Dominie Retirement

[TEEEJ]

A last chance to see the Dominie before retirement.

All times local.

'Start date/time: 18/01/2011 12:10 UTC
End date/time: 18/01/2011 13:40 UTC
Activity period: null
Lower height limit: 010
Upper height limit: 050

FORMATION TRANSIT BY 6 MIL JET ACFT AND PHOTOGRAPHIC CHASE ACFT. THE FORMATION WILL FORM UP IN VCY OF 5302N 00029W (CRANWELL AD) AND THEN ROUTE:
5302N 00029W (CRANWELL AD)1220 HR
5240N 00010E (WISBEACH)1230 HR
5253N 00047W (BELVOIR CASTLE)1244 HR
5328N 00100W (DONCASTER SHEFFIELD AD)1255 HR
5350N 00045W (HOLME ON SPALDING-MOOR)1302 HR
5342N 00027W (HUMBER BRIDGE)1307 HR
5315N 00010W (BAUMBER)1317 HR
5314N 00032W (LINCOLN CATHEDRAL)1320 HR
5302N 00029W (CRANWELL AD)1330 HR
HGT AND ROUTE ARE APRX AND MAY CHANGE DUE TO WX OR OTHER
REQUIREMENTS. 11-01-0065/AS1'

Another NOTAM has been issued for the 20th January. Additional info for scheduled flypasts on the 19th.

Dominie's practice flypast 10/01/2011 (http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=30110)

'Wednesday 19th Jan - 6 ship Dominie formation overhead RAF Wyton 13.00L at 500ft. Route - over Huntingdon - over Wyton - on to RAF Marham.'

Dominies flypast (http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=30259)

'Not sure what interest there may be of this, but a planned flypast of 3 Dominies for today has been postponed due to low cloud until Wed 19th Jan.
They will flypast RR sites in Derby at 11.15, Ansty (Coventry) at 11.23 and Filton at 11.49 on wednesday'


'Start date/time: 20/01/2011 10:55 UTC
End date/time: 21/01/2011 12:10 UTC
Activity period: 1055-1210
Lower height limit: 000
Upper height limit: 050

FORMATION TRANSIT BY 6 MIL JET ACFT. THE FORMATION WILL FORM UP IN
VCY OF 5302N 00029W (CRANWELL AD) AND THEN ROUTE:
5302N 00029W (CRANWELL AD)1105 HR
5235N 00022E (DOWNHAM MARKET)1123 HR
5239N 00033E (MARHAM AD)1128 HR
5310N 00038E (OVER THE SEA)1134 HR
5306N 00010W (CONINGSBY AD)1143 HR
5328N 00010W (VCY THORGANBY, LINCOLNSHIRE)1149 HR
5323N 00032W (VCY CAENBY CORNER, LINCOLNSHIRE)1153 HR
5302N 00029W (CRANWELL AD)1200 HR
21 JAN IS RESERVE DAY. HGT AND ROUTE ARE APRX AND MAY CHANGE DUE TO WX OR OTHER REQUIREMENTS. 11-01-0069/AS1'

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5041/5363552523_fd4c0843a4.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5363552523/)
DSC_0104DOMINIE (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5363552523/) by llihmot (http://www.flickr.com/people/40812808@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5128/5363552521_8ec743f0a1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5363552521/)
DSC_0013DOMINIE (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5363552521/) by llihmot (http://www.flickr.com/people/40812808@N06/), on Flickr

Please feel free to add your images. Remember maximum image size is limited to 850 wide (850x850).

http://www.pprune.org/spectators-balcony-spotters-corner/410931-new-sizes-your-pics.html

Thanks.

TJ

[Tankertrashnav]

If I look up from where I am sitting I can see a picture of myself standing in front of XS710 at Stradishall, together with 9 other guys on my nav course.

Cant believe that pic was taken 40 years ago. Wish I still looked as good as the Dominie!

[camelspyyder]

Could be a five ship - Hopefully the one of the Doms that needs some dents knocked out will be ready... something to do with the number of gulls it hit on Friday I think:eek:

cs

[esa-aardvark]

Funny enough saw an 'original' Dominie aka dh89
yesterday headed towards Napier (NZ). Maybe this one

http://www.croydonaircraft.com/Images/DH89B_Dominie.jpg

[Guzlin Adnams]

Pity they couldn't have included Stradishall in the flypast. I'm selfish as it's just up the road from me. Saw many photo's of the place when at Jock Whitehouses place in Hundon, the guy who alongside Spencer Adams put Strads history into print.

[Dominator2]

Despite Dominie XS737 having a multiple bird strike on Friday the ac is serviceable and available for the 6 ac photo shoot on 18 Jan 11. A testament to this venerable aircraft. Despite it being expensive to operate it's robust construction is still more appropriate to military aviation than some of it's modern replacements.

[Dengue_Dude]

What a horrible little aeroplane . . .

Still, it gave sterling service to the RAF for so many years.

Rust in Peace

I think my feet have finally thawed out after the last Functional.

[NutLoose]

Perchance when it visits RR Derby could it flypast EGNX East Mids as well enroute so I could get some piccies........... if you don't ask you dont get :D

[tezzer]

Just been over here, right on time in East Yorks, bye ladies !

Another fleet bites the dust !

[Jobza Guddun]

Just overflown Guddun Palace, very well flown formation folks.

Guess we'll be looking out for a Nimrod R1 soon as well...:mad:

[2Planks]

Never again to smell that special aroma: a mixture of sweat, fear and chemical toilet fluid!!

[BEagle]

Never good to hear of a fleet retiring with no sign of a replacement:

Vulcan
PR9
Nimrod
Harrier

All had specific capabilities, whether strategic bombing, high level flexible photo reconnaissance (and no, drones have not taken over completely because they cannot go everywhere the PR9 could), maritime patrol or VTOL.

And now it's the end of the Dominie.

Back at the time of the 1977 Silver Jubilunacy flypast at Finningley, 12 raspberry ripple Learning Command aeroplanes were about to launch for a practice from Leeming.

"Why have some of those Dominies got grey noses?", enquired some visiting VSO who'd been let out of the MoD Box and had wandered oop north to watch the events.

"Because, sir, some of those Dominies are Jetstreams. If you look carefully, you'll see they've also got propellers!" announced some Spec Aircrew mate who wasn't totally impressed with the niff-naff and triv associated with the whole thing....:\

[Geehovah]

20 Mar 74, XS734, Passenger Familiarisation prior to Nav School.

Can't say I enjoyed every one of my sorties in the Dominie but it definitely gave good service to Her Majesty.

Ah well, another of the types I've flown destined to be a Gate Guardian.

:D

[Biggus]

Gate guardian?

I doubt it - where?

[Geehovah]

Robin Hood International of course!

[Biggus]

I doubt they would be interested, just something else to be vandalised by the youf of today...

[reynoldsno1]

Loved flying in The Dom - the Decca was a pain and screwed my eyes, but it was a fantastic astro platform - and nice and comfy....

[Hairbus]

Just seen 3 fly past my study window close to EMA. Very nice sight.:ok:

[XFTroop]

I suspect that there are more Navs declaring fond memories for the Dom than pilots:)
I am one such, having been exposed to it's delights on three separate occasions; on 125 course at 1 ANS Stradishall 69-70, 155 Staff N course Craners 76 and 394 Nav refresher at Finningley in 84.
I must say the change from chugging around the skies in the Varsity doing Basic Nav on 2 ANS at Gaydon to jetting about the stratosphere in the Dom was a bit of a culture shock. Trying to get two pre-comp'd 3 star astro fixes in during a sortie was a bit of a challenge ( they had to be pre-comp'd at flt planning as doing the bl**dy sums used to take longer than the sortie lasted as I recall).Any way, fond memories; sad to see them go.
Tankertrashav: snap on your pickie in front of XS710. got one just like it in front of me right now. Perchance you on 125 at strad? PM me if so.
XFT

[Vertico]

Beags,

It's obvious, mate. The politicos have decided we are going to withdraw from our role as World (or even just Commonwealth) policeman. Therefore, we don't need fancy jets. Lots of boots on parade, yes - it brings in £Zillions from the tourists in London. As for the future of the RAF, forget it. Turning into a (mini-)clone of the the RNethAF. At least they don't grumble about separation and turbulence - 20 years on the same Sqn, on the same base!

When will some politico have the guts to announce the new strategy? Oh, sorry, I forgot: we've just had the all-purpose SDSR.

[NutLoose]

Ladies, Gentlemen,

Thank you for the pass down East Midlands Runway this morning, please find enclosed some photos, small to view and larger versions of the images linked for you to print off if involved in the flyby or simply wish to have them as a reminder.

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff321/taylortony/Aviation/Dominie/DominieretirementflypastEGNX19Jan2011small.jpg

Larger image, but I can go bigger if needed.

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff321/taylortony/Aviation/Dominie/DominieretirementflypastEGNX19Jan2011.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff321/taylortony/Aviation/Dominie/DominieretirementflypastEGNXEastMidlands19Jan2011Small.jpg

Larger Image

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff321/taylortony/Aviation/Dominie/DominieretirementflypastEGNXEastMidlands19Jan2011.jpg


http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff321/taylortony/Aviation/Dominie/framedbyContrailsDominieEGNX19Jan2011Small.jpg


Larger Image

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff321/taylortony/Aviation/Dominie/framedbyContrailsDominieEGNX19Jan2011.jpg

[Tankertrashnav]

Tankertrashav: snap on your pickie in front of XS710. got one just like it in front of me right now. Perchance you on 125 at strad? PM me if so.
XFT

You've got it - also 125. Trying to work out which one you are. Check your PMs. Btw eyesight let me down - it's 713 on my pic!

TTN

[red 5]

Spot on time at 12:41 over Wyton, very nice.

[50+Ray]

Piccies bring back fond memories of my last two years in uniform. A comfortable seat, 950 hours including some pleasant European excursions, and exemptions from the CAA towards a licence - bargain!
Good value aircraft for nearly 49 years(?)
R

[TEEEJ]

Revised NOTAM for today

H0098/11: Formation flying will take place
Q) EGTT/QWVLW/IV/M/W/000/050/5314N00026W028
FORMATION TRANSIT BY 6 MIL JET ACFT. THE FORMATION WILL FORM UP INVCY OF 5302N 00029W (CRANWELL AD) AND THEN ROUTE:
5302N 00029W (CRANWELL AD)1059 HR
5249N 00008W (SPALDING)1107 HR
5254N 00047W (BELVOIR CASTLE)1114 HR
5338N 00043W (VCY LUDDINGTON)1127 HR
5310N 00006E (VCY SPILSPY)1140 HR
5306N 00010W (CONINGSBY AD)1143 HR
5328N 00011W (BINBROOK)1149 HR
5323N 00032W (VCY CAENBY CORNER, LINCOLNSHIRE)1153 HR
5302N 00029W (CRANWELL AD)1200 HR
21 JAN IS RESERVE DAY. HGT AND ROUTE ARE APRX AND MAY CHANGE DUE TOWX OR OTHER REQUIREMENTS.
11-01-0069/AS1LOWER: Surface, UPPER: 5,000 Feet AMSL
FROM: 20 Jan 2011 10:50 GMT TO: 21 Jan 2011 12:10 GMT
SCHEDULE: 1050-1210

TJ

[T-21]

My late father flew Dominies at the RAF College of Air Warfare,the aircraft being based at Strubby. He first flew them in March 1966 and RAFCAW had XS 710,732,733,734,735 and 736 on strength initially. Sad to see it go but what an incredible service to the RAF these machines have given.

[Valiantone]

Sad to see the Dominie has now gone. I will miss watching them circuit bashing at Waddington when I'm up that part of the country.

Although they only bought 20 aircraft, it must be one of only a few training aircraft to have served for such a long period without ever suffering a single loss during its career.

Hopefully, the survivors will find new homes and not end up in the smelter.

V1

[brokenlink]

Concur with you red 5, cracking formation over wyton yesterday.

[camelspyyder]

Cracking flypast today at Cranwell - right on time over the massed TV and specialist press.

Compliments to all on D Flt for a display of formation flying the Reds would have been proud of.

Thanks too to the Serco guys for getting all the jets servicable (especially the one we broke last week at Waddo)

CS:ok:

NB. Should be on Look North and Calendar tonight.

[Top Bunk Tester]

Just watched the Calendar VT, think the room got very dusty suddenly. :{

Well done to all involved, very evocative.

And an even better VT on Look North, glad I've got Sky and could watch these pieces.

[TEEEJ]

BBC video

'Farewell flight for RAF's Dominie aircraft'

BBC News - Farewell flight for RAF's Dominie aircraft (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-12244477)

TJ

[ZeBedie]

Thanks TEEEJ - nice report, that.

[Dengue_Dude]

. . . "powerful Vipers" ????!!!

I felt the tears dribbling down my leg with those cockpit views . . .

[Beancountercymru]

" The Hawker Siddley Dominie" Surely it was bought as the DH125?

[Sgt.Slabber]

Don't what they were "bought" as, before my time, but the I/D plate shown at 01:19 on TEEEJ's link clearly reads, "HAWKER SIDDELEY AVIATION LTD HATFIELD ENGLAND". :(

[camelspyyder]

ITV version here:

Yorkshire Regional News | Calendar - ITV Local (http://www.itv.com/yorkshire/)

BFBS TV item here:

RAF's oldest aircraft, the Dominie retires | British Forces News (http://www.bfbs.com/news/uk/rafs-oldest-aircraft-dominie-retires-43162.html)

CS

[ExAscoteer]

"The Hawker Siddeley Dominie. Surely it was bought as the DH125?"

Hawker Siddeley acquired De Havilland Aircraft in 1960, the year before the 125 project was started. However the old legacy name and the 'DH' designation was used during the development phase of the project. After the aircraft went into full production (the first customer airframe was delivered in September 1964, the first Dominie XS709 'M' being delivered on 30 Dec 1964), the name was changed to 'HS 125'.



Sad to see them go, I really enjoyed my 1000+ hours on type.

[Algy]

Nice job by the BBC, although it's not often you hear the expression "high-powered Viper jet engines".

[TEEEJ]

No problem, ZeBedie.

TJ

[ShyTorque]

Well, that's the black painted ones gone. Good job they've still got the white ones in a secret airbase near London.

[Craven Moorhed]

Sad to see the old girl go; I generally loved my time down the back of the Dom, facing backwards, being taught (bullied) by Uncle Dick & Pod, trying to figure out where I was from what only ever resembled Garfields ar$e on the Echo 190 !

'cut off, 3 miles, CLIMB !' ah, bugger, radar in stby mode !!

Great flypast too, hope a few ales were sunk at the wake ?

[Dihaz]

I've always wondered where aircraft go after retirement from the Force.
Where are these going, hope not the chopper! :-/

[Brewers Droop]

Goodbye old girl.

Fond (I think) memories of convincing myself the orange radar soup was some town or target. After 20 years I´ll finally admit I usually didnt have a clue what the radar picture was saying, usually hoping beyond hope that the TANS hadn´t gone off on one and sneaking a look at the same time for the Trent power stations through the tiny curtain gap.

Also, chilling as Nav 2 and doing the "accidental kick" under the table when you realised your mate on Nav 1 might miss an important altitude call or something. Normally followed by a whack around the head by the instructor. And by god, my ex Phantom mate instructor had a good right hook........

And I can still remember the smell of the Finningley aircrew feeder at some godforesaken early hour.

Fond memories of a faithful steed.

[fergineer]

Fond memories as both a trainee and instructor on the Dom.......good training in airmanship for sure for the Air Engineers..... Good guys flying them and mending them. Fondly remember assymetric heated socks!!!!! Those that were there would remember.

[Old Photo.Fanatic]

At the risk of being self serving.
Perhaps I should have include my Photo Tribute thread (See page 5 this forum)
As a post within this thread.!!!!
Mods please remove this post if you feel I maybe out of order for any reason.
OPF

[Biggus]

I was only ever a student on the Dominie, but my most vivid memory was the Pole Hill recovery from high level into Finningley.




You had to make sure you packed all your nav kit away, or secured it, before you started the descent, or you would end up wearing it... Good times, so long ago!

[4PON4PIN]

Stradishall Adv Nav Trng Cse Sep-Nov '68. I remember the nigh impossible "activity" requirement for Strad-Duxford-Wyton- 53N 01E. Compass comparison, fix, alteration of heading, revised eta. The Decca fix with oggliometers whizzin' around like good 'uns due close spacing of the red,yellow,green(?). The 3 sectors couldn't have been more than a few minutes each as I recall. Hardly time to sharpen your 4H.!!
On one Airways Navex, took a shuftee at the "cloud and clonk" (CCWR) and thought I'd avert a near catastrophy by giving an immediate 60 degree alteration of course to avoid a monstrous Cu Nim. The clonk in fact was across my shoulders as the instructor used my straight-edge to emphasise that I was looking at Istres harbour as the dish was on full downwards tilt.
Quelle Plonqueur!! :O

[ExAscoteer]

"My most vivid memory was the Pole Hill recovery from high level into Finningley."

Decimal 7 Mach converting to 280 KIAS, IIRC, Idle/Idle Airbrakes out - you could get somewhere between 12000-15000 fpm RoD. Cracking fun at night - and certainly made the Stude(s) sit up and take notice!

[Dengue_Dude]

Apart from the low levels, the POL recovery was the best bit - that was fun.

[fincastle84]

Having spent a lazy 2.5 years relaxing at Cranners '66 - '69 learning how to navigate on the Varsity, I never quite caught up with the Dominie at Strad. It was with great relief that I was posted to Shacks!

RIP faithful lady.

[The Gorilla]

Oh yes the Pole Hill recovery with the pressurisation on the dump valve could make or break an Eng stude! We did ours into Waddo as Applied Flt had bolt holed there in early 89 whilst Finningley’s runway was resurfaced.

I used to love the final approach past Lincoln Cathedral at night because by that stage the beasting from your instructor was over. Little did I know that eventually I would be a Flt Eng on E3D’s, the sight always filled me with a warm feeling even on four hour P sorties!!

Ahh nostalgia!!
:):)

[Thatch]

Thanks Nutloose, I was in the Dominie on your left so appreciate the larger images.

If you look at this link there are some shots from inside the formation

Pixstel - Dominie (http://www.pixstel.com/LB212.html)

Regards

Neil

[Dominator2]

The Dominie flypast went to plan and looked very professional. Once again, however, the crew that actually led the formation recieved no recognition by the RAF or the media. Andy Neal and Jim Crowley were the lead pilot and nav who got the formation to the right place at the right time. As you say the rest of D Flt did an outstanding job in being so smooth. Who would believe you could do such a thing with a 45 year old business jet.

[Dengue_Dude]

Andy Neal and Jim Crowley were the lead pilot and nav who got the formation to the right place at the right time

What?? They'd already stripped out the navkit . . . in that case they DID do a briliant job. :rolleyes: ;)

[camelspyyder]

With their total age of 120, I was amazed they remembered the way to the aeroplane, let alone how to fly and nav it.

Well done both.

CS

[TEEEJ]

Lovely air shots, Neil (Thatch).

Superb formation flying. Congratulations to all for a very fitting tribute to the Dominie retirement. A special mention to the ground crew who kept the paint work immaculate. The mirror finish was amazing! :D :ok:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5287/5367779210_24b57284c4_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5367779210/)
DSC_0136-DOMINIE (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5367779210/) by llihmot (http://www.flickr.com/people/40812808@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5290/5367779216_b996391c58_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5367779216/)
DSC_0033-DOMINIE (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5367779216/) by llihmot (http://www.flickr.com/people/40812808@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5170/5381114017_ef67e24b1e_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5381114017/)
DSC_003-DOMINIE (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5381114017/) by llihmot (http://www.flickr.com/people/40812808@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5007/5381114021_5320417d33_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5381114021/)
DSC_0225-DOMINIE (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5381114021/) by llihmot (http://www.flickr.com/people/40812808@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5128/5381114029_24e7115e3a_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5381114029/)
DSC_0131-DOMINIE (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5381114029/) by llihmot (http://www.flickr.com/people/40812808@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5207/5381114031_18516d97f0_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5381114031/)
DSC_0064-DOMINIE (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5381114031/) by llihmot (http://www.flickr.com/people/40812808@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5164/5381114039_9f8ab2af6c_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5381114039/)
DSC_0088-DOMINIE (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5381114039/) by llihmot (http://www.flickr.com/people/40812808@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5169/5381120921_d6d4b14766_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5381120921/)
DSC_0035-DOMINIE (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5381120921/) by llihmot (http://www.flickr.com/people/40812808@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5127/5381120913_ab298324e9_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5381120913/)
DSC_0074-DOMINIE-3-SHIP (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5381120913/) by llihmot (http://www.flickr.com/people/40812808@N06/), on Flickr

Last one down!

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5044/5381114013_141ca2abf2_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5381114013/)
DSC_0110XS731-LAST-ONE-DOWN (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40812808@N06/5381114013/) by llihmot (http://www.flickr.com/people/40812808@N06/), on Flickr

Thanks for looking.

TJ

[Geehovah]

Well done Nik Nak.:ok: Shame you missed my village en route (but we were well off track). Would have loved to see the formation on the day

[mustpost]

Quick pop in and out from a civvy, thanks all you guys for overflying my little cottage and village in East Lothian with such accuracy over the years, every week/year exactly the same heading..:D

[99christoph382]

I was at Stradishall when the first Domine came in. Soon after, one did a wheels up at Manston which is a long pub type story. I was part of the initial rescue crew but which A/C was it ?

[langleybaston]

Preparing the Met. for the 6-ship landaways from Finningley to Gib. was very nerve racking .......... not many allowable divs. what the tension with Spain, and the obs. from the possible divs were, shall we say, not to British standards ..... as for their TAFS!
Not much info from the Atlantic in those days ...... satellite was only interpreted for us by HQ and the resultantant cartoon issued.

I didn't relish the go/nogo discussions with OCOps [or was it still OCFlying in those days?]

Even if nothing else, it was an expensive failure if the trip was scrubbed enroute.

I don't think I caused any of those, but it was a close-run thing.

[reynoldsno1]

Jim Crowley

.. are we talking former 13 Sqn P9 Canberra and 208 Sqn Bucc nav here ...?? No wonder they were on time in the right place :ok:

[retread]

The very same I understand!

[MPN11]

My late father flew Dominies at the RAF College of Air Warfare,the aircraft being based at Strubby. He first flew them in March 1966 and RAFCAW had XS 710,732,733,734,735 and 736 on strength initially. Sad to see it go but what an incredible service to the RAF these machines have given.

Ahhh ... I probably told him what to do a few times, then! :cool:
Strubby ATC, 65-67.

I do remember the Strubby Nav staff saying the "VC-5" didn't have enough legs to get the Staff N/Spec N students properly lost, but it was undoubtedly more comfortable than the Canberra B2s they replaced.

God, I'm getting old ... we used to get a sgt pilot fly up from Chivenor every weekend in a Meteor to see his lady-friend. Amazingly, I can still remember his name and his c/s [63]. Now where did I put the car keys?

[T-21]

Hello MPN11,
PM sent

[threepointonefour]

There's a very in-depth article on the Dominie at GlobalAviationResource.com (http://www.globalaviationresource.com/reports/2011/dominie.php)

[TEEEJ]

Now up for sale!

Tail Numbers XS712, XS727, XS728, XS730, XS731, XS737 & XS739.

Disposal Services Authority (http://www.edisposals.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Disposals-Public-Site/en_US/-/GBP/ViewProductDetail-Start;pgid=MieqQ4wkQg8000ArvQ_8K1sp0000R7nJy2aN;sid=5odrTSlE BoHwT2QLFJ57X4GEM0qo0_yJJRk=?ProductUUID=vwvAqBIQQ.YAAAEtyTx Jy_HA&CatalogCategoryID=VaLAqBELPagAAAED8GeasfoP&JumpTo=OfferList)

TJ

[Al R]

TEEEJ,

Doesn't look as if they're flying off the shelves, how much are they up for? Not sure what the small jet trainers are next to the 146s (if thats what they are).

55(R) Sqn old Dominies in retirement, Kemble July 2012 - Echelon Wealthcare (http://www.echelonwealthcare.co.uk/55r-sqn-dominies-kemble-july-2012/)

Last time I was at Kemble, the place was full of BAOR/RAFG drawdown gear and some old A10s. Now, lots of grotty airliners. Great playground though, and my last Harrier Force exercise was there. Was it really 20 years ago? The war stopped for the FA Cup final..

[camelspyyder]

Al
the Doms were sold by DSA last year to the guy at Kemble for about £150000 (6 complete jets and 5 spare Vipers) He hasnt been able to move them on by the look of things, although some were for sale on controller.com recently.

The last Dom is still hangared at Cranwell; it is planned for gateguard duty ouside SHQ.

[Al R]

Blimey - cheap (to my mind anyway!).

Cheers.

PS: I take it, they're still airworthy, to be flown out of there. How long can they be hanging around before they lose their airworthiness certificates?

[salad-dodger]

Al

Almost certainly maintained over their long life to military standards not civil. If that's the case then they won't have recognised airworthiness certificates, rendering them, well, fit for scrap.

S-D

[Al R]

Cheers.. no protocol agreeing some minimum common servicing standard then. I understand the issue of Lightnings and Vulcans etc, but something like this that has a regular civvy post service use? If it is just scrap.. it is expensive scrap.

[Biggus]

Why expensive?

Basic airframe circa 1966. Re-engined at all? Any money spent on them by MOD was many years ago. Internal layout not exactly VIP configuration.

[Al R]

I was referring to the second hand buy price.. 150k for 6 (cheap if they were going to fly, expensive if not)? I don't know, that might be cheap if they got recycled and stripped and if the market justifies it.

[Biggus]

Ah....I get your point now..... :ok: