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JB235
27th Nov 2010, 04:58
Hi everyone,

I sat ATPL Performance and Loading yesterday and sadly 68% was the best I could do.

In my KDRs was one of those minor questions that could make or break you.
I can't seem to find the correct answer in my study material.

I went for ( B ) and got it wrong.

Question, Holding Altitude for lowest SFC

A) as low as possible

B) as high as possible

C) Lower rather than higher

D) Higher rather than lower

ConfigFull
27th Nov 2010, 05:39
Hi JB235,

What notes are you using for study?

Let's look at what effects SFC:

RPM:
SFC reduces in the design RPM for a specific engine, Higgins puts it in the 92-98% range. An aircraft at a higher altitude will be holding at an engine RPM closer to the design RPM therefore a better SFC.

Temperature:
Not much of a change for a similar TAS; however

Altitude:
You'll get a better SFC with altitude up to the tropopause where the SFC will begin to become less-favourable again. This is where I think you've got the question wrong.

I'd be inclined to choose D in this case.

JB235
27th Nov 2010, 06:31
Gday ConfigFull,

I am using AFT notes.

Yep I think your right.It was one of those curly ones.
I mean who is going to be holding above the tropopause
Thats why I went for as high as possible :sad:

Cheers

Roxy_Chick_1989
27th Nov 2010, 06:56
Gee, those choices complicate what seems a relatively simple question.

manymak
27th Nov 2010, 07:21
Gee, those choices complicate what seems a relatively simple question.

Roxy, welcome to CASA ATPL examinations.. Well any of their exams for that matter! :ooh:

Feather #3
27th Nov 2010, 09:37
From practical experience, it's [D].

G'day ;)

Tinstaafl
27th Nov 2010, 21:28
I wouldn't have answered 'as high as possible'. That implies the aircraft's absolute ceiling is a possibility, which does not equate with the most efficient use of fuel. 'Higher rather than lower' however doesn't include a particular altitude that is inefficient, leaving the exact altitude open to suit the circumstances.

Roxy_Chick_1989
28th Nov 2010, 01:35
Altitude:
You'll get a better SFC with altitude up to the tropopause where the SFC will begin to become less-favourable again. This is where I think you've got the question wrong.


could someone explain this?

cavok123
28th Nov 2010, 02:53
Seen that q before and went D

oz in dxb
28th Nov 2010, 03:09
I would have thought that SFC was more applicable for the cruise rather than in a holding pattern. More thrust for less fuel flow per hour.

In a holding pattern your best altitude will depend on your aircraft weight as you will want to fly at min F/F.

B777-300ER:
340T - min F/F at 10 000FT
180T - min F/F at 30 000FT

Mind you it has been a few decades since I did ATPL performance and yet again I didn't RTFQ!

Oz

Dangnammit
28th Nov 2010, 21:21
I think we are all missing the point. CASA exams are also a test on your understanding of the english language.
Ahh the joy!