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30th Aug 2010, 09:36
Looking to start keeping 4-5 sheep. Wanted for meat and to train our dogs. Not interested in wool. Any (sensible) recommendations for breeds or just general advice.
30th Aug 2010, 10:06
Don't want to mess with sheep...
YouTube - Black Sheep - Movie Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ecg5P0u7Bo)
30th Aug 2010, 10:57
....you really don't want to. First premise is, sheep are ALWAYS looking for any excuse to die! They also tend to suffer from such fun ailments as "maggoty bum" and "foot rot" the rectification of which require one to get too close and personal with a fairly recalcitrant beast. You will also have to pay some strapping Ozzie or Kiwi to come and shear them and it will cost you more than the wool is worth; but if you don't do it, maggoty bum is a cert. (And the shearer will ravish your wife and daughters given half a chance). Need I go on? Don't do it.
The Ancient Mariner
30th Aug 2010, 10:59
How about some nice Rastafarian (sp) ones aka Wensleydale
30th Aug 2010, 11:05
Timmcat is the resident sheep expert. Try PMing him
30th Aug 2010, 12:09
You want to keep sheep.....to train your dogs?????
30th Aug 2010, 12:28
Sheep is the Spanish word for Ship.
30th Aug 2010, 12:33
Sheep always run away from Leeds United supporters.
Fire and brimstone
30th Aug 2010, 13:20
I want to help you, and I feel I can do this in two ways:-
1) By starting a thread about sheep, you are going to get a wirlwind of sarcasm, piss-taking, and pornographic images all over your thread, right from the start. Some people on pprune are incapable of commenting seriously on what is clearly a subject close to your heart.
I suggest you stamp this out from the outset, with a strongly worded warning. I can help you compose this if you wish.
2) Sheep. Assuming you are not a pervert, may I suggest you equip yourself with at least two alpachas (sorry for the spelling). These will befriend your sheep, and are a very good deterrant to dogs, which may be intent on bothering your new flock.
Good luck with the thread. You will need it. :D
P.S. Love rack of lamb with garlic and rosemary - hold the mint. :yuk:
30th Aug 2010, 13:22
By starting a thread about sheep, you are going to get a wirlwind of sarcasm, piss-taking, and pornographic images all over your thread, right from the start.
....and never ending hastle from velcro glove salesmen.
30th Aug 2010, 13:47
When Sheep Go Bad:
30th Aug 2010, 13:55
Standby for the learned TimmCat and his words of wisdom on a subject he has thoroughly explored . . . :sad:
30th Aug 2010, 14:00
I don't know what ewe all mean... :E
Fire and brimstone
30th Aug 2010, 14:09
.... I am so sorry about your thread.
This has happened to me before. Don't be downbeat. Do not waver.
There will be other threads ....... you have to let it go......
Let it go ........
"On my squadron in 'nam we lost 8 of 18 aircraft - 16 men ...... the first one dies - you die with them ....... but you have to let them go ......... there will be others ......"
sheep thread R.I.P.
ppruners - hang you head in shame; what has this person done to you??
30th Aug 2010, 14:16
Where are the New Zealanders?
30th Aug 2010, 14:30
Re. your first point - hey I'm a regular JB reader (if not contributor) and I expect maybe a 10% serious reply - the other 90% is also welcome (maybe more so)
As for your second point, Alpaca's are on the wifes agenda but certainly not mine yet - we have a couple of donkeys to protect the sheep from the dogs. Unfortunately, as we want to bring out the shepherding instinct in the dogs they are going to be allowed a little molestation.
Was that it Maybe my expectations were a little high.
30th Aug 2010, 14:46
Before you buy a sheep, buy a shovel - sheep are the only animals that spend their lives wanting to die.
30th Aug 2010, 14:48
Where are the New Zealanders?
Down at the leisure centre - 5 sheep tied to a lamppost.
30th Aug 2010, 15:32
Far be it for me to lambast MagnusP but ewe really scraped the barrel to ram that one home
30th Aug 2010, 15:40
Quadropedia Norven Munky’s Weblog (http://norvenmunky.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/quadropedia/)
With four or five sheep at least one will have some intelligence. That 'one' intelligent sheep could range from being moderately thick, to having the cunning and guile of a criminal mastermind:E.
That is the 'one' to be wary of.
The others will follow the mastermind, him being the 'brain' for the rest of the pack. The problem comes that the mastermind has the script/plan and the others have read it but are unable to improvise if/when it all goes wrong (see England football team World Cup 2010). If the mastermind gets separated, the others just go 'random' as my daughter would say so there's nothing more frustrating for example than trying to count sheep who don't understand the simple concept of 'heres a tasty treat come and get it'.:ugh:
The pack I looked after were common or garden variety but can find specifics if you need to know, PM me. The concept being get sheep to 'mow the orchard' and flog em at the end of the year, repeat next year. So far so good. Thing yet to be determined is the cost effectiveness as orchard is rented, sheep/fencing bought/minor vets costs/shearing and sale/butchering. Northumbrian sales last week were reporting good prices per head of sheep, but they do literally vary from week to week. Also consider how you'll move them from vendor/market to you, and you to butcher/market, as that'll be additional cost, and four a small number of sheep the set up costs could easily make it a loss making venture if thats an issue.
30th Aug 2010, 15:51
In case you change your mind about the wool, there's a chap wants to get rid of his wife's knitting patterns on the Trabb thread
Anyone perchance save old knitting patterns,Mrs 1DC has a hundred or so to get rid of.
30th Aug 2010, 22:15
Speaking as the evil mastermind of a cunning flock, what I'd like to know is why they're called shepherds instead of shepflockers?
31st Aug 2010, 00:23
DON'T DO IT.
Sheep are probably the most stupid ignorant frustratingly dumb animal in God's creation next to the human being. Like Rossian says, they catch everything going and die from nothing at all. They're brainless and fragile and infuriatingly thick, and did I mention their lack of any kind of intelligence?
They'll get stuck in your fences, and break through them into your garden, and stray onto the roads and get eaten by the neighbour's dogs and be riddled with pests and diseases and be too stupid to help themselves in any of those situations, and that's on a good day.
That said, they do possess a certain charm.....;)
But still don't do it. 4 or 5 sheep are as much of a pain in the arse as 400 or 500, but without the economic returns.
31st Aug 2010, 01:34
Once your family have given them all names you can forget the meat angle, they will be providers of expensive, (to you), wool and will eat your garden. They will die at inconvenient times and you will have to hire a back hoe to bury them as no self respecting butcher or pet food manufacturer will touch them. Once the sheep have broken out the donkeys will follow and go in different directions, eating everyone else's garden.
The family will know each beast by name but to you they will rapidly become "Those f*&%ing sheep". In this part of the world you can run approx seven sheep to the acre, further north it is seven acres to one sheep.
Don't do it. Buy half a lamb and freeze it.
31st Aug 2010, 09:08
Sorry, Lon More, I was responding on the hoof.
31st Aug 2010, 11:09
That said, they do possess a certain charmThat would be a nice Barnsley chop then.
31st Aug 2010, 11:16
Sheep aren't stupid. They're at least as intelligent as most of the Engerland football team
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31st Aug 2010, 11:19
Best prog on Telly at the mo is Shaun the Sheep.:ok:
31st Aug 2010, 11:28
Thanks for that Lon.
Are they English sheep?
The (Italian) England manager is looking for new players.
Especially players that don't drive Lamb borghinies.
31st Aug 2010, 12:21
Sheep are probably the most stupid ignorant frustratingly dumb animal in God's creation next to the human being.Don't be silly, that probably should be definitely ...and I ought to know.
Once your family have given them all names you can forget the meat angleNot necessarily. There was a ten year old girl on the Radio 2 phone-in this morning who had won a five pounds consolation prize for entering her sheep in the best sheep competition at the county fair. The presenter asked her what her sheep was called. She replied "It doesn't really have a name. I just call it No. 1"