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31st Jan 2001, 20:07
My PA28R is finally back from the aeroplane doctor with a zero timed engine and, after cleaning duties on Sat morning I have it booked for the afternoon.
Looking for somewhere to go - anyone fancy meeting for a mini PPRuNe coffee at Henstridge / Thruxton or somwehere nearby, preferable with hard runway??? Wx permitting of course.
31st Jan 2001, 20:52
I prefer EGBG, as weather is not going to be great. The cake on me.
31st Jan 2001, 21:08
I'll look up EGBG in my Pooleys tonight and be back on line tomorrow!!! :) :)
PS may have a spare seat if anyone is interested - out of Blackbushe.
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A and C
31st Jan 2001, 23:07
Arrow 2 befor you fly with your new engine please read the Lycoming SB on breaking in new engines if you fly it right you can expect 2000 hours of fun from it if you dont the cylinders will be off within 100 hours.
The flights you are planning are not long enough to meet the requirements of the SB for the first hours of a new engine.
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A and C
31st Jan 2001, 23:50
Arrow 2 futher to my last post it is lycoming service instruction 1014 you need to look at.
A & C is correct, I did not think of that. Go to http://www.lycoming.textron.com/ and look for Key Reprints. They tell you how to brake the engine. You also can try http://www.zephyrengines.com/ Both are very good.
1st Feb 2001, 13:57
A & C, AC-DC - thanks for the advice & steer - very useful. I was aware of the need to cruise at high power settings (75%) for at least the 1st 50 hours to ensure best piston ring / cylinder wall mating - I need to ensure that the other 9 group members fly it the same way! There is nothing I can see in the Lycoming paper that suggests shortish flights should be avoided, although I guess that the more short flights that are flown, the more time the engine will spend at descent power settings - probably best to keep the power up during a descent and plan ahead...any views?
Wx is looking c**p for Sat but will try to get to Henstridge or Leicester if it surprises me!
A and C
2nd Feb 2001, 12:06
And dont forget S80 or S100 oil only for the first 50 hours or untill the oil consumption returns to normal after that W80/W100 oil or a multi grade.
I would recomend the shell miltigrade its expencive but all the engines i,v seen using it seem to have less problems.
Biggles Flies Undone
2nd Feb 2001, 15:12
Looking at the pattern for tomorrow, you may be better off heading South ;)
If EGKA looks like a better proposition let me know :)
2nd Feb 2001, 18:00
BFU - e-mailed you - are you looking for a seat from EGLK or to meet up at EGKA?
A & C, AC-DC - thanks for all the advice - much appreciated. A copy of the Lycoming bulletin is now sitting on the Arrow's coaming!!
Biggles Flies Undone
2nd Feb 2001, 20:01
Sent you an e mail a2. I spend my weekends on the South Coast so I'll try to pitch up for a coffee if you make it :)
I have looked at my Lyco. Owners Hand Book and it says that the first flight should be for one hour, than, the engine should be inspected for leakeges and loos bolts etc.
Regarding the app. keeo the engine on high power for as long as you can, you have long r/w anyway.
I did ILS training in a twin with new engines so the app. was done at 75% and 155kt.
If I like what I see (wx) I might come as well, what time?
2nd Feb 2001, 21:17
AC-DC, Yep, we did the 1st flight bit and the checks thereafter - all looked good and she goes up like a homesick angel. The descent bit makes sense too.
Well we are on cleaning duties in the morning as it looks a little grubby so when we are finished it is all mine!! I'll probably get to Shoreham around 1300 / 1330 - look out for G-BOJI PA28 Arrow 4 T tail.
2nd Feb 2001, 23:50
I'm heading for Sturgate on Sunday for there breakfast fly-in,apparently if you can arrive overhead the field without being spotted by 'spotter planes' then breakfast is free!!!!!!!(Hmm can cub camouflage really work).
If any-one else is planning to go I'll look on here before departure. http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/cool.gif
2nd Feb 2001, 23:53
Arrow 2. Hope weather OK -I'll be at Millwall v. Bristol Rovers.
I like the idea if these impromptu 'fly-ins' and will probably raise a topic myself if I plan on going anywhere. The problem is, the more I fly, the less time I plan ahead as have often worked out lovely flight plan to have to replan due to wx. Usually now turn up at AD and see which way the wind blows.
3rd Feb 2001, 00:22
A tip for Neg G...
If one of the spotters is a white Jodel with a red stripe the owner has a glass eye so approach on his left (:
I am going to Leics tomorrow afternoon and further (weather permitting) on Sunday but might just make an arrival at Sturgate first!
3rd Feb 2001, 01:36
Cheers for the tip(I can feel a cunning plan coming on),I've just seen the forcast on the beeb and it's not looking good,anyway we always live in hope & if it is scrubbed due to wx,then I'll just have to go hungry!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
3rd Feb 2001, 02:03
Arrow 2 and friends
How about EGBJ?...Staverton or Gloucestershire Airport as it prefers to be known! Six hard runways, full ATC with radar, the best home made cakes anywhere and half price landing fee if you buy fuel.
Where have you been? Transair cut some of their prices big time.
5th Feb 2001, 14:33
Best laid plans and all that - by the time we had finished cleaning the aircraft and a few of the others had had a go with the toy the time was getting on so only managed to go local.
Never mind - next time maybe...