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gbax
20th Oct 2010, 21:45
U.A.E. defends no-marks discipline ruling

Country does not condone domestic abuse, official says

Last Updated: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 | 1:32 PM ET Comments25 (http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/10/20/uae-discipline-ruling.html#socialcomments)Recommend6 (http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/10/20/uae-discipline-ruling.html#)

The Associated Press


A senior Emirati judicial official stressed Wednesday the U.A.E. does not condone domestic abuse even though the country's highest court ruled a man can physically "discipline" his wife and young children if he leaves no marks.
The official's statement was strong without contradicting the court — highlighting tensions in the Gulf state between interpretations of traditional Islamic law and the country's desire to forge a modern society that is home to far more foreigners than locals.
"Our courts adhere to [a] strict policy not to tolerate any degree of family violence, whether verbal or physical," Humaid al-Muhairi, director of the Justice Ministry's judicial inspection department, said in a statement carried by state news agency WAM.
Muhairi's comments follow a report this week that the Federal Supreme Court found a man guilty of beating his wife and daughter while noting that Islamic codes allow for "discipline" if it leaves no marks.
The ruling found the man had exceeded the "right to discipline" his family members because his wife suffered lip and teeth injuries, the state-owned daily The National reported this week.
The court also ruled his 23-year-old daughter, who suffered bruises on her hand and knee, was too old to be disciplined by her father.
Under some interpretations of Shariah law, hitting or beating is an acceptable form of domestic discipline.
The decision upheld a lower court ruling that found the man guilty of abuse and fined him the equivalent of $139 Cdn, the paper said.
"If the husband abuses this right to discipline, he cannot be exempted from punishment," Chief Justice Falah al-Hajeri wrote in his ruling.
In Wednesday's statement, al-Muhairi defended the ruling, saying the man "was convicted of an excessive degree of chastisement of his wife," and that he had no right under Islamic Shariah law to beat his adult daughter.
No evidence of widespread domestic violence: official

He said the ruling was in line with previous judgments and that there is no evidence of widespread domestic violence in the Emirates.
"The issue remains one of concern to [the] government and the full force of the law will continue to be brought against those who may exercise chastisement of any kind, verbal or otherwise, beyond acceptable bounds," he said.
The U.A.E. legal system, like that in other Gulf states, combines aspects of traditional Shariah law with secular civil codes. The influence of Shariah tends to be strongest in family law relating to marriage, divorce and sexual relations.
A leading human rights watchdog condemned the high court's decision, saying it upholds a discriminatory law that violates women's and children's rights to liberty, security and equality.
"This ruling ... is evidence that the authorities consider violence against women and children to be completely acceptable," Nadya Khalife of the New York-based Human Rights Watch said in a statement Wednesday.
"Domestic violence should never be tolerated under any circumstances. These provisions are blatantly demeaning to women and pose serious risks to their well-being."
Emirati society has undergone dramatic changes in recent years as hundreds of thousands of foreign residents have poured in, challenging long-held values while raising the country's international profile.
The U.A.E. is playing an increasing role in business and international relations. Its rulers are eager to safeguard the country's Islamic traditions as the country rapidly modernizes and builds cutting-edge skyscrapers and lavish, cosmopolitan hotels.
Roughly four out of every five people living in the country are temporary foreign residents.



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411A
21st Oct 2010, 03:19
A thin canvas bag with half a dozen un-ripe oranges inflicts large pain, yet leaves no visible marks.
An old mafia procedure.

Gulf News
21st Oct 2010, 04:01
Maybe if some of the youngsters got a clip around the ear every now and then they would learn to behave a bit better. Especially on the roads.;)

M-rat
21st Oct 2010, 04:44
411A

You watch too many movies.

Bruising is related to the trauma suffered by the area struck – skin, tissue, bone and so forth.

The oranges in the bag still leave massive bruising when used correctly. What they don’t do is leave an identifiable shape whereby the contusion could identify the instrument or object causing the trauma.
If you hit someone hard enough with a marshmallow, they will still bruise…

Guy D'ageradar
21st Oct 2010, 05:51
If you hit someone hard enough with a marshmallow, they will still bruise…

I wonder just how hard that would have to be?.....:E

skysod
21st Oct 2010, 05:58
Bring it on I say.........one of the last places on the planet where women know their place..............sooo glad I live here!!:E.................................................... oh errrr and nearly forgot to say.....intend to stay here for as long as the wife will let me!!!:O

Lamyna Flo
21st Oct 2010, 06:40
If you hit someone hard enough with a marshmallow, they will still bruise

That actually sounds rather enjoyable.

jungle drums
21st Oct 2010, 10:57
"Harder than your goat......but not as hard as your camel."

MetoPower
21st Oct 2010, 14:13
A thin canvas bag with half a dozen un-ripe oranges inflicts large pain, yet leaves no visible marks.
An old mafia procedure.

Reading between the lines, I must admit that I love your sense of humor...
One has to now this part of the world... of course..

fatbus
21st Oct 2010, 14:17
What does this have to do with Aviation? We all know what goes on here, but come on!

ferris
21st Oct 2010, 15:34
Just get the maid to slap the wife around. That way, if marks are left, you don't have to fork out the $139 fine.

White Knight
21st Oct 2010, 16:18
Beat the wife ok, flip the bird and big trouble - oh the priorities:rolleyes:

BackpackPilot
21st Oct 2010, 20:12
Is it okay to beat someone else's wife?

I know a chap who's ball-and-chain sorely needs an utter flogging. Sadly, he doesn't seem inclined to administer it himself but perhaps if someone else were to step in, she might get the message.

Beating your wife is something which just needs to happen now and then. Same with the kids. Keeps everyone in line and singing from the same sheet of music.

If you're worried about bruising, use a phone book.

Kamelchaser
23rd Oct 2010, 04:24
I certainly hope those last two paragraphs are intended as tongue-in-cheek humour Backpacker.

If so, I doubt many would find it that funny.

If not, I would suggest you'd fit in well with the local community. There is certainly no place for that sort of attitude in a civilized community.

Cpt. Underpants
23rd Oct 2010, 04:37
I wonder if you beat someone with an old codger from Fountain Hills, if it would leave a mark? Eww.

duyentranvan
23rd Oct 2010, 04:39
its okay to punch and beat your wife in spain too. As long as they dont show any signs of injuries

BlueSkye
23rd Oct 2010, 05:54
From Winter's Bone: "I've already told you once to shut-up with my mouth."

QCM
23rd Oct 2010, 06:53
Anyway in France domestic violence towards women is this the first cause of their death before breast and any kind of cancer...and they do leave marks,,,grass always greener elsewhere...

EYpilot777
23rd Oct 2010, 12:41
CBC news it.s canadian :eek: now i understand everything :D bravo

BadAndy
23rd Oct 2010, 12:56
What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?
-- Nothing. You done told her twice already......


What is the first thing a woman does after returning home from the battered women's shelter?
--the laundry, the cooking, and the dishes if she knows what's good for her.....

Okay, now to go hide from my wife before she reads these absolutely tasteless jokes and I find myself on the receiving end of a Cuban beating... :p

BizJetJock
24th Oct 2010, 10:59
In Mediaeval England, a man could beat his wife as long as the stick was no thicker than his thumb.
Aaah...the good old days....:ok:

Oldwoman
4th Nov 2010, 21:40
Oh really :ugh: What I don't understand is why so many people come to the UAE to work and totally fail to research the culture beforehand. Yes this is a Muslim country and I can't imagine what kind of 'beating' leaves no mark. Take a look at the Koran. Check the facts. Then make your no doubt valid comments.

Oldwoman
4th Nov 2010, 21:47
Perhaps knocking the 'local' community is not so wise. Serious wife beating goes on, I'm sure, even in your more 'civilized' community. It certainly goes on in mine and believe me there's nothing civilized about it. You sound like a missionary :rolleyes:

piggybank
4th Nov 2010, 22:30
Right here in Indonesia, anyone who says he is not a wife beater is a liar. The ladies are small in stature but very large with the verbals.