I had a very specific reason for joining FB - something to do with an old girlfriend. But what has happened recently has made me want to opt out without leaving the slightest trail.

This :mad:ing program is putting people in my private phone directory on my cell/mobile. :*:*:*

I have never loaded any apps, and do not have wi-fi on apart from a few moments now and then.

Now I find my Photobucket is being affected by this disease. I wanted to call something from Pprune folder and found it was the only one that had no thumbnail on the pickbutton. Trying to access this folder leaves the line at the bottom saying it's downloading stuff from F:mad:ing Facebook. WTF is going on with computers these days?


AND NO, I AM NOT WRITING - OR SHOWING FacePPruNe IN THE TEXT BOX.:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

We have been warned!

XVJ9Z3Js7Ww

That about sums it up.


I am writing f-a-c e b o o k. Facebook.


it even changed the first one which was spaced.

I had a very specific reason for joining FB - something to do with an old girlfriend.

Me too, and I susbsequently bitterly regretted having done so, partly because I met up with the aforesaid and it was the longest and most boring four day of my recent life. It also meant that all sorts of disgusting people crawled out from under the bottom of the barrel wanting to be my ´friends´. Then there were the scammers and spammers, the lonely and the lost, the saddos, weirdos and misfits and social cripples.

It took me a long time to work out how to delete, as oppose to suspend, my Farcebook account, and in the meantime my computers got some kind of Trojan virus as result of my foolishly clicking on an innocent looking link that appeared to be from someone I know.

Malignant is too mild a description.

I joined that face thing, think I've been back less than ten times since.

Oh, I did play that farm game, but then I realised I needed to be writing, not planting fake crops.

It looks like you have to adjust and update your privacy settings on the book...

Go to the top right of your screen, click Account, then Edit Friends.
Go to the left side of your screen and click Phonebook.

Loose Rivets - it might actually be your phone too. These days a lot of so-called smart phones are built with social networking integrated into the OS so that your contacts and friends are all synced across your devices and networks. It's probably popular amongst the kids (i.e. anyone younger than I) but I get uncomfortable thinking about it. I don't have a smart phone but if I had to get one I'd choose carefully.

Get out while you still can.....................:cool:

OMG!
I clicked on the above video link and my computer immediately shut down.

LOL (I think - I'm not sure . . . )

Simple and easy to use, not so sure why old folk struggle with it :ok:

It also meant that all sorts of disgusting people crawled out from under the bottom of the barrel wanting to be my ´friends´. Then there were the scammers and spammers, the lonely and the lost, the saddos, weirdos and misfits and social cripples.

Sitting here alone in Texas, I'd settle for any one of those.:p


con-pilot said:

I joined that face thing,


I know! Your face is on my phone!!

It is as Radz has said, it is all about your privacy settings. I have mine set to friends only and I get to choose my friends.

Anyone seen the movie? It's magic.

FacePlant is good for keeping up with people...

I attended my first webcast funeral yesterday...

This guy I know, very well respected in my industry, has died and his collegues arranged for the service to be webcast due to the number of significant others that could not attend due to geographical restrictions.

It was a moving ceremony, even though I was on the far side of the planet..

Don't knock it until you've tried it...
:sad:

I'll stick with FacePalm...

http://images.mylot.com/userImages/images/postphotos/2283585.gif

Thanks Radz, one will give considerable thought to your post when the bubbly wears orf.

Oooo...is that the correct shade of green?

there were the scammers and spammers, the lonely and the lost, the saddos, weirdos and misfits and social cripples.

Now look, a lot of good, decent people find JB to be a very valuable...

Sorry. Must read more carefully.

Check names on this one:
spokeo . com

May be US only. Amazed to see what names, spouses, addresses, approximate value of house and annual salary, and phone numbers it pulls up, even without paying a dime for "in depth" coverage.

Of course, searching for a name probably adds it to their database.

Gone are they days when closing the curtains provided some privacy.

On a lighter note...

Failbook.org is very, very much worth a look, you will be unsurprised at the sheer moronicness of people.:)

More utter kak from the Daily Heil :

Facebook: Some employers and psychologists say avoiding social media is suspicious | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2184658/Facebook-Some-employers-psychologists-say-avoiding-social-media-suspicious.html?ICO=most_read_module)

Facebook has become such a pervasive force in modern society that increasing numbers of employers, and even some psychologists, believe people who aren't on social networking sites are 'suspicious.'According to the article, those of us who don't have Facebook accounts are unemployable psychopaths whom nobody would want to go to bed with!

So be it .... I'm not losing any sleep!

:)

btw, as for the previous
opt out without leaving the slightest trail
as far as I know (= a psychopath non-user) that's not possible. You may not see what you've posted any more, but it's still in the servers "out there".

If you're more than 12 years of age, why would you bother?

You can always use FB under a pseudonym.

Guillaume Nomates for example.

As for me, I just have everything set to "Friends Only" and it seems to work. What does annoy me is the number of 'friends' who 'tag' me in photographs that have nowt to do with me. Then there's the annoying matter of people who 'like' a photo or page and then you have to wait ten minutes for News Feed to load the thirty large advertising posters that they liked. Doh! There must be a way to turn this feature off, but I haven't sussed it yet. :ugh:

All of the foregoing absolutely confirms my feeling that none of these Twittish or Farcebook type "social media" are for me. I have no intention of joining something which includes so many ninnies, nutters, narcissists, noseyparkers and numbskulls.

No, not when I can get all of those right here, on JB! ;)

indeed 603..

for nutjobs and narcissists, JB has the Crème de la Crème, why settle for second best.

Anyone who thinks they are protected by FB's so-called privacy settings needs to think again.

It's as well to remember that FB provides its attractive social facilities not as a public service, but for one reason only - to collect data that it can use or sell.

The only 'privacy' you get is from other FB users. Everything you post on FB becomes the copyrighted property of FB - available for them to keep, use as they wish, and sell on to other companies for combining with their own knowledge about you.

'Deleting' your data or your whole account only removes it from public view and doesn't remove FB's ownership and ability to do what they like with it.

Even registering under a false name doesn't protect you. Many other web sites have agreements with FB under which they quietly check with FB when you log into them. FB then looks to see if you have a FB cookie on your computer. If you have, FB logs your other user name and associates it with your FB name, never to be forgotten.

If you are content for this to happen, then by all means use FB and enjoy it.

My grandparents said the same things about..... the telephone! :}

In the digital age as we now have it, privacy is become a 1-way option. Once abandoned on a whim to a datasponge like FooBar, one's personal privacy likely is gone forever.

No doubt new industries will arise to rent it back to those who eventually discover the joy of freedom from endless harassments, scams, and worse -- for a regular monthly fee.

Just to take it a step further, someone with whom I had lunch the other day says that Facebook is run by the CIA. (No names!)

I would suspect thatr they certainly find it a useful source of information and misinformation.

Have the muppets who make these statements overlooked that 83 Million Facebook accounts are fake anyway?? :ugh:

Personally, when I am recruiting staff the CV's that list "Facebook" as a hobby or interest are among the first in the bin.


As for relationships, personally I'd rather a partner spent more time with me and less time posting crap on the web.

Well, who on earth wants to spend their day tapping out inane messages on a computer....


Err, oh yeah :uhoh:

Tableview dear chap.

According to the article, those of us who don't have Facebook accounts are unemployable psychopaths whom nobody would want to go to bed with!

So be it .... I'm not losing any sleep!

Spot on then. Nobody rolling over and waking you up in the middle of the night, eh? ;)


:p

Have the muppets who make these statements overlooked that 83 Million Facebook accounts are fake anyway??

That's 83 million users who wrongly imagine they can access FB anonymously.

As stated above, even if you have a 'fake' FB account, when you log on with it FB is able to associate that account with real information about you including other sites where you log in with your real identity. You have to accept cookies from FB in order to log on, and its many partner sites allow FB to use their cookie to identify you.

A 'fake' account only protects you from other FB users, not from FB or its associates and customers. FB is very happy for you to create a fake account and use it thinking you are safe. So who is the muppet?

There is a upside here in the US. President Obama has claimed that nearly 1,000,000 new jobs have been created....



.....in Farmville. :hmm:

To go back to the original post

But what has happened recently has made me want to opt out without leaving the slightest trail.

Impossible, as has been stated

This ing program is putting people in my private phone directory on my cell/mobile.

You didn't make sure that "Don't Sync" was selected when you set up FB on your phone, did you. How do I know? Because I made sure that the app didn't sync with my phone and it's never added anything.

I have never loaded any apps, and do not have wi-fi on apart from a few moments now and then.

You have. And you have allowed it access to your phone. FB will not access your phone unless the app is there. You did read the "permissions" the app wants, didn't you? You should have, they're pretty worrying now, and that's why FB has only ever been accessed via a browser on my phone. Oh, and unless you have made sure that the mobile internet is switched to "off", then it don't matter if you only use the wifi occasionally.

Now I find my Photobucket is being affected by this disease. I wanted to call something from PPRuNe folder and found it was the only one that had no thumbnail on the pickbutton. Trying to access this folder leaves the line at the bottom saying it's downloading stuff from Fing Facebook. WTF is going on with computers these days?

Gee, look at all the buttons on photobucket that have FB (and other "social networking" sites) on them, like "sign on with your FB account", "share photo on FB", etc, and even "Connect to my FB" in your profile, under "applications". Guess who clicked on one of them, probably the last one. I know I didn't, there is no link between my photobucket and my FB and it's staying that way.


Sorry, LR, but it looks like you didn't look at things properly and/or someone else has set things up on your phone/photobucket so Fäcebook has all the access it wants.


Bombay Duck

Loose Rivets - it might actually be your phone too. These days a lot of so-called smart phones are built with social networking integrated into the OS so that your contacts and friends are all synced across your devices and networks. It's probably popular amongst the kids (i.e. anyone younger than I) but I get uncomfortable thinking about it. I don't have a smart phone but if I had to get one I'd choose carefully.

Now that is silly, he still has to enter his user name and password no matter what. The phone doesn't just "connect" to his FB without the account owner physically entering the details of the account to connect to..........

I've never had anything to do with it, neither do I intend to, but I was entertained by a story in a regional newspaper the other day where some dopey female objected to a group called 'dead baby jokes', or similar.

She has "two children" of her own and wants it closed down because it's offensive and sickening and pops up on her computer.

Except, you have to sign up to that group before you can read anything! Despite the title and the warnings she probably signed up so she could get offended by it.

As said in another thread, vulcanised, never underestimate the capabilities of "stupid".

er, might i comment to our erudite Civ Eng.

"I have no intention of joining something which includes so many ninnies, nutters, narcissists, noseyparkers and numbskulls."


er, so why look at JB so often????

"I have no intention of joining something which includes so many ninnies, nutters, narcissists, noseyparkers and numbskulls."


er, so why look at JB so often????

Because it was a gentle attempt at a J - O - K - E, Mr AO ... ;)

(But thanks for the 'erudite', my mum would have been so proud ... )

Worry not about Faceblock. Having gone public, they've discovered they're desperate for money and will do anything to keep afloat. Eventually they'll do something which will be big enough to warrant someone hiring a lawyer to sue them and that 'll be that. I give 'em two years at the outside. August 2014 they'll be gone. Your Uncle Sunny told you . . .

indeed 603..

for nutjobs and narcissists, JB has the Crème de la Crème, why settle for second best.


:D Yes....sites like this and flickr do require some degree of thinking, but do like the reactiveness of feckbook.

The only value FB has it that it keeps the nutters and the saddos off the streets and away from other sites!

And JB has the crème de la crème of these people, Tableview?


EDIT:

Just realised something. If JB is the "best" of these nutters and saddos, what the hell does that make some of the people in R&N? :eek:

It would seem, HB, that your statement has a ring of truth!

I joined FB when it first started in 2004. I created a totally blank profile and left it that. In the 1st week I received 12 responses from people that had 'read' my profile and wanted to be a friend. I did not reply.
I have never touched it again, although the associated email is still extant, and I have never knowingly received any communication generated from the account for the past 8 years or so. I have a dumb phone, as I consider myself fairly smart, and FB doesn't appear to be a hellhound on my trail.

I have escaped :ok:..... I think :uhoh:

You can always use FB under a pseudonym.


Yeh, did that. I e'd a girl who had the same names and might well have been a blood relative of my one-time girlfriend. I was very polite - in fact, extraordinarily proper for me. Nothing. Not surprised.

After about two weeks, I got a message from FB, demanding a telephone number associated with my new name. They said, sometimes people get annoyed with 'Likes' etc., and they needed to etc., etc.

I was surprised by this, and wondered if the young lady had complained. I would be taken aback to find this was the case, since getting in touch is one of the main functions of FB.

(I'm now talking to several people I'd lost touch with for 40+ years thanks to the internet.)

Could it be someone put photos of themselves on a forum like this, yet still objected to someone with the name of a well known building?

Oh, my!:uhoh: I just logged into FB in my new name. I had a message, but from a pal's son. I pressed find friends, and then it hit me just how all-pervasive this soddin' program is.

First, let me say, I set it up via Expat Shield and with Private Browsing on. Now, my search for new contacts shows my old e-address and an awareness of who I am. Too scarey. Good job is was a polite message.

Hmmm......never liked the idea, I'm very sceptical of it actually, set up as a 'Fake', only so I can access another site that requires FB membership.,keep getting emails to a fake email acct from FB, I never reply

I am an absolute idiot when it comes to 'puters, so the CIA men are probably parked out front watching my every move......

Never joined as 'Me'.....lectured Son & (his) Ex Girlfriend this afternoon on the sheer folly of posting anything on FB, and if you don't want it published on the front page of the paper....don't post it!

I was never able to say why, I just felt there was something very sinister about FB, and I am no conspiracy weirdo either!!

Besides, who the f*#k wants to hear about work colleague 'Friends' and what they are doing when they get home??:confused:

Oh yeah......LR, what did the Rivetess think about you contacting old girlfriends on FB??? :eek:

Regrettably I am on FB by way of Mrs Fliegs.....there are pictures of me, and commentary on what we've been up to....but I can't help that one...

Oh, my! I just logged into FB in my new name. I had a message, but from a pal's son. I pressed find friends, and then it hit me just how all-pervasive this soddin' program is.

Use an email address that is recognised by someone, they will find you no matter what "pseudonym" you use.

"Find Friends" just checks your email/MSN/whatever contacts with the FB records. You did use a "disposable" email address instead of your "normal" email address, didn't you?

Well, the thing is, I did set it up with a new e-address, but it occurs to me I may have forgotten to switch e's on one occasion. I'd never make a criminal.

This business of wanting a telephone number is worrisome and spreading.

Google (who will produce a photo of your dwelling and directions to reach it within a quarter second of inputting your phone number) has decided it MUST have a phone number for me. So far, they do not. Hence I can not get onto my "google account" which I frankly wasn't aware I had, and hence can not post messages on my friends blogs, nor upload videos to youtube.

Going to check email at either my 'good' or 'throwaway' emails is also bringing up a screen requesting (not yet demanding) a phone number.

Sounds like a job for trac phone....

actually, if you click 'back' and then start again, it will surrender and you can have access without any number.

My number is +771234567890. I have found that most sites will accept any number as long as the format/number of digits are correct. Some validate for a correct CC and some match the CC against your IP address, in which case you make one up and hope it doen't belong to some other poor sod.

Google have never, to my knowledge, asked me for a number, and if they have I made one up. No doubt it is only a matter of time before the all-pervasive and invasive technology cross checks everything!

There was a programme last night on one of the more obscure (Sky) channels about murders which are believed to have been committed as a result of the misuse of 'social networking' sites.
True North Productions / Programmes / Documentary / Murder On The Social Network (http://www.truenorth.tv/Programmes/Documentary/motsn.htm)


FB shares drop by a further 6%:
BBC News - Facebook shares fall by 6% as lock-up period ends (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19285925)
There are concerns over Facebook's revenue streams, and whether it can make money from people using the site on mobile devices, as users move from the computer desktop version to accessing the site via mobile phone.
The company is now making less money from each user as it becomes more difficult to generate advertising revenue.


New low for Facebook shares as investors bail out - Business News - Business - The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/new-low-for-facebook-shares-as-investors-bail-out-8053997.html)
Facebook shares plumbed new depths last night ..........
Almost three months after the company's disastrous debut on the public markets, 271 million additional shares became eligible for sale yesterday, and a wave of selling pushed the stock down to almost half the float price.


The stock hit a new intra-day low of $19.69, valuing the company at $54bn (£34bn), compared to $104bn at $38 per share at its debut.
........

The Facebook flotation has gone down as one of the most disastrous in the tech industry's history. ...........

It also quickly became clear that the company's revenues were suffering because users are increasingly going to Facebook via their mobile phones, where there is less screen space than on a computer to display ads. Growth in advertising revenues has proved slower than expected, and Mr Zuckerberg has warned investors that he will not jeopardise users' loyalty by cramming the Facebook mobile app full of ads.
..........





As one comment said : "I am struggling to find some sympathy, but I can't!"

My number is +771234567890.


No it isn't! I want my fourpence back.:*


And don't tell me to press button B.

I was a FB sceptic many years ago when our son signed us up as he was going travelling for a few years. He quite reasonable pointed out that he wasn't going to send us emails and piccies of where he was travelling, as there were just too many people to keep in the loop. So we could either follow him on FB or not at all.

I used one of my 'disposable' email addresses in case I wanted rid of the whole thing, and still do - as I do with most online interactions.

Now I use FB quite extensively, specially the feature to communicate with a group of like-minded people for regular motorbike rides & activities, and other social events (dare I say it, social networking). Some who don't want to be on FB can still get the email updates (an email update goes to another 'blind' email account, and at server-level this account forwards the email on to others) and it saves me sending multiple emails.

I find it very useful, and I have no interest in befriending people I don't know or playing online games of any sort.

I even lightly mentor some younger friends (actually, children of friends my age) through personal messaging on FB rather than by email - they interact in this world, and when they want some feedback from someone they feel has been there, done that (even if he is old and staid and did it all wrong) they are comfortable in this environment.

I am careful with tel numbers, etc. but the world already knows so much about me through my store loyalty cards, credit cards and anywhere else I leave footprints and fingerprints it doesn't bother me much.

And it's not only FB you have to beware of:

Gold Coast Breaking News :: News | goldcoast.com.au | Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia (http://tools.goldcoast.com.au/stories/53323450.php)

HACKERS overseas have stolen around 500,000 credit card numbers from Australian businesses, netting more than $25 million in fraudulent transactions.

Australian businesses were targeted by the scammers, who obtained about half a million credit card numbers, the Australian Federal Police (AFP) says.
"The compromise is believed to have involved approximately 500,000 credit cards and resulted in more than $25 million in fraudulent transactions," the AFP said in a statement on Friday.

Facebook shares plumbed new depths last night ..........
Almost three months after the company's disastrous debut on the public markets, 271 million additional shares became eligible for sale yesterday, and a wave of selling pushed the stock down to almost half the float price.

Well - perhaps less than two years (see Post 40)!

I arrived in China before Facebook even existed, and FB is forbidden here, so I never had access... I don't feel I miss something, but maybe that's because I have never used it.

Even though I don't know FB, the fact the chinese government forbid it pushes me to think FB is a good thing, could be wrong...

It has it's uses, KAG, but in reality you ain't missing too much.

Faecesbook can do what they like witrh your photos.

Instagram Can Soon Sell Your Photos Without Permission, Payment, Or Even Notification By Addy Dugdale (http://www.fastcompany.com/user/addy-dugdale)

|December 18, 2012
All your photo are belong to us, says the Facebook-owned photo-sharing site.

Instagram Can Soon Sell Your Photos Without Permission, Payment, Or Even Notification | Fast Company (http://www.fastcompany.com/3004094/instagram-can-soon-sell-your-photos-without-permission-payment-or-even-notification)

Oooo, errr.

An old chum from my childhood recently posted some pics of me cuddling her in the Harbor Lights at Walton. I'd forgotten about that incident, but there opposite, was the Rivetess cuddling her then boyfriend.

Now, the thing is, I may not wish it to be known I was there on that day. I may not even wish it to be known I cuddled girlies. But there I am, and Bumface can tell the world, and sell my picture to the major papers!

How will I ever live down the fact I've changed the world? How can I live with the fact nothing will be the same after that boozy lunch? One must obviously fall on one's sward for altering history.

Please don't all gasp at once at the horrors this could unleash, or the vacuum could deprive us all of oxygen and may well fulfill the Mayan prophesies.

On the other hand, it might be that no one would give a poo.

it might be that no one would give a poo.

I'll sign up for that.

Faecesbook can do what they like witrh your photos.


That's I post nothing there.

A few years ago I joined Farcebook to follow a friend's adventures whilst they were overseas. In time I was spotted by people who wanted me to be their "friend" even though we had never been what I would call real friends in real life. 'Twould be rude to refuse thought I, so I agreed. In truth, I now suspect that some of them were simply in a contest to have the highest number of friends :rolleyes:.

In time things became too complicated. People were telling me what they had for breakfast every damn day, and the overload of trivia became impossible to tolerate. I simply cancelled the account and turned my back on it.

I've since rejoined with another variation of my name - I need it to keep in touch with a special interest group which would otherwise be out of reach altogether. However I'm keeping my head below the parapet. No friends are asked for or accepted, and very little information about myself is available.

It's quite peaceful. I almost feel in charge of things again, and that's how I intend to keep it this time .... :ok:

and the overload of trivia became impossible to tolerate.

JB must really get on your nerves, then! :ok:

It seems some people don't agree about FB's rights, or those of the company behind the issue.


Instagram forced to revise user rules after boycott... | Stuff.co.nz (http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/8103361/Instagram-forced-to-revise-user-rules-after-boycott)

Facebook charges $100 to message Mark Zuckerberg - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mark-zuckerberg/9795874/Facebook-charges-100-to-message-Mark-Zuckerberg.html)

Words don't fail me, but the type of words that would not get me banned could not express my opinion of this spotty self-obsessed megalomaniac.