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jamil
27th Apr 2011, 00:56
An experienced charter pilot collides with a student pilot cessna and both aircrafts are substantially damaged and the charter passengers have all sustained injuries. While powering up for the turn charter pilot notices a Cessna piloted by the student pilot turning base, and on final approach to runway. ATC advises charter pilot to hold short and hears ATC yelling to the C172 to ‘go – around’ but oblivious to what is being said charter pilot believing that a takeoff will be completed before the Cessna 172 landspowers up the twin engines and begins his take-off roll. To charter pilot’s surprise he hears the droning of the Cessna 172 followed by darkening of the sky, and finally realises that the C172 is about to touch down. Charter pilot responds by veering suddenly to the right to avoid a collision. The left wing clips the Cessna’s right wing as it lands. What should the charter pilot do legally?

doubleu-anker
27th Apr 2011, 04:40
Find and use the services of a very good aviation lawyer. :}

FlyingKiiwii
27th Apr 2011, 05:59
With the fact that the pilot was told to "hold short" it's not a recommendation, it's an instruction, although the 172 was told to go around, there shouldn't of been a plane on the runway.

NZScion
27th Apr 2011, 06:40
Call your union rep ASAP. If you aren't in a union find a lawyer, and a heap of money.

Torque Tonight
27th Apr 2011, 14:24
ATC advises charter pilot to hold short
believing that a takeoff will be completed before the Cessna 172 lands powers up the twin engines and begins his take-off roll

Assuming this is for real, 'charterpilot' probably also needs to start looking for work outside the aviation sector (assuming he doesn't find himself in prison soon).

Jetdriver
27th Apr 2011, 15:02
As others have said, if you require proper legal advice, an internet bulletin board is not the place to obtain it. As this requirement seems to be in Australia, I am moving the subject (on a general basis) to the regional forum where you are likely to find more specific direction. This isn't a "question" best addressed to, or answered by professional pilots.

seneca208
27th Apr 2011, 19:06
Any aircraft on the ground should give way to Aircraft on short final/about to land.

SIUYA
27th Apr 2011, 21:43
Torque Tonight...

Assuming this is for real, 'charterpilot' probably also needs to start looking for work outside the aviation sector

Nope, doesn't look 'for real' to me. In fact Jamil, it looks remarkably similar to the scenario given for an assignment in the Griffith BAv Aviation Legal Studies unit in 2006, as follows:

AVN3002 AVIATION LEGAL STUDIES

AVIATION LEGAL ASSIGNMENT 2006

Students are required to write a 1500 word assignment on the following scenario, this assignment is due on the 19th May 2006 before 4pm.

An experienced charter pilot with 7 passengers at Archerfield is waiting to depart on Runway 10R for Casino. It is a busy morning with traffic arriving and departing from 2 active runways, 10R and 10L.
The control tower has advised that traffic must clear both runways as quickly as possible.

The charter pilot is cleared for an immediate take-off. As he turns onto the runway, out of the corner of his eye he observes a Cessna 172, which he knows is piloted by a student pilot on a first solo flight, on final approach. The control tower has instructed the Cessna to land on runway 10L but the charter pilot’s observations lead him to believe that the Cessna 172 may be intending to land on 10R. The charter pilot, believing he will have departed before the Cessna 172 lands and aware that there is traffic banked up behind him, proceeds to roll down the runway.

To his surprise he realises the Cessna 172 is about to land and he veers suddenly to the right in an attempt to avoid a collision. His left wing clips the Cessna 172’s right wing as it lands. Both aircraft are substantially damaged and 3 of the charter passengers suffer minor head wounds. The student pilot of the Cessna 172 suffers a fractured wrist and his Omega watch is smashed. In addition his Dell Laptop computer is damaged and suffers a hard drive failure and a cracked LCD screen. A prototype UFO aerodynamics program worth $500,000 that the student pilot has been working on is lost.

You are the student pilot in the Cessna 172.

Discuss all relevant issues in relation to your conduct

:=

MikeTangoEcho
27th Apr 2011, 22:17
Haha snap! Do your own homework!

empacher48
27th Apr 2011, 22:33
Was given this essay to write.. My only problem being how I can keep it under 5000 words??

"Organization cultures of airlines can have positive and negative consequences on their safety and financial performance. You are required to identify and describe in detail examples of airline organization cultures and illustrate the potential impact on their safety and financial performance, and explore management's use of organization as a competitive strategy."

empty_seats
27th Apr 2011, 23:00
Is this before or after the charter pilot puts in his application with Qantas? And how many years later does the student pilot find himself in Qantas?

Ozzie Mozzie
27th Apr 2011, 23:35
SIUYA ya beat me to it

No Further Requirements
27th Apr 2011, 23:51
Whoa! How slack can you get? I'd say about 10% of us here are doing some kind of higher education, but never have I seen such a blatent attempt at plagerism. Want us to write the essay for you too, dear? Do your own farking research. That's what higher education is all about. :ugh:

NFR.

YPJT
28th Apr 2011, 00:22
hahahaha - busted. I wonder if uni lecturers use the search function on PPRuNe when marking assignments? :E

SIUYA
28th Apr 2011, 00:44
NFR...

STUPID would be a better description than slack in this case I think. :ugh:

The query in post#1 really demonstrates that nothing is really foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool, and seems to make the poster a definite candidate in the nominations for the 2011 Darwin Awards. ;)

"Fool proof systems do not take into account the ingenuity of fools." -Ken Clayton

Stikybeke
28th Apr 2011, 00:50
Jamil,

1 point for trying...funny, that's the same number of posts you've made..

:oh:

clack100
28th Apr 2011, 01:10
BBC News - More arrests in India fake pilot's licence scandal (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12975481)

Jamil??