Leaving the Service?

[Foxache Radar]

Quick question, ladies and gents, when can you officially ("legally") start paid work with another organisation on leaving the service? Day 1 as a civvy or during terminal?

Cheers

FR

PS Tried finding out today through official sources to no avail.

[Rigga]

Officially, I believe, you can start with the acceptance of your declared intention from your Boss (or is it Station?)

Legally, you can start anytime but you should keep the Taxman informed.

[Sven Sixtoo]

You can be employed elsewhere during terminal leave. With the COs permission, you can be employed during any annual leave you still have. I sent a formal letter requesting permission. I got no reply. I took that as approval.



Sven

[mrmrsmith2]

was in 1995 but didn't leave officially till 22 sept though was working in early Aug with new employer, made for a nice two wage month in Sept. Can't see it being any different today, just took a while for tax office to sort it out, though if memory serves me right wasn't a problem. Best of luck in the real work, of no guard duties and only work late if you get overtime he he :D

[teeteringhead]

..... and it can be quite pleasant getting paid twice for the same month :) ..... until you see how much tax you've paid :{

[chopd95]

I left in '75 from High Wycombe, had an excellent admin sergeant (remember those?), had been with him in a sunny place in the med, from where I had been posted back for a few months before departing.
"Sir, you do not want to be here and we do not need you to be here, so, you have 7 days leave , we give you a leave pass for a week, starting now, you phone me in 7 days time, tell me you are alive, I give you a further 7 dayl leave starting then......etc. worked a dream !!
Rather suspect those guys were better than JPA ?!

[Foxache Radar]

Thanks for the replies guys, very helpful.

[minigundiplomat]

An alternative is to work the time for free, then collect a golden hello when your GRT is over*.

*Best agreed prior to commencing 6 weeks unpaid work. All our lawyers are proper lawyers, and you get to keep 100% of the compensation, apart from a small percentage kept back to defend the TV frontman from family windmilling charges. Shares can go down in value as well as up. Payment protection is a licenced name and does not necessarily endow holders with any protection, regardless of payment.

[Winchweight]

I have just done it. I PVR'd then used my resettlement to "learn the ropes" for my new job in Spain, notionally unpaid, although I received an advance of my removals fees and disturbance package (a relocation grant from new employer)

Once I was on my final leave and terminal leave etc I received my first pay packet with a golden hello!

All taxed though... :{

So for 2 months I received double pay (3 if you include the relocation grants)

If you want to do this route there is a form you need to get from the Education Centre, which you and your new employer sign which states you will not receive any payment during your work experience / induction training period as it is deemed to be part of resettlement and therefore still paid military service.

[Bladdered]

Dont forget that for the period you are being paid in your new job and still being paid by the RAF, you can claim back an element of national insurance, which of course you will be paying twice.

[Pontius Navigator]

You can take paid employment at any time during your career provided you have your bosses permission and it does not affect your career.

It is more usual for OR to get additional jobs. In Ascension one or two telecoms engineers worked for Cable and Wireless when they were off duty and earning, IIRC, £20/hr tax-free even.

At Finningley two nav instructors were also picture framers.

Now you are not supposed to take paid employment during resettlement but that does not sit with your right to work during your service and also who knows?

[obnoxio f*ckwit]

Arrange your leave/resettlement etc so you have it all in a big lump at the end. Then crack on with your new job when you like. Once you have handed in your 1250 and cleared off station for the last time no-one really cares what you do so enjoy the double pay! I managed 7 weeks of it, but as a previous poster commented make sure you keep some back for the tax man as you will probably underpay.

[The Old Fat One]

In 2003 I worked for the RAF and MOD (apparently two organisations known to each other) with an overlap of seven months. Payment from both bodies being totally normal.

As others have pointed out, I got permission from the Staish (in the form of a memo from OC Admin - a very very nice lady!) for the QR that allows you to work during your leave if it does not affect your service role.

With the help of WO PSF (about the most professional bloke I ever met in the RAF) I rolled up every bit of leave and resettlement I could find and with the help of my Sqn Boss got to take it all without a gap.

The only obstruction was the Station Resettlement Officer who said I was breaking in the rules. He was wrong and I worked round him.

Last Day at Work for the RAF 15 Nov 2002
First day paid by MOD 4 Nov 2002
Last day paid by RAF 13 May 2003.

Kerching

None of this would have been achieveable without a great deal of help and assistance from people in key positions, so the moral of the story is pretty clear.

PS The taxman does not give a toss where you work as long as you fill in your tax return correctly.

[AR1]

Times change of course, but during my resettlement the papework stated quite clearly that I was being paid by the RAF and could not recieve money for any work during this period.

So I didn't - I got paid the day after that period.

Cashback...

[obnoxio f*ckwit]

Times change of course, but during my resettlement the papework stated quite clearly that I was being paid by the RAF and could not recieve money for any work during this period.

And so did mine, but like so many others I ignored that piece of trivia and got on with my new career.

PSF at my last station also very good, one of the SACs there ensured that I took every single day that I was entitled to, and sorted all of the JPA requirements and leaving paperwork for me. All I had to do was clear, bugger off and start my new job.

[Lyneham Lad]

Out of sight, out of mind was the attitude I took. On an engagement to age 55, approaching my 43rd birthday I had a moment of epiphany and decided there had to be more to life than putting a uniform on every day. Brushed up my CV, looked at local industries and was fortunate to quickly be offered a position by a multi-national company in the hydraulics industry. Having received a written offer of employment, I trotted up to SHQ, spoke with the Chief Clerk (and the relevant desk at Innsworth), put my PVR in and was told "six months, sunshine". No amount of persuasion on my part would budge them. This was in late Nov. Hmmm.

Working backwards from the six-month date and putting together the resettlement course 28 days, the terminal leave 28 days, my annual leave entitlement, Easter grant etc etc, I came up with a date in mid Feb. Wrote to the HR Director at my potential new employer and told him the bad news about no release until late May but went on to say that the good news was I could actually start in mid Feb by working my resettlement course as 'work experience', ditto for terminal leave etc. Much to my delight, he decided to hold the position open for me. The week prior to the magic date I began clearing, handed my uniform in on the Thursday, took the Friday off as I considered I was owed at least a day off after 25 years and started work on the Monday. For 3 months I was 'dual-salaried' - very nice indeed.

[Rigga]

Left in 1999.
Started work for new Co. 9th June
Ended work for RAF. 19th Aug

No issues and tax man informed - I took it as a 60% bonus for a couple of months.