Buccaneer crews

[hunty]

Evening everyone

Currently to be found at Bruntingthorpe are three taxiable Buccaneers. The latest aircraft to achieve this was XW544, which moved under its own power yesterday, for the first time in 27 years. This Buccaneer plus XX894 and XX900, are also in taxiable condition at Bruntingthorpe. They should be joined by a fourth aircraft soon, when XX889 makes the journey by road, from Kemble.

Hope all Buccaneer crews enjoy reading this news.

Hunty :ok:

[draken55]

Excellent news. Hats off to all those involved:D

http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j420/draken55/AirBritain16.jpg

[iRaven]

"Taxiable" or "Taxyable"?

Just wondered how much the fare was from Bruntigthorpe to Leicester would be!

;-)

iRaven

[BBadanov]

iRaven: "Taxiable" or "Taxyable"?

"Taxi" has been forced into the aviation language to replace "taxy" over the last few decades, largely through ignorance. Even go to an aircrew briefing, and "taxi" is used, and you are considered odd by using "taxy".

Changing times unfortunately - probably a reflection on spelling not being such a big deal in the X-Y gens !! :hmm:

[Get me some traffic]

The concrete bits on airfields are known as taxyways.

[NutLoose]

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"Taxiable" or "Taxyable"?

Just wondered how much the fare was from Bruntigthorpe to Leicester would be!

;-)

iRaven


Where.. were.. wear???? one should attempt to get ones own correct.. :p

[engineer(retard)]

900 was the 1st Bucc I ever lay hands on. I remember it sitting on jacks, ready for hyds on. The rig was powered up and it looked like a cartoon colander, fluid peeing in all directions. Happy days. Well done to all at Bruntingthorpe for their efforts.

[tu chan go]

Fantastic news.........now we just need to get one flying!! :p:p

[Pontius Navigator]

Thought they only flew as fours :}

[Arkwright]

I suspect the gradual deterioration in Queens English is due in part to Microsoft's spell checker..... as well as the proliferation of US tv shows.

How many UK crew know and refer to the re-ignition of the oxygen in exhaust gases as "reheat" and not as "afterburn"? Sadly not many.

As for "TAXY Checks" rather than TAXI Checks", well I have altered my aircrafts checklist into proper English! :ok:

[Sgt.Slabber]

PN,


Thought they only flew as fours

To do that they had to start as a six ship:E

[david parry]

Nice pic 55;) squadron 809 MK2( Phoenix ) Carrying 8X1000lbs bombs, Hms Ark Royal Just sticking up a Mk1, when it all started in 63 with "Spiv" CDR A.J.Leahy MBE. DSC.http://usera.imagecave.com/scouse/buccaneer11(1).jpg

[philrigger]

;)

PN

Thought they only flew as fours


The last time I saw four Buccs off the ground - three of them were on jacks.

[Pontius Navigator]

Shame on you all.

I could have said an 8!

[anotherthing]

...XX894 and XX900, are also in taxiable condition at Bruntingthorpe. They should be joined by a fourth aircraft soon, when XX889 makes the journey by road, from Kemble...
That's a hell of an impressive taxy...

[airpolice]

I like Buccs, I recall seeing them angry and thinking that it looked so right.

But, I can't imagine it will be practical as a taxi. Impressive yeah, but really, a Taxi? Think about the hen nights in a pink fire engine going round some cities nowadays. A Bucc is much more impressive but with only one passenger? As for the thought of a drunk trying to climb up into the back seat, with or without a curry, it just seems impractical.

[Sgt.Slabber]

AP,

You don't know about the "panniers" that could be fitted on the Bomb Door then? No need to climb any ladders - as one of the "1 Shed" FLMs found out to his cost one lunchtime! One pannier could probably take 3 or 4 at a push.

[Boslandew]

Does anyone have any info about the Buccaneer that has been sitting on the tarmac at Weston civilian airfield to the west of Dublin for some time? Looks like a fish out of water.

[taxydual]

Thank God for Taxy.

I'd loathe being a spelling mistake!

[BBadanov]

airpolice: But, I can't imagine it will be practical as a taxi. Impressive yeah, but really, a Taxi?

OK you guys, it's about time you learnt the real banter. The Bucc was a "jet" or a "cab", but never a "taxi" :ugh:

Now if you wanted a "taxi", well that's a "fast black". ;)

[jindabyne]

This one was 'bolting' ---

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb59/malgrosse/00003-1.jpg

[green granite]

Does anyone have any info about the Buccaneer that has been sitting on the tarmac at Weston civilian airfield to the west of Dublin for some time?

XV863 Blackburn Buccaneer S.2B was RAF Lossiemouth's gate guard, a gulf veteran (nose art - 'Debbie, Sea Witch'). Removed from the gate where she had been on display since 1993 (complete with ALQ-101 ECM pod, LGB and Pave Spike pod), she was transported to Dublin in late August 2007 and thence to Weston Aerodrome, where she was reassembled in short order. Rumour has it she is destined for a local museum.


Weston, ex RAF, XV863, Blackburn Buccaneer S.2B. | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nxgphotos/4679293715/#/photos/nxgphotos/4679293715/lightbox/)

[david parry]

http://usera.imagecave.com/scouse/vic7_edited.jpgJ ...much rather have a touch and go by the old and bolds of 801 Sqdn HMS Victorious;) but nice County Class as guard ship in the painting....

[draken55]

David P

And talking of 809 Sqdn:O

http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j420/draken55/AirBritain17.jpg

[david parry]

Oh!!!! Slipper tanks:ouch: Hope he had the correct trim setting for take off??? not like our two from the VIC:rolleyes:

[draken55]

David P

No problem;)

http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j420/draken55/AirBritain18.jpg

[Miles Magister]

I recall during my training being shown some film of a Bucc pitching up on T/O and the crew jumping out. An old Bucc pilot told me that this was due to a trim problem on deck take offs when they upgraded to the Mk2. I was told that they had lost a couple of Buccs pitching up uncontrollably on take off from the ship and the Sqn crews reported a trim problem but the authorities and test Sqn said there was no problem. So they sent a test crew to try it, and the film is of the test crew pitching up uncontrollably on T/O and jumping out! They agreed and fixed the problem.

Can any one who is more knowledgeable than me confirm, elaborate but most of all I am looking for a link to the video for my son.

Thank you

MM

[david parry]

Yes the two incidents happened on Hms Victorious on the final Commission 65/67 All in aircraft from 801 Sqdn.The first ejection took place of the Lizard, and the second ejection took place of Singapore. L/T Gamley and L/T Elliss were the first, and LT/CDR J Eagles and F/LT Scrivens the other....All O/K .I can tell you their was a few :rolleyes: and frowns from the flight deck crew and lads from 801, after " smooth boy Johnnie" had flown out to Singapore to show the pilots how it should be done:eek: Think he had the shortest flight ever in a Buccaneer:ugh: .........Boscombe Down did not believe that empty slipper tanks contributed to the accident and Johnny Eagles came out to the ship to disprove the theory that the C of G moved aft under this configuration. The result was that he also landed in the drink after ejecting through the canopy as the aircraft stalled on launch.

[jindabyne]

Miles,

Hope this explanation helps, given to me by an old 'n bold Buccaneer operator from his experiences flying the S1 and S2 on Victorious:

The original underwing tank on the Buccaneer S1 had an 'asymmetric' fairing, also known as the pen-knib fairing due to its shape, to reduce drag. However, when fitted to the Buccaneer S2, it was found that this fairing contributed significantly to pitch instability at low speeds/high AOA on catapult launch. Following the loss of the two S2’s after pitch-up off the catapult on Victorious in 1966, the clearance to launch with wing tanks was removed. After further trials, the pen-knib fairing was removed and replaced with a smoother 'symmetric' fairing. This resolved the problem, and with a tailplane angle indicator added to the top of the fin, fitment of a new AI display and a more accurate TPI, full clearance was restored in late1967.

And hence my painting needs some alteration!

More info here Aircraft Carrier Operations (http://www.blackburn-buccaneer.co.uk/Pages1_files/Catapult_Index.html)

BTW, it was Dave Eagles, not Johnnie/Johnny.

[david parry]

But that was our nickname for him on the flight deck on the Vic;) Lt. Cdr. J. D. Eagles

[foldingwings]

I hope he's not reading this forum then! I thought one of the principles of this site was not to name the living (or even the dead on occasions), especially in a deprecating way!

Foldie:rolleyes:

[david parry]

Quote FW "especially in a deprecating way!:= More like a " Term of Endearment " from the Flight Deck Crew and 801 Sqdn Ratings from HMS Victorious to LT/CDR J. D. Eagles enshrined in Wafu Folklore;)

[foldingwings]

That'll be OK then!!!!!!!!

Used to be 'No Names, No Pack Drill' on here!

Foldie

[yoyonow]

How very pompous of you Foldie given your previous attacks on a fellow retired officer.

[foldingwings]

Fair cop! But I don't think I raised his name on here (I may be wrong) and I made my peace with him and, subsequently, recalled many a happy memory from our time together on RF.

Anyway, it's just an observation and maybe as a previous transgressor (if I was) it is appropriate for me to be the pompous repentant!

Foldie:ok:

[draken55]

Re the earlier 1970's image of an 809 Sqdn Bucc with an asymetric load of a buddy pod, slipper tank and practice bomb container, here is a Super Hornet bringing it all back aboard. Sorry if this is now off thread but what an interesting image of current US Navy fixed wing carrier ops.

http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j420/draken55/SuperHornet.jpg

[Neptunus Rex]

...Hornet bringing it all back aboard
Not quite. He/she seems to be missing an AAM from the starboard wingtip mount.

[draken55]

Neptunus Rex

Only one AIM-9X was carried this time.http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j420/draken55/IMG_0577.jpg

[grandfer]

All this about Buccaneers is doin' me buccin' 'ead in , I'm off to find me buccin' 'at !:ok:
Great stuff !

[Neptunus Rex]

draken55

Blimey! Are the Defence Cuts hitting the USN as well?

[draken55]

I think the last time the US Navy shot down an aircraft was in 1981 off the coast of Libya. So despite "Top Gun" their focus has not really been air to air as the USAF pretty much runs a closed shop. The surprise was that this Super Hornet, flying over Iraq off the USS Eisenhower, carried any AAM given the absence of an aerial threat. Just being prudent I suppose unless their was some other issue.

[GreenKnight121]

Hmmm... I missed this earlier.

http://www.history.navy.mil/avh-1910/APP33.PDF

2 in 1989 vs Libya, and 3 in 1991 vs Iraq.

[draken55]

Thanks for the correction Green Knight and apologies for the error!