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67Wing
10th Nov 2010, 11:38
The BBC report of a significant missile launch off the coast of California is at the link. Only problem is the US is not aware of any DoD launch! Perhaps it's another RN admiral going ballistic. ;)

Please try keep this thread to the missile launch and not hopping mad admirals.

BBC News - Mystery missile launch reported off California coast (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11721981)

BossEyed
10th Nov 2010, 11:44
US808 from Hawaii to Phoenix (http://uncinus.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/4/).

Next! :ok:

doubleu-anker
10th Nov 2010, 12:03
That looked like a pretty big missile too me. Not your normal fire cracker that is for sure.

Jayand
10th Nov 2010, 12:18
AWC say it's just seagull!!!!

Roadster280
10th Nov 2010, 12:19
Two things come to mind, assuming the Pentagon types are not lying through their teeth.

1. If it was a foreign missile off the coast of Los Angeles, that is quite perturbing. If the launch vessel/submarine got close enough to fire such a missile, it would be close enough for a shorter range attack on LA. Not that loss of LA would be that big of a deal :E, but the wider connotations are worrying. The "kink" in the vapour trail is reminiscent of a submarine launched missile to me. NK or China?

2. If NORAD don't have a handle on this, it would be equally surprising. I won't hold my breath for an explanation though!

sitigeltfel
10th Nov 2010, 12:23
Somewhere, deep in the Pacific, on board an SSBN.

Captain.. "OK Number One, we will practice launching from tube six today".

Number One.. "Err, sorry sir, tube six not available"

Captain... "Why ever not Number One"?

Number One... "Well sir, Seaman Jones was fixing a short circuit in one of the galley ovens last night and you will never believe what happened!"

BillHicksRules
10th Nov 2010, 12:42
I love the fact that the DoD state they know nothing about it but are nonetheless not concerned!!

diginagain
10th Nov 2010, 12:45
That'll be those chemtrails...........

Jabba_TG12
10th Nov 2010, 13:10
I liked one of the other quotes on that site...


"Aliens finally decided to leave planet earth as they realize it is just impossible for humans to agree on anything." :D:D:D

downnorth
10th Nov 2010, 13:27
NOTAM - kzla Los Angeles A2832/10 - The Following Restrictions Are Required Due To Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division Activation Of W537. In The Interest Of Safety, All Non-participating Pilots Are Advised To Avoid W537. Ifr Traffic Under Atc Jurisdiction Should Anticipate Clearance Around W537 And Cae 1176. Cae 1155 Will Not Be Available For Oceanic Transition. Cae 1316 & Cae 1318 Will Not Be Available For Oceanic Transition. Cae 1177 Will Be Available For Oceanic Transition. W537 Active, Cae 1176 Closed. Surface - Fl390, 09 Nov 20:00 2010 Until 10 Nov 01:00 2010. Created: 08 Nov 20:52 2010

JRM2010
10th Nov 2010, 21:43
"09 Nov 20:00 2010 Until 10 Nov 01:00 2010. Created: 08 Nov 20:52 2010 "

Which, as was mentioned on the blog linked at the top, is after the contrail in question appeared, at around 17:00 local on 08 Nov.

doubleu-anker
11th Nov 2010, 03:13
Yes, it was an aircraft!

BBC News - Pentagon says aircraft caused mystery 'missile' trail (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11731014)

I say BS! What an insult to ones intelligence.

If it was an a/c, it was a hot ship.

My money is on it being a WX balloon.

SilsoeSid
11th Nov 2010, 10:31
JRM2010
"09 Nov 20:00 2010 Until 10 Nov 01:00 2010. Created: 08 Nov 20:52 2010 "

Which, as was mentioned on the blog linked at the top, is after the contrail in question appeared, at around 17:00 local on 08 Nov.

And here's me thinking NOTAMs were in Z timings.
:rolleyes:

TEEEJ
11th Nov 2010, 16:56
Debated over on Jet Blast. I won't repeat all my posts on this thread as they can be viewed at the following link.

The helicopter camera crew footage of the event is edited. There is a lot more than the short snippet that was aired. Some later footage of the event on my post at #78.

http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/433281-southern-california-missile-launch-contrail-merged.html

Another example of how an aircraft contrail can be misinterpreted. It is all about perspective.

9sVmjpDZLN0

TJ

TEEEJ
11th Nov 2010, 17:20
Later footage of the 'missile' event. The footage is also on You Tube.

Mysterious missile launched off California coast? (http://www.necn.com/11/09/10/Mysterious-missile-launched-off-Californ/landing_scitech.html?blockID=348833&feedID=4213)

TJ

Thunderpants
11th Nov 2010, 20:21
.....Nah.....its them there bleedin' martians again innit.....dun it before they ave'......HG Wells said so. And I saw it on the movies once, so it must be true.:}

Alber Ratman
11th Nov 2010, 21:10
It's a contrail from a twin jet airliner.. Simples.:E

TEEEJ
12th Nov 2010, 01:07
The Pleideans saved the world! :ugh:

7UAeSsvHhTg

TJ

newfieboy
12th Nov 2010, 02:50
The Pleidians? Well I never, everydays a schoolday........:DShouldn;t mind some of the sh#t she bin smokin/drinking....days would definately be alot more interesting in the spot I'm in.......:bored:

TEEEJ
12th Nov 2010, 06:23
Some excellent work from the guys over at Above Top Secret.

The following images prove that it was no missile. The helo cameraman admitted that he filmed the trail for 10 minutes. No ballistic missile would be in view for that length of time. As the airliner approaches the coast the contrail dissapates and it carries on its easterly heading.

Here are some independent images.

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6e2e2f42ada3.gif

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/9cf86cd13b33.png

Mystery Vapor Trail appears off Calif. Coast on Monday, Nov. 8, 2010 | KABC7 Photos and Slideshows (http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/gallery?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=7776159&photo=1)

Mystery Vapor Trail appears off Calif. Coast on Monday, Nov. 8, 2010 | KABC7 Photos and Slideshows (http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/gallery?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=7776159&photo=2)

Mystery Vapor Trail appears off Calif. Coast on Monday, Nov. 8, 2010 | KABC7 Photos and Slideshows (http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/gallery?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=7776159&photo=3)

Mystery Vapor Trail appears off Calif. Coast on Monday, Nov. 8, 2010 | KABC7 Photos and Slideshows (http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/gallery?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=7776159&photo=4)

Mystery Vapor Trail appears off Calif. Coast on Monday, Nov. 8, 2010 | KABC7 Photos and Slideshows (http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/gallery?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=7776159&photo=5)

Images from a weather sat. The airliner contrail is shown and is blown south.

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b356e55f4650.gif

TJ

TEEEJ
12th Nov 2010, 06:50
Further analysis on the following. Scroll down to the bottom of the web page.

Jet contrails from some angles look like missile trails Contrail Science Overflow (http://uncinus.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/4/)

TJ

Wasser
12th Nov 2010, 08:02
Never mind all this talk about mystery missiles, the question is:

Colleen - would ya? I would, but I'd have to put something in her mouth to shut her up.

con-pilot
12th Nov 2010, 15:43
TEEEJ, I think that woman is taking the NBC TV series, "The Event" a bit too seriously. :p

The Event | NBC Official Site: Watch The Event, Shows, Episodes & Online Videos (http://www.nbc.com/the-event/)

TEEEJ
14th Nov 2010, 16:49
I agree Con-Pilot :)

Another independent image of the incident in question at the following link.

http://www.cargolaw.com/images/Singles10.LAX.Missle3.JPEG

Some more excellent analysis on the possibility that it was United Parcel Service Flight UPS902. Flight 902 was a McDonnell Douglas MD-11. As the MD-11 is a tri-engined airliner it would certainly account for the lack of distinct separated contrails in the later stages of the video.

Los Angeles Missile Contrail Explained in Pictures - Contrail Science (http://contrailscience.com/los-angeles-missile-contrail-explained-in-pictures/)

TJ