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OpenCirrus619
25th Jun 2011, 21:00
Slightly puzzled...was checking for this weekend and saw the NOTAM below on NotamPlot. On checking I realised that it had been promulgated from the French authorities - but 50% of it is in UK airspace and it covers SE Dover.

I can't find any reference to it on the AIS website - surely a Point Brief for 60nm around EGKH (Headcorn) would detect it.

3 questions:

Am I missing something on the AIS website?
Does a French NOTAM have any legitimacy in UK airspace? :confused:
Do I now need to check French NOTAMS to fly in SE England? :sad:


OC619

Ref: C2267/11
FIR: LFFF
Code: RTCA
Traffic: VFR IFR
Purpose: PIB entry Operationally significant for flights
Scope: Aerodrome Nav Warning
Lower limit (FL): 000
Upper limit (FL): 020
Centre and radius (nm): 5103N00139E015
Parent ICAO: LFAC
Start date/time: 15/06/2011 00:00 UTC
End date/time: 30/09/2011 23:59 UTC
Activity period: SR MINUS30-SS PLUS30
Lower height limit: 000
Upper height limit: 020

TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA (ZRT) DUE TO CHANNEL CROSSING BY A DRONE
GUIDED BY A ULTRA LIGHT MOTORIZED:
RDL 293/12.38NM LFAC
- LATERAL LIMITS:
CORRIDOR OF 3.6NM WIDTH WITHIN FRENCH FIR WITH FOLLOWING PSN:
505822.56N- 0020032.67E
505522.03N- 0015720.74E
511046.02N- 0012016.75E
510748.62N- 0011720.12E
- ENTRY CONDITIONS:
GAT VFR/IFR AND OAT I,T,V: COMPULSORY BYPASS EXCEPT FOR FOLLOWING
ACFT:
. DRONE INVOLVED IN THE OPERATION
. ULTRA LIGHT MOTORIZED TAKING PART TO THE CHANNEL CROSSING
. ACFT ALLOWED BY CALAIS TWR OR LILLE APP WITH PPR 30 MINS
. ACFT PERFORMING ASSISTANCE, RESCUE OR PUBLIC SAFETY MISSIONS WHEN THEIR MISSIONS ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA AVOIDANCE, UPON CLEARANCE FROM CALAIS TWR OR LILLE APP.
- SERVICES PROVIDED:
IDENTICAL TO THE INTERFERING AIRSPACE.
- SPECIAL PROVISIONS:
DURING ACTUAL ACTIVITY, FOLLOWING ACTIVITIES ARE SUSPENDED:
. PJE NR 227 CALAIS DUNKERQUE AD
. AEROBATICS NR 6001 CALAIS DUNKERQUE AD
. MODELFLYING CALAIS DUNKERQUE AD
- ACTUAL ACTIVITY AVBL FROM:
CALAIS TWR 128.925 MHZ
LILLE APP 120.275 MHZ

Roffa
25th Jun 2011, 21:24
Are you confusing the way NotamPlot throws up lots of circles when displaying NOTAMs with...

LATERAL LIMITS:
CORRIDOR OF 3.6NM WIDTH WITHIN FRENCH FIR WITH FOLLOWING PSN

...from the actual NOTAM?

OpenCirrus619
26th Jun 2011, 10:14
Roffa,

Thanks for the response.

I'm familiar with the quirks of NotamPlot.

What raised a doubt in my mind that I might have missed something on the AIS website was the conflict between:
WITHIN FRENCH FIR
The northern 2 corners of the corridor being on the UK mainland


When I read the French NOTAM I was half expecting a UK NOTAM covering the other half of the box.

OC619

IO540
26th Jun 2011, 18:19
As a general comment, it is perfectly normal to get a notam covering non-UK airspace from the UK notam website.

There is no need to brief from NATS for UK airspace, brief from the SIA for French airspace, etc.

A Narrow Route Briefing from NATS is good for worldwide flying.