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t_losen
4th Jun 2011, 23:43
hi

is it possible too put the grumman cheetah cowl on the traveler?? is it possible too put the cheetah elevator on the traveler?? we are 4 guys who rebuild a traveler, and need some info... we will be happy if someone can help us with tips...

Newforest2
5th Jun 2011, 07:20
Could ask these people the question! :)

AYA - Welcome to the AYA (http://www.aya.org/s/358/index.aspx)

A and C
5th Jun 2011, 10:08
You need to go into the parts manual, if the part number is the same then you can fit the part.

If not you will need autorisation from the manufacturer of an EASA modification.

jxk
5th Jun 2011, 14:39
What are the rules these days about removing a part from one aircraft and fitting to another? In the good old days it was simply a log book entry. But now we are in EASA is a Form 1 required and to what parameters would you have to approve a part to?

hatzflyer
5th Jun 2011, 18:22
The Cheeter tailplane is longer span than the Traveller.

rgsaero
5th Jun 2011, 20:14
The answer to the original questions are - "no" and "no".

If you need help go to the man who knows at Matair & if you don't know here he is pm me

rgsaero

Yankee
6th Jun 2011, 22:45
OK let’s first correct that to a one “L” Traveler.:ok:

Yes both have been done before in the UK, check out AAN Search Results | Airworthiness | Safety Regulation (http://urlzr.mp/P8)

The 1975 Traveler’s are basically the same as the earlier models, but with the Cheetah engine cowlings, induction system and main undercarriage clean up fairings. That all sounds straight forward as long as you have ready access to the Cheetah donor parts.


As for the cowling here is just a quick list of what I can think of you will need from the Cheetah. Top and bottom cowlings, Nose leg boot and retainer, nose bowl, all engine baffles, airbox, airbox to carb duct and ideally the engine mount although the one done under the above AAN modified the cowl centre hinge to clear the top of the original engine mount.
If you are going to do the main leg fairing clean-up be aware that the fuel sump covers of the Cheetah will fowl the sump drains unless you reposition the sumps or modify the sump fairings as was done on G-BAOV.


Now for the interesting bit, fitting the larger tailplane. Because of the completely different way in which the Cheetah’s tailplane is attached, by far the easiest way is to replace the complete back end of the fuselage beyond the honeycomb cockpit section and it looks like this.



http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s3/grumpyparts/AA5-half1.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s3/grumpyparts/AA5-half2.jpg


The added advantages of doing it this way is that if you have a pre 1974 Traveler you also gain a baggage door and longer rear windows.
To accomplish this, it is all covered in the maintenance manual at http://urlzr.mp/57