View Full Version : Plagiarism again
28th May 2011, 10:48
Posted by Draper 16 September 2002.
'Our universe is inside a black hole.
not many peeps know that yet'.
PS, they will when me books published.
"Black Holes are the Engines that Create New Universes" (Today's Most Popular) (http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2011/05/new-theory-black-holes-give-birth-to-new-universes-todays-most-popular.html)
Pity,one never got round to writing that book.:(
28th May 2011, 11:18
Only so much one can do TD.
We at JB all understand that you’ve wast..( sorry,”expended” – I really do mean “expended”!!) all of your time and energy in seeking to understand a black (and white) hole much nearer to home. When you finally understand that complex situation you can be confident that you will have solved all of the secrets of particle physics.:ok:
Krystal n chips
28th May 2011, 11:32
Would you be in need of, ahem, a member of the legal profession then Mr D?. :D
28th May 2011, 11:53
I think we should start a petition to rename "Black Hole" to " Draper's Hole" in recognition of his remarkable and timely discovery. :)
28th May 2011, 11:56
Alas Sir Draper of the North, as is often the case with brilliance, it gets hidden under a bushel and it's luminescence n'er to be seen. :sad:
There does, however, seem to be a phenomena whereby when shifts of knowledge take place in the world, there is often another or others discovering the same thing and all unknown to each other, as though the knowledge has been transferred from some greater source. I wonder when this plagiarous plagerite first had the thought wot you did ? Oh well, as wise men have said, "get it in writing" or in these cases "Get Writing!"
28th May 2011, 12:04
I think we should start a petition to rename "Black Hole" to " Draper's Hole" in recognition of his remarkable and timely discovery.
Yeah, that'll go down well in the future when they have the reports of some spaceship disappearing into Draper's Hole, with the loss of all hands.........
28th May 2011, 13:34
Mr Drapes, I was completely unaware that your qualifications as Astrophysicist, was just another string to your bow.
Was that qualification acquired before or after the Nuclear Physics degree? - and was that only a short while after you qualified as Captain??
Pray tell, just how many degrees are there behind your surname? - and is it more correct if we refer to you as Emeritus Professor Drapes, from now on? :)
28th May 2011, 13:54
One man's plagiarism is another man's intertextuality.
Intertextuality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intertextuality)
28th May 2011, 15:55
Quite right Drapes and I remember yer post.
Doc Carl Sagan was the first I ever heard who suggested the
Universe could be the interior of a Black Hole. When the total
estimated mass of universal Dark Matter is shoe-horned (http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/images/rot_curve_mw.gif) into
the equation, there's no mathematical reason why it couldn't
It theoretically proves too there is no physical escape from
this Universe, although the same numbers do not discount
sub-Universal travel by plunging into a local Black Hole. The
present impracticality of achieving this stunt however is why
its best left to the Evel Knevels of the far future.
28th May 2011, 16:05
One dabbles in occasionally Mr Slasher,one's interest has recently been rekindled by the acquisition of a new five inch refractor,given a couple of clear nights one shall no doubt resolve all these mysteries.
28th May 2011, 16:14
We wait with baited breath Cap'n Drapes.
Now, what's all this Dark Matter about?
28th May 2011, 16:58
I've always been a Newtonian reflector fan myself Drapes
because that "rainbow effect" inherent in refractors at the
image edges always bothered me a bit.
Have them new refractors gotten rid or minimised it?
28th May 2011, 17:24
Well when one first took up astronomy only research institutes and universities could afford decent sized refractors Mr Slasher, they seem to have come down in price by a huge amount recently, Newtonians were the amateur choice then mostly for financial reasons,had a ten inch F4 rich field Newtonian in the seventies,excellent instrument,the refractor is a good choice for the casual user such as meself,nephew recently moved out into the sticks and has reasonably dark skies,lot easier to hump and set up a refractor.
The whole amateur astronomy thing has changed in the time I have been out of the loop,what with digital cameras and such and gear we could only dream of becoming affordable.
As for chromatic aberration it depends how much you are willing to pay,the new type of objective lenses are called Apochromatic(sp? and seem to have solved the problem of colour fringing and are about three times the price of the traditional achromatic doublet objective,eyepieces seem to have improved a lot as well.
Sods law hasn't been a clear sky since this bloody thing landed.
Par for the course.:(
28th May 2011, 18:04
...what with digital cameras and such and gear we could only dream of becoming affordable.
Yep know what you mean Drapes.
Had a Meade 10" Schmidt-Newtonian for a while now with a
useful mag of about 510x. Apart from all the usual mod-cons
it comes with this really fancy GO TO Autostar puter system
which has a 30,000 object downloadable data base. One just
inputs time/date and location, and the thing dribbles around
its mounts and puts the object smack bang in the middle of
the eyepiece. Brilliant stuff and saves all that dicking around
with almanacs and declensions etc. The Meade is a bit of an
expensive bugger but a damn good scope.
Yeh it was chromatic aberration that put me off a bit when
my old man had a refractor in the 60s. Got my first Newt in
1972 and haven't taken much notice of refractors since, but
as you say there's been a lot of improvement.
I've taken some good pics of the Moon, Sir Jupe & Lady Saturn
as well as the Orion Neb and some shots of Mars. Might post
em one day when I get a round tuit.
28th May 2011, 18:31
You need younger eyes than mine to spot the chromatic aberration from a black hole.
28th May 2011, 20:24
Hey, Slasher, where were you with your Meade 10" when I was trying to fly an astro trip and not seeing the right bodies through my periscopic sextant??
One just inputs time/date and location, and the thing dribbles around
its mounts and puts the object smack bang in the middle of
Nav trips in the HS125 Dominie Mk1 doing astro were the bain of my life. Thank God I managed to get back home again - I'd never had made it on the V-Force!!
28th May 2011, 20:56
Bah! 'Go To' stuff is cheating,nowt wrong wi proper setting circles a good star chart and a knowledge of the night sky.:suspect::rolleyes:
29th May 2011, 04:45
...nowt wrong wi proper setting circles a good star chart and a knowledge of the night sky. :suspect::rolleyes:
Well yes of course, but I'm a bit of a lazy bastard! :\
29th May 2011, 21:10
When I was trying my luck as a V force co-pilot plotting astro fixes they used my cocked-hats as next week's navexs.
30th May 2011, 10:13
Many years ago I sent the following to Stephen Hawking:
"I have been considering the apparent disparity between the theory that the universe was created from a singularity and yet we are able to look back in time through telescopes and see galaxies moving away from us in all directions and not coming from a single point.
Could it be that there was no single 'big bang' but that the universe is being created continuously from the black holes at the centre of galaxies? That is to say all galaxies have their own singularity at their centre and are creating the solid parts of the universe piecemeal on a continuous basis and have always done so, with no distinct beginning?"
The reply from an assisitant apologised for not being able to reply to the specific point as Stephen Hawking was a busy person. Since then black holes have been confirmed at the centre of galaxies and the current theory is moving a lot toward the idea I had. I am sure many others, including Drapes, had similar ideas. When all these ideas are taken together the actual reality may well emerge. We just don't see it yet.