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3rd Jan 2011, 15:39
My 2 year old is going to be traveling frequently from Uk to Italy.
I have bought a 'CARES' Child Aviation Restraint System to use, Now i have been advised that most Uk airlines will probably not allow me to use it.
The airlines we will be using are BA, Easyjet, Flybe and if i have to Ryanair.
Any information will be appreciated.
3rd Jan 2011, 15:58
I believe we do accept/ accomodate these at ezy, I will look it up in my manual for you just to be sure. Bear with me.
3rd Jan 2011, 21:43
not that you're planning to fly with us, but we accept them at bmi, and even carry a spare Cares harness on the aircraft.
3rd Jan 2011, 21:51
Having consulted my trusty manual I can tell you that you can use them on board Flybe, though I suspect that quite a few crew might have to refer to said manual for installation instructions!
4th Jan 2011, 07:54
I checked my manual and yes, ezy do accept CARES restraint devices for infants between 1 to 4 years approximately, for weight between 10 and 20kgs (22 and 44lbs). Please advise airline when booking, and you should be pre-boarded.
Hope this helps.
4th Jan 2011, 08:00
Scroll to child seats (http://www.britishairways.com/travel/child/public/en_gb)
BA refer to AmSafe in the website literature but my understanding is that CARES is manufactured by AmSafe so it would seem ok for us as well.
Trash 'n' Navs
7th May 2011, 19:14
Does anyone know if SQ allow them?
7th May 2011, 20:27
CARES system designed for the parent to install, so I think most airlines do not allow crew to touch it... if parent cannot fit it, should not be used.
Why not call SQ and ask them direct?? :)
Trash 'n' Navs
7th May 2011, 20:40
Did that - rang Res today & call-centre in India initially said no but when I pointed out the Amsafe website said it was approved by CAAS (as well as FAA) they said I should ask at check-in. Bit late and leaves it a bit hit & miss for my liking.
9th May 2011, 03:16
I know Virgin Australia accept them (just in case you ever go to Australia).
The crew will check the tags on the restraint first (NEVER remove them) to ensure it has the correct compliance numbers on it, the parent is to then install it and then the installation will be checked my crew.
Similar restrictions on the childs size as mentioned by a poster above also apply.
If the parent can't install it correct then unfortunately it can not be used.
For disabled or those with medical conditions it is important to note Virgin Australia do carry upper torso harnesses for use when required. Of course these must be booked via the Guest Contact Centre.
Trash 'n' Navs
10th May 2011, 21:35
Thanks all - mixed news from my investigation. :hmm:
CAAS have confirmed that any CRS conforming to FAA Technical Standard Order TSO-C 100b is approved for use on SG registered aircraft (CARES does).
However, SQ advise that "since the harness crosses over the seat, in order to avoid inconvenience to other passengers we need to accommodate customers who need to use the harness in the last row of the aircraft".
Not sure how they figure it will inconvenience other pax as once installed, the harness sits between the seat back & tray table in the stowed position.
Anyway, don't see they'll accept that argument but it seems odd they put pax comfort over safety. I'll get off my soap box now and enjoy the holiday.
Just as a point of information, the CARES device does not have a TSO-C100b certification. Rather, the manufacturer demonstrated an equivalent level of safety and received approval through 14 CFR 21.305(d), which was the old method for the approval of materials, parts, processes, and appliances.
Also, some seats have recessed table trays, which then requires that the upper strap wrap around the outside of the tray. It's possible that SQ have seats with this configuration?