RAF Roll Neck Vest

[97JP02]

Anybody know where I can buy a RAF OG roll neck vest that is worn under a grow bag? Really want to bag a few for my uncle who is the USAF as he has grown to the one that he managed to get as part of a swap in KAF. Better still, the NSN would be great! Cheers guys!

[N.HEALD]

Ebay is your friend, have got a couple off there myself. they go for about a tenner each if i recall

[Pontius Navigator]

LOL, I sold 2 second hand and well used ones this month and will be putting a third on after Christmas!

[Spot 4]

eBay is not your friend; the MoD employ a 'large' team drawn from all three services who get paid to surf eBay all day looking for MoD kit for sale and establishing where it came from. Any military kit on eBay will attract the attention of the Rozzers: You were warned.

[D-State]

No wonder the MOD is cash strapped!!! Must look harder on JPA for that job

[97JP02]

Believe me, the redcaps have better things to be looking out for on fleabay than a couple of aircrew tops. They're more concerned about people flogging PRR's, sets of Osprey and MTP. Can anyone tell me what is on the label name wise and NSN?

[D-State]

NSN 8405-99-9770527 Thats a Medium 36-39 in

Enjoy

[Pontius Navigator]

Spot, many years ago when home computing was a twinkle in Clive Sinclair's eye, the equivalent was Exchange and Mart.

Now at that time exercise NBC kit was strictly short life and tops had separate hoods - Mk 1. The inside had raw carbon lining. Now I spotted in E&M some Mk 3 NBC, 2 for a fiver.

I sent off for it and had two very smart, fully lined time-expired (3-yrs old) kit. Everyone wondered where I got it.

A year of so later the shelf life was reassessed and my kit was suddenly back in life and like hen's teeth. I sold my spare at a profit.

The Services dispose of surplus kit at the nearest point of arising. This means that quite legitimately that kit that is surplus in Scotland is flogged off in Stirling while a unit in the south has to place an urgent demand for new production. Such is the delight of RAC that the Services are penalised for spares on the shelf.

[Spot 4]

the MoD employ a 'large' team drawn from all three services who get paid to surf eBay all day looking for MoD kit

This is true; they are based at Bordon in Hampshire and although Bordon is Army, the staffing comes from all three services & MoD Police. I know of a criminal case in progress in which stores were diverted to eBay by an MoD employee. Not sure if a verdict has been pronounced and therefore cannot be any more specific, but an insight into the procedures was seen.

Quote: "The stuff may be issued, but it is owned by the Govt" and I dare say that the focus of attention is equipment in operational demand, but is the employee who nicks a pack of paper for his PC Printer any less a thief then somebody abusing for personal gain the responsibilities of his job.

As morale spirals and allowances cut there will be those who believe they can make up for it through petty theft, and the system is already in place to nail it. PS I am neither a rozzer nor a thief.

[Spot 4]

I guess I probably do; but they do not get top rate PAS pay and I do :ok:

[N.HEALD]

So what about someone that has bought kit from an Army Surplus Store and subesequently sells it on eBay when he no longer requires it? Or someone that buys new kit from say Silvermans and then decides to sell it? I find it incredible to think the MOD have a dept surfing eBay for people selling kit, talk about a waste of resources.

[Runaway Gun]

That's a relief. For a minute I was worried they might track me down for eBaying those Tristar Aileron Bearings that have been sat in the corner of the hangar for ages...

[Pontius Navigator]

NH, when Binbrook closed the local garden centre had a shed load of security containers such as doc boxes, key boxes etc all with the Mk 4 MCLs. Some were original, some had the anti-X-ray mods.

According to my local plods the containers were in short supply and that particular MCL should NOT have been on the open market.

[Mr C Hinecap]

I find it incredible to think the MOD have a dept surfing eBay for people selling kit, talk about a waste of resources.

We have a multi-billion pound inventory and you think a team helping prevent theft is a bad idea? You can automate searches you know.

[Shackman]

As far as I'm concerned you can have all of the latest batch of roll necks - appalling quality, stretch (and don't recover) as soon as you take them out of the bag so you end up with the arms somewhere near the top of your flying suit arms after you put that on and the neck open to the elements - but at least I've still got a couple of the old grey aircrew scarves to keep warm.
I'm not even sure it's fireproof as it feels like 50% nylon!
Originally all aircrew equipment used to be rigorously tested for fit (and fire retardent properties) before appearing in stores - these ones feel like rejects from Primark,

[davejb]

We have a multi-billion pound inventory

...then flog some of it and buy aeroplanes with the proceeds...

[TEEEJ]

N.Heald wrote

I find it incredible to think the MOD have a dept surfing eBay for people selling kit, talk about a waste of resources.

Money well spent to catch idiots like this. It also acts as a deterrent to others.

'A former Army quartermaster has been ordered to pay back over £6,000 made from selling military goods on eBay.

Allan Peet, of Bridgend, used the website to sell boots, rucksacks and rations from Ministry of Defence stores at St Athan, Vale of Glamorgan.....'

BBC News - Payback order for ex-quartermaster on eBay MoD goods (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11846568)

The US have an even larger problem. They also have teams dedicated to tracking the sale of stolen military equipment.

TJ

[Mr C Hinecap]

...then flog some of it and buy aeroplanes with the proceeds...

errrr, we do. Regularly. The Disposals Agency does just that. If we sold all the ground support equipment, the spares for it, the specialist vehicles, protective clothing etc etc etc then bought aeroplanes, you could have, um, unsupported aeroplanes :rolleyes:

[Biggus]

...if you ask at Lyneham or Brize (and possibly many other RAF operating bases) I think you will find many people feel that we already operate "unsupported aeroplanes". :(


e.g http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/437251-tristars-grounded-again-5.html post 96.


We would just like more unsupported aeroplanes please, and preferably newer ones! :ok:

[Mr C Hinecap]

We would just like more unsupported aeroplanes please

Have you seen how we are going to run JSF? Contracting for Availability. Probably best you don't understand that one - 'culture change' would be an understatement.