Fuel Shortage at EY?

[Hoggtart]

Can any one confirm that EY100 landed at JFK on the 9th August with just 1900Kgs of fuel? Are things that tight with the fuel budget. Is this another cunning plan for management to increase the bonus's they receive?:zzz:

[Jetjock330]

No ways, how can this be????????????? Land with 1900kg's in a A340-600,

EY101 lands in JFK, EY100 lands in AUH

They use 1200kg to taxi out, he almost wouldn't make it to the gate with that after landing. Unbelievable, insane!

[HDP]

Could have just been strong headwinds on the flight, leading to greater-than-expected fuel consumption. And then the pilot decided to press ahead instead of diverting to pick up more fuel?

[Mister Warning]

It's a possibility.... but that would make the whole crew idiots and it would be illegal.
Sounds like a furfy to me.

[frieghtdog]

I hope they declared emergency or minimum fuel to JFK, other wise this can be sticky if the FAA finds out about it.

[Voodoo 3]

If indeed they did encounter strong headwinds and it ate into their contingency and possible diverson fuel then surely they would have diverted before destination to pick more up.

Continuing to destination with only 1900kgs in an Airbus 346 sounds like a mayday situation and would lead me to suggest that there is more to this than just pressing on and hoping for the best!

V3

[CanadaRocks]

2 GA on the canarse I do believe.

[Jetjock330]

Should still be a mayday, even if 2 go-arounds. If fuel is low enroute, we have a 3% enroute alternate to be used among any other available alternates at anytime.

I couldn't imagine a 3rd go around and there is no fuel to flow to the engines. 1900kgs, will last until first flap retraction after gear up. This A340-600 uses 1000kgs on the take-off run. I wonder if this is going to shoved under the carpet? Unbelievable, and these guys got to operate back?????

Taking out 2 runway lights at JFK gets you grounded for a while, and a pax back to AUH? On that scale what should a landing with 1900kg's get you???? One case is illegal if no mayday/emergency declared!!!

[frieghtdog]

If they did declare emergency, the airspace will be theirs , and they could picked any runway they want, VOR22 maybe verses canarse approach .

[flaphandlemover]

So can anyone confirm, they only had 1900kg?

Till now we only know of 2 GA...

[BOEING LOVER]

Hello to everyone,

I just want to know where this information coming from initially? I mean Hoggtart is looking for a confirmation which is fine.....But unless an emergency had been declared an info like this sould have been kept a secret unless a member of the crew was stupid enough to announce it if it is true!

I am jut wondering and nothing else! I know nothing regardin this situation but if true i can see where we are heading!

Thank you very much and happy landings!:ok:

[jackdaniels]

I would like to bring some light here...
EY101 on the 9th of august was dispatched under the following fuel policy:

FUEL TIME
TRIP 119.9 1351
CONT 3.6 0025
ALT 1.9 0013
FINRES 3.6 0030
FOD ADD 0.5 0003

MINIMUM TO FUEL 129.5 1503
TAXI 0.6 0015

The MDF in this case would have been 6t as per OMA (alt+finres+fod) (I am not considering the contingency) and arriving overhead JFK with 1.9 means that the crew burned additional 4.1T along the route (plus 3.6 of the cont) ! now this is unlikely if the flight was performed in normal ops with no fuel leakage! so what might have happened is
- the crew lifted up less fuel :ugh:
- they where re-routed by atc :\
if the FOB is less or equal to the FINRES the crew has to declare emergency my question now is did they performed a thorough fuel analysis during the flight? and why didn't they divert upon scratching the MDF???? who would be so mad to continue to destination???? 1.9T of fuel is less the 15 mins on 346
:eek:

[Jetjock330]

EY101 on the 9th of august

JD,
Is the particular flight or an example of a flight???

[jackdaniels]

The info's are taken from the OFP of the mentioned flight :ok:

[Dixons Cider]

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story eh.

I've got no idea what really happened, if indeed anything did, and neither do the armchair experts. Yet some of you are like vultures circling overhead, ready to swoop in as soon as a moment of weakness is shown and pick the carcass clean.

Vultures are vile disgusting scavengers feeding on rot.

[Jetjock330]

So true Sandblasted.

A while back, 4 years ago, we did a go around 31R with twenty kts on the tail in the A340-500, the missed approach stopped at 2000 by ATC and twenty frequency changes, and ATC told all stations runway changing 04R+04L (now 20kts accross) and we will have you Etihad back in no time, number 17 for return.
3,5 tons gone and back in on 04L, but those were the days of 5% contingency and the another extra 3 tons for whatever reason for the 16:04 blocktime;)

That being said, we still felt guilty with all the extra fuel remaining, but landing with less than 30 minutes and no emergency declared is the problem.

[sunbird123]

Did this really happen?. If so it was a very close call.