North Korean Mig crashes inside China

[sitigeltfel]

BBC News - North Korean plane 'crashes in China' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11008466)

[GreenKnight121]

BBC's "unnamed military experts" got their ID wrong... its a MIG-21.

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=187768&d=1282097059

[DADDY-OH!]

It looks to me like a Mig 15/17/19.

GreenKnight

Don't operators of Mig21's put their insignia on the forward fuselage under the cockpit?

[TBM-Legend]

Mig-21 it is...

Not many MiG-15's/17's/19's have delta wings..

[ProM]

Hmm, N Korean pilot tries to defect and happens to crash just over the border?

Without any external intervention?

What a coincidence

However p*ssed off we might be with our politicians, government and the state of our country, its worth looking at screwed up places like NK occasionally to remind ourselves how bloody lucky we are

[Thelma Viaduct]

However p*ssed off we might be with our politicians, government and the state of our country, its worth looking at screwed up places like NK occasionally to remind ourselves how bloody lucky we are

Yeah, look at NK to realise just how lucky we are.............

Get to **** !!!

[TEEEJ]

DADDY-OH,

No. It is a North Korean MiG-21 with the markings in the correct place. Sad that the pilot didn't manage to eject.

See following footage showing NK MiG-21 examples.

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During the 1990s North Korea was able to boost its MiG-21 inventory via an illegal purchase from Kazakhstan.

Asia Times: The high price of Kazakhstan's MiG affair (http://www.atimes.com/c-asia/AK19Ag01.html)

TJ

[lomapaseo]

I would be skeptical of any news reports out of this.

The photo may be nothing more than a stock photo because it seems to show a plane that has been through a runway overrun accident after going through a brick hut.

[green granite]

The photo may be nothing more than a stock photo because it seems to show a plane that has been through a runway overrun accident after going through a brick hut.

There and I thought the bricks were ballast carried in lieu of the radar set. :E

[The Helpful Stacker]

I thought the prefered method of ballasting for a missing radar was slaping some of Blue Circle's finest into the nose rather than bricks?

[StopStart]

The photo may be nothing more than a stock photo because it seems to show a plane that has been through a runway overrun accident after going through a brick hut.

That coincidentally happened yesterday afternoon at quarter to four :hmm:

[TEEEJ]

Lomapaseo,

Why on earth would China stage the crash of a NK MiG-21 inside its territory? The accident has been reported on Chinese national TV showing various stills.

Other news agencies are reporting eyewitness accounts of the crash.

The Associated Press: Small aircraft crashes in China, possibly NKorean (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j8cdo-J_kGVWkqhcy5ZFLAcikWDAD9HLT59G0)

Intelligence experts analyse 'North Korean fighter jet crash' - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/7951771/Intelligence-experts-analyse-North-Korean-fighter-jet-crash.html)

TJ

[Fareastdriver]

The bricks and the remains of a typical Chinese peasant's roof suggest it has gone through a house at the last stages of a landing. Should the pilot have jettisoned his canopy the bricks landing on him would probably be fatal.
Needed to brush up on his navigation too; he was going in the wrong direction to get to Russia. Maybe he had red on blue and thought he was in South Korea.

[Navy_Adversary]

If the crash was a couple of hours before the piccie, makes it around 1pm, given the shadows from the onlookers, the Mig was probably heading in a Northerly direction.:8

[Airborne Aircrew]

The petty bickering about whether the photo is stock or not and how it "could be real" is a pretty sad reflection on this place... Then again, of late, it's about par for the course. :ugh:

[GreenKnight121]

Yep... standard PPRuNe fare... someone makes a statement, and immediately the board breaks into the "gotta prove him wrong to show how smart I am" and "gotta oppose the others 'cause I have a feud with them" factions.

:rolleyes:

[Dan Winterland]

It crashed near Shenyang in Liaoning Province (Manchuria), only about 15nm from Shenyang airport. The Hong Kong papers make the piont that the PLA didn't do anything about the airspace incursion, so they may not have detected it As for why the pilot ended up where he did, you have to assume the North Korean pilots would have very little or no information on airspace or airfields outside their sphere of operations as their government are paranoid about defections. It's speculative that the pilot was trying to defect and if so, it's likely he was trying to reach Russia, as China has a policy of repatriating North Koreans.

He probably had little idea of what is over the other side of the border. And we will never know his thoughts and the accident report won't be made public by his Air Force.

[TEEEJ]

The Chinese official government press agency have, not surprisingly, gone for the following version of events.

'Investigations found that the crash was caused by mechanical failure, the sources said. The plane, which crashed in Fushun County of Liaoning Province, lost its course because of mechanical failure and strayed into the Chinese territory.'

Crashed aircraft in NE China identified (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2010-08/19/c_13453029.htm)

TJ

[Fareastdriver]

Oh. How convenient.