Blazing row with the wife this morning..... [Archive]

cockney steve

25th Apr 2011, 14:16

^^^^ And you recorded the GP?

Really, the OP must be sadly lacking in PR and negotiating skills :}

I'd have put it to PP-ess , that the home furnishing store is open until~ 10 PM, whereas the weather is somewhat unpredictable and seldom aligns with the window of opportunity.......

" If we go flying when it's light and suitable, dear, I'll be much more amenable to traipsing around an airless shed and may even be less grudging about parting with the amount of dosh you consider to be necessary"

Or, just TELL her you're going to indulge yourself first. :E

IO540

25th Apr 2011, 14:23

divorce is expensive, very expensive, because it is so worthwhile and ultimately so financially rewarding.........

Indeed; the other form is

Why is divorce so expensive?

Because it is worth it!

Best thing I ever did.

Jan Olieslagers

25th Apr 2011, 14:28

Not wanting to discuss the merits/worth/cost of divorce, because no two divorces are the same. But any person, and especially a partner, who wanted to divert me from a planned and announced day of flying would have to offer more than IKEA shopping as an alternative.

Pilot DAR

25th Apr 2011, 14:44

So in this tale can be found a reason to buy a plane. Either before wife, then it's already there, and not an issue, or with wife's blessing, so you can willingly give up a booking, 'cause you can fly any time!

fernytickles

25th Apr 2011, 14:46

Hopefully you have stopped at Ikea whilst en route to the airport? They sell nice throws & pillows & things that could be used to "decorate" the aircraft interior....

FleetFlyer

25th Apr 2011, 15:47

My partner understands the word 'no', just as I understand it when she says it.
We get along very well.

Also, the secret is to not marry them. I show my commitment with enough 'yesses' and don't need a contract to enforce my relationship or ruin me should it go bad.

IO540

25th Apr 2011, 16:22

Relationships do indeed involve compromise but it helps hugely if you can dig out a partner who has her own interests so she doesn't resent you having fun on your own.

Internet dating should make this far easier than it would have been years ago.

Sadly, however, even these days, too many women marry for "domestic security" (or to escape doing menial jobs) and they don't like the bloke having a life. And most men are terribly inept at spotting these types.

BEagle

25th Apr 2011, 17:23

My partner understands the word 'no', just as I understand it when she says it...

Is that as in "No, no, no.....oh god, oh god, yes, yes, yes, Yessss......aaahhh"?

Anyway, PompeyPaul, I hope you stopped at a suitable pub on the way home, then turned to the other half and said "Beer me, bitch - and you're driving home but not until I say so!"

PompeyPaul

25th Apr 2011, 17:50

Some of the responses made me lol

Jan Olieslagers

25th Apr 2011, 17:51

And herself? Lolling too? Over you or over me or over whom?

Miserlou

25th Apr 2011, 18:00

Compromise means agreeing to do what SHE wants!

Rwy in Sight

25th Apr 2011, 19:32

Jan Olieslagers,

It would be worth telling us her offering to refrain from your favorite activities. A mate of mine reject the obvious offer from his wife to join us down the pub.

Maybe a negotiation workshop would be use to some of us. BEagle has a point.
IO540 don't forget that ladies today have options.

PompeyPaul, hope you fly soon.

Rwy in Sight

Piltdown Man

25th Apr 2011, 19:44

...but did you get a shag for buying the cabinets?

PM

Biffo Blenkinsop

25th Apr 2011, 22:31

Both Mrs Blenkinsop (AKA Jasmine Skyjuice) and I are pilots. So - pas de probleme. Marry a pilot.

Mind you, Mrs B also likes horses. They're pretty much like aeroplanes - always being repaired, scary, unpredictable and just as expensive.

7of9

26th Apr 2011, 00:03

My missus loves flying so don't have the problems some of you have.............:ok::ok:

trev:}

FlyingKiwi_73

26th Apr 2011, 02:56

My wife likes flying with me but only when its nice and calm and sunny.... so i tell her i need LOADS of practice flying in the nasty stuff.

Flying with the wife can be fun but a little interesting as she considers anything past a medium turn as aerobatics and 3500ft AGL is too low.

My wife also has a great sense of humour and she knows a C172 for an hour is cheaper than a hooker.

FK_73

robin

26th Apr 2011, 07:08

Worst thing about flying the wife was that I ended up having to pay for the whole trip, the teas and bacon butties. In ten years of flying her, she never once put her hand in her pocket.

And once the divorce came along she very nearly took the aeroplane as well!

IO540

26th Apr 2011, 07:19

My wife also has a great sense of humour and she knows a C172 for an hour is cheaper than a hooker.That is a very good "down under" attitude :ok:

And once the divorce came along she very nearly took the aeroplane as well! The plane will be a matrimonial asset, unless owned by your business, but then business itself will also be valued for divorce purposes. The thoroughness of the valuation will vary, however.

This is the big catch for a businessman marrying: even a small business can easily be valued at as much as everything else put together, so the businessman comes out keeping the business (the ex wife rarely wants the business) and losing everything else. That was what I got, back in 1999, though I have since rebuilt OK.

However the ex wife cannot just point at a particular asset and demand it.

Unless there are children, in which case she more or less can do exactly that... but she is playing for high stakes because many men then just say 'sod the kids'.

I have a feeling that many men get spectacularly bad advice in these matters. Hardly suprising, since most "family law" lawyers are female and bitter man-haters (and are mostly incompetent anyway, by being too aggressive to deliver a reasonable deal) and many of the few male lawyers in that field are anti-men also. You absolutely must use a male solicitor, to have any chance. 12 years on, I have started writing up some notes on this stuff :)

tonker

26th Apr 2011, 08:42

In my miserable dating history i have actually managed to meet and date some very attractive women. In the end i actually married one who has a PPL, who likes large ridiculous cars and B&O televisions(the bigger the better). I'm still working on the girl girl thing.;)

Let your head do the wife selecting, and your balls everything else i guess.

Noah Zark.

26th Apr 2011, 12:52

When you think about it, PompeyPaul does not have much to live for.
No flying and supports Portsmouth..
Could it get any worse?

Yeah, I'll bet his other half drags him off to Ikea whenever she wants! :)

HEATHROW DIRECTOR

26th Apr 2011, 13:01

Oh dear, you lot: "THE" wife? I always refer to mine as "MY" wife, or by her name. I wonder what your wives call you? "That prat" perhaps?

Some of you sure have some poor marriages. My wife and I have been married 44 years and never had a row. She supports my hobbies and interests and I support hers. What's with the "blazing row" nonsense? Work together; accept that each has ideas that may not appeal to the other but we are all different so you have to find a compromise.

We have done everything together and sympathise greatly with those who do not...

Rwy in Sight

26th Apr 2011, 13:34

"I had everything I wanted until my wife find out"

Rwy in Sight

flyingfemme

26th Apr 2011, 13:53

I don't understand why your presence would be required for the choosing of a kitchen......not even if the house was being selected at the same time!

Wibblemonster

26th Apr 2011, 14:03

My wife asked me over the weekend when we could go flying again, she is very keen & never complains about the time I spend on flying. She certainly feels no financial impact as we have separate bank accounts!

IO540

26th Apr 2011, 15:04

Oh dear, you lot: "THE" wife? I always refer to mine as "MY" wife, or by her name. I wonder what your wives call you? "That prat" perhaps?

I agree; it is an odd way to refer to one's dearest.

Mind you, if you listen in to a fairly average group of women, they do slag off their husbands pretty badly. Maybe it is just trendy to do that but it makes one wonder why they don't simply go batting for the other side and avoid men completely.

She certainly feels no financial impact as we have separate bank accounts!
That's a good way to do it, but it works only if your wife/GF is financially independent. That's what we have, and we have a joint account for the household etc stuff. Most women (even these days) are not independent to that degree which is why most of them married in the first place: for security.

I think that a bloke with a costly hobby and a wife has the following options:

1. Have a wife who is financially independent

2. Have a wife who is extremely tolerant

3. Spend a lot of money on his wife (and then it doesn't matter whether she is 1. or 2. above)

Biffo Blenkinsop

26th Apr 2011, 15:08

a C172 for an hour is cheaper than a hooker

Blimey. It's expensive round your way. Dolly Clackett just down the road from here will sort it for a fiver.

IO540

26th Apr 2011, 15:12

Dolly.... you mean this one (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/ltra/fatgirl3.jpg)?

Wibblemonster

26th Apr 2011, 15:26

I'm very lucky I guess, she is finacially independent, owns the flat we live in, with a tiny mortgage & even offered to support me if I end up out of work.

Along with being tolerant of my hobbies, she joins in & has been to the Nurburgring several times, enjoying every minute (well apart from 165 mph on the long straight). She is looking forward to the flying trips this summer & is proud of me gaining my PPL recently. Maybe I'm lucky or maybe I picked a good girl & didn't put up with any bollox. :D

I totally agree with you on the female sport of slagging ones husband off, (most) women do not respect men, we are portrayed as idiots on television & films, just watch some of the adverts where the dad is a clown & the mum is the brains of the family. The pendulum has swung so far in the other direction that men are now seen as the weaker species, IMHO.

jxc

26th Apr 2011, 15:40

IO540 Can you fit her in your plane ? what ever floats your boat :E

IO540

26th Apr 2011, 15:56

She'd "go" in a Cessna 182 though.

That's the whole point of a 182.

Biffo Blenkinsop

26th Apr 2011, 16:01

Dolly.... you mean this one (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/ltra/fatgirl3.jpg)?

Crikey IO, it's her. New teeth though - didn't have any last time I saw her. All the better, some say.

D SQDRN 97th IOTC

26th Apr 2011, 16:16

i had an argument with my missus which just finished
last night, she asked what was on TV.
"apart from the dust" I asked?

That was when the argument started.....

flybydayuk

26th Apr 2011, 17:17

Back in the day when importing kits of the wonderful Avid Flyer/Speedwing I would warn potential purchasers of the dreaded AIDS - Aeroplane Induced Divorce Syndrome. And lo, it happened to me. Long hours building the thing and general neglect of my husbandly duties (well, some of them) were certainly part of the problem.

The upshot was me transferring (the then) G-MOTT into the ownership of one Justin (son) to prevent the wifeship from getting her hands on it.

I wonder if there was ever any younger aircraft owner owner on the CAA register? Justin was about six at the time.

GINFO Registration History | Aircraft Register | Safety Regulation (http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=reg&fullregmark=RAFV)

eharding

26th Apr 2011, 17:36

....one cancelled aircraft later and I'm at ikea buying kitchen cabinets despite CAVOK being reported almost everywhere. Extremely miffed!

Have you considered setting up a feedback forum where your wife can anonymously tell you what she thinks about your flying, and then you can (equally anonymously) respond with your thoughts on the merits of purchasing over-priced Swedish kitchen chipboard?

Obviously, sharing the results with the rest of us?

It won't help your marriage one iota, but should keep the rest of us amused and distract everybody from the price of avgas.

stickandrudderman

26th Apr 2011, 18:53

Have you considered setting up a feedback forum where your wife can anonymously tell you what she thinks about your flying, and then you can (equally anonymously) respond with your thoughts on the merits of purchasing over-priced Swedish kitchen chipboard?

Obviously, sharing the results with the rest of us?

It won't help your marriage one iota, but should keep the rest of us amused and distract everybody from the price of avgas.

And the winner of "Best post in thread" is...........:D

Monocock

26th Apr 2011, 20:03

Blimey - some of you have got a weird attitude towards your wives and your flying passion.

It's simple, you just need to be consistent with your behaviour when you have/haven't been flying. If you haven't flown for a week or two you need to perfect the miserable bastard approach, being grumpy and always moaning about never being able to fly.

When you do fly, you need to come home in the very best of moods, offering your wife the chance to have some time to herself, offer to take her out for dinner and look after the kids for an hour or two whilst suggesting she goes out and has some time to herself.

She will soon see a trend that she will want to exploit.

I have perfected this over 15 years of marriage and my wife positively forces me out of the door to go flying knowing what the result will be.

t's not unlike training a dog really

maxred

26th Apr 2011, 20:35

There are just soo many wrong answers to that:\

The mods would ban me for life:cool:

Thud105

26th Apr 2011, 22:30

It's all very simple. After she's cooked you a delightful meal you must never forget to give her a hug, a kiss and then whisper in her ear those three magic little words....
"I'm going flying".
:ok:

Deeday

26th Apr 2011, 22:44

How this blazing row came about has been left a bit sketchy, by the OP. I wonder for example:

Was your flight planned long before and did you NOTAM your wife about it?
Vice versa, had she issued well in advance a temporary restriction to procure IKEA parts?
Would that have been your first flight in months, or have you been flying Friday, Saturday and Sunday?
etc...

As many have already said, it's all about (sensible) compromise, and I definitely think that defusing is better than fire-fighting.

Whirlygig

27th Apr 2011, 06:29

...and some of you wonder why there aren't more women in GA. :}

Cheers

Whirls

IO540

27th Apr 2011, 07:30

and some of you wonder why there aren't more women in GA

One could surmise that a lot of male pilots are self centred characters. But it also means they are independent individuals.

In this modern age, why aren't there more women who are independent individuals? I know for sure there are plenty of those types around, so why don't they get into flying?

I work next to the A23 and every few seconds I see a £50k car driven by some executive-type female. And they seem just as aggressive in their driving style as the men.

stevelup

27th Apr 2011, 07:49

They mainly prefer horses to aeroplanes...

IO540

27th Apr 2011, 08:20

That's very very true where I live (Sussex; the land of horse-boxes towed by 7mpg 4x4s) but I don't think most of those are the "motivated" exec types. Most of the ones I see here are women who never had a real job and who married some bloke (any bloke, apparently) who would deliver the horse, the horse trailer, the 4x4, and a nice country pad. When my boys were little I would go to various childrens' parties at these places and the parents rarely acknowledged each other. I thought it was very sad - for their kids who will PROB75 end up with one parent. There are still many marriages today where there is a strong dependence element. What the bloke gets out of it is a mystery, as he is working his ba11s off in some exec job to bring in the 100k+ needed to prop up that whole show. He certainly won't be flying.

sickBocks

27th Apr 2011, 10:54

http://shop.moderntoss.com/images/37.jpg

stuartforrest

27th Apr 2011, 12:20

She should cost more, there is more of her to love.

stuartforrest

27th Apr 2011, 12:24

Actually I got divorced once and realised that I could have had a seriously high class hooker every weekend for the rest of my life and still saved a few quid.

She would have pretended she liked me.

She would never have moaned about me going flying.

I could have eaten cheaply in most restaurants

and I would never need to feign interest in any online shopping.

Just four benefits that spring to mind.

So what did I do, I got married again!