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Mandator
16th Dec 2010, 06:49
As we mourn the Harrier, has demise of the Dominie been overlooked? Heard a rumour that today may be its last.

Diablo Rouge
16th Dec 2010, 07:30
I heard that rumour also. However the 'need' or rather lack of it cannot be denied in this case, nevertheless the Dominie airframe has had laudable service and should be celebrated not mourned.

camelspyyder
16th Dec 2010, 08:14
It goes at the end of Jan. We still operate 709 which was the first one delivered in '64 so it would be nice if that was the last one flying also.

CS

Lukeafb1
16th Dec 2010, 08:50
We still have Dominies?? I thought they went out in the 80s.

TorqueOfTheDevil
16th Dec 2010, 09:07
Forgive me being a bit melancholy, but the imminent demise of Dominie (and what aircraft looks smarter than a Dominie in the black and white scheme) means that in my modest RAF career, we have lost:

Wessex
Gazelle
Nimrod
Harrier
Jaguar
Bulldog
Dominie
Canberra
Tornado F3 (very soon)
Jetstream
Chipmunk

In the same period, we have gained:

Merlin
Sentinel
Typhoon
Tutor
King Air

Not a happy picture, is it?:{

green granite
16th Dec 2010, 09:09
They're getting a bit long in the tooth now. :E
http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/492092-bigthumbnail.jpg

pma 32dd
16th Dec 2010, 09:10
When the Dom goes, what will the RAF do with its remaining supply of 2 stroke?

:E

Diablo Rouge
16th Dec 2010, 10:36
I think they should paint the oldest one silver with yellow 'Training bands' before retirement, which puts into perspective just how long it has been in service. There is no other aircraft in the inventory qualified to return to that livery.

Bismark
16th Dec 2010, 10:39
In the same period, we have gained:

Merlin
Sentinel
Typhoon
Tutor
King Air

And you are about to lose Merlin and Sentinel.

JTIDS
16th Dec 2010, 10:53
But we have got the C-17 as well!

Wycombe
16th Dec 2010, 11:15
....and the C130J (was really a new fleet, maybe it should be on both the "gains" and "losses" list?) and Reaper, with the A400M and A330 to come (at some point!).

But, point taken, the losses far outweigh the gains :{

(with the above additions, the Timmy and Vickers Funbus will also go, of course)

Cows getting bigger
16th Dec 2010, 11:21
Oh Torque, get some time in ;) Adding to your list (bearing in mind I joined in the mid 80s):

Lightning
Andover
Devon
Hunter
Buccaneer
F4
Harrier GR3/T4
F2
Jet Provost 3/4/5
Gazelle
:):):)

TheSmiter
16th Dec 2010, 11:23
Dominie gone
Nimrod gone

:sad: one RAF career consigned to history in the blink of an eye. Still, as CDS says, change is good and we must look to the future .........

Why can I only hear tumbleweed blowing in the wind?

Spider I trust you're planning a 16 ship fly past of Dominie related airfields? Is P for Pig still around? Many happy sorties in her, not least my 'Oceanic HF' trip terminating in a weekend at Gatow - what Reykjavik ACC and our Soviet listener friends made of it I'll never know :E However, Big Jimmy and I had a great time doing the sights of 80's Berlin inc 'Charlie', the Wall, Gate and other places not listed under Lonely Planet.

I enjoyed it so much I had to refly! Yay!

TorqueOfTheDevil
16th Dec 2010, 11:26
get some time in


Fair point! Is Whirlwind perhaps missing from your list?


C-17 as well


Oops, my mistake...

airpolice
16th Dec 2010, 11:48
And where might I ask is the Gnat still being flown by the RAF?


Did anyone else notice the Varsity is missing?

Both were in service when I joined in 73.

Algy
16th Dec 2010, 11:50
In which case the Pembroke should make an appearance, along with its Alvis Leonides radial donks.

Algy
16th Dec 2010, 11:53
And Hastings come to that. TG507 still being on the books in ´74 I´m pretty sure, but I guess for not much longer after that.

Big Tudor
16th Dec 2010, 11:57
And may I respectfully add Shackleton to your list TotD?

Willard Whyte
16th Dec 2010, 11:57
Avro Shackleton went in '91.

I Just about saw that one go.

EDIT: OOoo, beaten to it by a gnat's chuff.

bobward
16th Dec 2010, 11:59
Change is inevitable, unless you're dealing with a vending machine.....:eek:

Rocket2
16th Dec 2010, 12:00
But we still have Spitfire, Hurricane, Lancaster, Chipmunk & DC-3 :\

airpolice
16th Dec 2010, 12:10
Bob,

nobody likes change, except wet babies.

NutLoose
16th Dec 2010, 12:13
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Don't hang about do they :uhoh:

camelspyyder
16th Dec 2010, 12:35
that's not a dominie:)

Vick Van Guard
16th Dec 2010, 12:36
Don't hang about do they

That's a Jetstream.

Hastings were around until 1977, certainly saw one flying at the Coningsby air show that year.

Also had the pleasure of ground running the one at Newark Air Museum a few years later.

NutLoose
16th Dec 2010, 12:41
that's not a dominiehttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif


I know, I never said it was. :O

Hastings were around until 1977, certainly saw one flying at the Coningsby air show that year.


Yup one was at the RAF at Home Day...(remember those LOL) at St Athans late summer of 1976

TEEEJ
16th Dec 2010, 12:57
Lukeafb1 wrote

We still have Dominies?? I thought they went out in the 80s.

Still around. Some images from last month at the following link. A Dominie was noted on the 14th December going low level in Wales.

Photo Search Results | Airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?aircraftsearch=Hawker%20Siddeley%20HS-125-2%20Dominie%20T2&distinct_entry=true)

TJ

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16th Dec 2010, 20:06
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chiglet
16th Dec 2010, 21:56
When I joined, we still had Valettas and Whistling Wheelbarrows, and Vulcans,Victors,Valliants...etc, etc but it was in 1963 :ok:

ExAscoteer
16th Dec 2010, 23:07
Is P for Pig still around? Many happy sorties in her

XS714 'P' was scrapped in 1994 owing to corrosion and fatigue cracks.

What remains of her (fuselage section) now resides at the Fire School at Manston.

kitwe
17th Dec 2010, 09:01
Diablo Rouge

Don't think the (DH125) Dominie ever wore yellow training bands. We had one or two at Stradishall in early 1966 that were silver overall with orange Dayglo nose and tail.

E-Spy
17th Dec 2010, 10:12
I agree with all the above sentiments regarding the Dominie, but I doubt I am alone when I shudder, thinking about the relative hell of LLTS, trying to do my 6min, 5min etc ETA calculations, occasionally being 'tapped' on the head with a nav ruler, trying to find that damned last fix before the target in amongst that radar soup!
The 3ship end of course OTF however....:E

Tiger_mate
17th Dec 2010, 12:16
http://www.abpic.co.uk/images/images/1053982M.jpg

Le Bourget 1965 at about the time Dominie entered service. Looks like kitwe is correct regarding yellow go-faster stripes.

RumPunch
17th Dec 2010, 12:43
I think the VC10 is going 2013 with the Tristar if Im not mistaken.

Grim picture come 2014 and the end of Afghan

Dengue_Dude
17th Dec 2010, 16:13
About time they got rid of that POS.

Horrible little aeroplane with only one bloody VOR at the front!

As for the 'organ-grinder' ADFs . . .

ExAscoteer
17th Dec 2010, 18:14
Horrible little aeroplane with only one bloody VOR at the front!

As for the 'organ-grinder' ADFs . . .

The upgrade aircraft (introduced in 1996) had twin digital VOR/DME, digital ADF, TACAN, RADAR repeater and side stick controller up front.

Still had the crappy Mk2 Artificial Horizon though.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/Debs24_photos/Misc/DomFlightDeck.jpg

Dengue_Dude
17th Dec 2010, 18:26
Blimey - doesn't look much like the aircraft I managed 850 hours in.

Mind you they were quite safe by then . . . Chris H had gone (ex VC10 captain who lost his scraper on the journey from BZZ to FY) - he used to scream 'I hate this f***ing aeroplane' and pounded the glareshield (I think it was to assist the vibrator in the altimeter).

I thought he was testing my CRM (before we called it that).

Mind you, it did allow us to sleep in our own beds at night and leave the suitcase in the loft.

Still got the little square cans for the engine oil?

QEI1
17th Dec 2010, 18:58
Still carry them around, refilled every day since the start, well engineered bits of kit.

ditchvisitor
17th Dec 2010, 19:03
Lose Merlin... Yeah right as if that will ever happen, only getting 12 Chinooks to replace 26 Merlins and with less Puma 2's coming, after a scathing SDSR... CHF will go!