[Kittty125]

I may be wrong but I think this is a different scheme. It's a JAA Licensed Ab Initio Pilot Training Programme so I would imagine you'll have to pay for it (unlike the Cadet Programme).

Good luck anyway though.

[Jumbo744]

Hello Guys,

I couldn't find anything on EK website. Can you post a link about this program please?

Thanks!

[CAVnotOK]

Received in Company email today.

7 months ground school in Dubai, followed by 10 months flight training in Portugal.

No mention about candidates paying, but i'm sure it would come with a hefty training bond. Also, no mention if the package will be the same as F/O or otherwise.

Cav.

[Jumbo744]

thanks for the info !!

[cyrilroy21]

Taken from the Interview and sponsorship forum

Emirates Aviation College
To assist in meeting the future demand for highly skilled professional airline pilots, Emirates Aviation College is pleased to announce the launch of an Ab Initio pilot training programme (JAA Licensed) in November 2011. The programme will be open to all nationalities.

The college has gathered the necessary tools, skills, support and expertise to offer training to produce the highest quality pilots for the industry. The programme will be delivered in Dubai and in Lisbon, Portugal. The ground school will take place in Dubai for seven months and the flying school will be attended in Lisbon for 10 months.

At the end of their training, cadets will obtain a frozen ATPL licence (theory) and a CPL licence with IR (instrument rating), SE (single engine) and ME (multi engine) ratings, and ICAO Language Proficiency certification. The practical part of the programme will be taught applying airline philosophy and standard operating procedures to assure the best possible training for professional airline pilots.

For more information about the programme, fees and entry requirements, please contact =+971 04 218 9123 or +971 04 218 9124, or email [email protected] or [email protected].


And this is the reply from one of candidates that applied

Greetings,

Thank you for your interest in our Pilot Training Programme. Please find attached the requested information. Please do not hesitate to contact us for any further clarifications.

Please note that job placement is not guaranteed in any airline.


Best regards, ,
Sanaa Tibary


Info on the email

Duration: 17 months from commencement date 13th of November, 2011
Entry Requirements: Min 17 years old
High School Certificate or equivalent
Class I Medical Certificate
Must pass the following pre-selection process:
(Psychotechnical tests, Oral & written English exam and personal interview)
Course fee: AED 600,000 (inclusive of full board accommodations in Lisbon, 3 tickets,
visas, books and materials, selection process)

[Jumbo744]

LOL....600 000 AED!!! forget it.

[sonsal]

There is nothing written about the acceptance of cadet in Emirates airlines??

[BigGeordie]

Sonsal, it is not a cadet scheme. You pay for your training and then try/hope to get a job, just as with any other flying training school.

"job placement is not guaranteed in any airline." seems pretty clear to me.

I'm not really up to date with the cost of flying training but 160,000 USD seems pretty steep to me.

[d105]

At the end of their training, cadets will obtain a frozen ATPL licence (theory) and a CPL licence with IR (instrument rating), SE (single engine) and ME (multi engine) ratings, and ICAO Language Proficiency certification. The practical part of the programme will be taught applying airline philosophy and standard operating procedures to assure the best possible training for professional airline pilots.


Unless I'm missing something here these cadets will not be given an MCC course on a Jet sim. Would they be so evil as to ask more money from people for an MCC?


Please note that job placement is not guaranteed in any airline.


Classic.

[cyrilroy21]

Would an EK pilot care to post the email received from the company here on the forum ?

If you do not want to make it public you can pm it to me or mail it to
[email protected] :)

[givemewings]

Seems to me it's another programme added to the stable at EAC as a revenue stream, (like the dispatcher & aviation management courses) NOT the 'cadet program' of old where you applied and were accepted into Emirates upon successful passing of the course (as I think still happens with Nationals)

Shame but I never really expected them to open the cadet scheme to non-nationals again, then again I suppose if they are getting really short of pilots in the future maybe they will consider it...

If so there are about half a dozen cabin crew currently flying who should be given places first as they had already passed and were accepted just before EK decided to stop accepting non-nationals onto the cadet courses.

[cyrilroy21]

@givemewings

When did EK ever accept non nationals into their cadet program :ooh: ?

[givemewings]

Well they did 3 to 4 years ago as I have met several people who were offered places but for various reasons were postponed, they then stopped accepting non-nationals and so those people never started in the program.

I'm not sure if this was an internal application process or not, as those people I know of were already working for EK, but they were definitely not UAE or GCC nationals.

[fatbus]

Never heard of it!

[harry the cod]

Etihad used to, Emirates never have. Perhaps there was confusion between the two?

Harry

[givemewings]

Could be, we were discussing it on a ULR flight so they could have been talking about Etihad & jetlag might have fuzzed the details a bit... but the crew concerned said EK... *shrug* just sayin' what I was told... 'tis a rumour network after all.... ;)

[kumul1]

Just to reiterate so we don't launch into a tangent, from what I understand, the course is offered by the Emirates Aviation College in collaboration with Jeppessen, which is part of the Emirates Group but not Emirates Airline. The same college offers degrees in various aviation related courses and even MBA's in collaboration with overseas based Universities at a discount rate to EK employees.

the EK cadet program is a totally different program as only open to UAE nationals at present.:)

[GMC1500]

That is correct, once I've re-read it. This is not a cadet scheme, simply a flight school being offered by Emirates. There are fees associated with it. Sorry guys and girls.

[Schnowzer]

It is not EK. EAC and Emirates are not the same, just like BAA and BA. This is not a selected programme and the output will not be taken by EK. Do not be confused! There is an Emirates bank, Emirates Golf Club etc etc.

[Oblaaspop]

EAC and Emirates are not the same????

Errrr, yes they are mate!

EAC is a joint venture between EK Flight Training and CAE of Canada.:hmm:

[Schnowzer]

You do not get an EK staff number, they are part of the group just like Costa or Arabian Adventures and they don't lead to a RHS with EK. You are right tho, BA /BAA analogy was bollocks probably should have talked about Virgin's Music store instead. The important thing is that ant takers realise EK are not going to take them out of that course!

[fatbus]

It has nothing to do with EK, EAC is a part of Emirates group.

[Wizofoz]

Clearly graduates from this won't qualify to even apply to Emirates under the current criteria. Is there even the suggestion they will be considered for some kind of Second officer type scheme?

[Kittty125]

Not sure Wiz, but I heard that "EK Cadets to FlyDubai" scheme is back on. First 4 to start in August. That could be an option for anyone with 600,000 AED to blow!:cool:

[GMC1500]

Talk about buying a job?
That's way more money than I ever had to invest on my flight training.:eek:

[drc_10]

Hello there,

Can anyone provide any insights into the sort of job prospects for individuals completing the fATPL course with Emirates Aviation College? I know that they are not guaranteeing jobs with Emirates Airline, as I understand Emirates asks for at least 4,000 hours of flying time for the position of a First Officer.

Thanks in advance.

[fatbus]

There is no link between ETC ATPL and a job at EK, 4000 hrs still the min

[Fender Bender]

4000 min for what? Min's now are 2500, of course dependent on aircraft type. You can even apply if you don't have the twenty five, but will shortly. Pilots arriving from Ryan and Easy with 2500 total......fact. Web site still says 4000, but they must be making exceptions for the above pilots.

[fatbus]

Min 4000 hrs , there are exceptions 2500 hr of modern jet (read 320/73ng ) hence easy/ryan. As of right now there is no shortage of app's, but soon they will annouce they are very short of pilots not app's.500 pilots per year for a few years to come.

[Wizofoz]

Can anyone provide any insights into the sort of job prospects for individuals completing the fATPL course with Emirates Aviation College?

drc,

That question will depend a lot on who you are and where you are entitled to work.

If you are a national of a GCC state, or similar state with a state-owned airline, it would likely get you a job as most of them have a policy of hiring Locals.

If you are entitled to work in the EU, it may get you a job with a second-level operator, or as FO on a Turbo-prop.

If neither of these are tru, the qualification seems pretty useless, as most Airlines that accept pilots with low experience do so through their own, in house or approve third pary cadet schemes.

There are much cheaper ways to get a qualification, which are much more likely to get you the elusive first job.

[drc_10]

Hi Wizofoz,

That's very useful - thank you very much.

I wouldn't fall in any of the categories you have mentioned. I am looking at various options, including the MPL offered by Alpha Aviation in Sharjah. Seems like a good course, given their partnership with Air Arabia.

Thanks again.

[Ghost_Rider737]

600 k AED its more like an April fools joke in August... :yuk::ugh:Thats my years salary !