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PinkHarrier
9th Aug 2010, 01:24
I recently scanned some of my late father's negatives and, if anyone is interested, I shall put some more here.

The following were taken at Lympne on Aug 31, 1947 (I was 6 months old).

They are of the Miles Mohawk G-AEKW, once owned by Charles Lindberg.

The pilot named on the second picture says Wing Commander Earle and I
have placed it there just in case someone finds it of interest (I would like
to know).

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Mohawk%20lands%20Lympne%2031%20Aug%201947-shrunk.jpg

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Mohawk%20WCmdr%20Earle%2031%20Aug%201947-shrunk.jpg

Cheers

India Four Two
9th Aug 2010, 01:38
Hello PH,

Welcome to PPRuNe. Pictures of old aircraft are always welcome at AH&N. Please post some more.

Simon

PinkHarrier
9th Aug 2010, 02:09
Taken 10 Aug 1946 by my old man who did the drawings (based on the
original Meise but beefed up for added strength and an extra 25 kilos).

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/OlympiaPrototypefirstflight%2010%20Aug%201946-shrunk.jpg

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/OlympiaPrototypefirstflight%2010%20Aug%201946%20from%20benea th%20pic%20F%20Lindsley%201024x709-shrunk.jpg

stepwilk
9th Aug 2010, 05:07
Fascinating!

aviate1138
9th Aug 2010, 05:15
Ah! At Lasham in 1967 we [self + 2 pals] bought the Polish Air Force Gliding Club's Oly 2B.

I managed 6 hours one sunny day and a gain of height and a sore bum! Thanks for the pics, and to your old man for making the Oly safer and sweeter to fly. :)

PPRuNe Pop
9th Aug 2010, 06:47
We love old pictures but they are too large I'm afraid. Please re-size them to no more than 850x850 - 850x720 is even better.

Thanks.

PPP

PinkHarrier
9th Aug 2010, 13:47
OK PPP

Will do. Do you want me to delete those up already?

BOAC
9th Aug 2010, 16:14
Simpler just to edit and replace.

'PinkHarrier' - not a 1(Balloon)Sqn man, are you?

PinkHarrier
10th Aug 2010, 09:06
Dad checking out the wing construction 1946. This was done at Chilton (of Monoplane fame) Lodge near Hungerford.

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/F%20Lindsley%20working%20on%20prototype%20Chilton%20Olympia% 20(later%20%20EoN)%201946-780x584.jpg

PPRuNe Pop
11th Aug 2010, 09:10
PinkHarrier, thanks very much. They fit perfectly.

Now, have you anymore please?

PPP

PinkHarrier
11th Aug 2010, 11:25
Taken Nausori (ie Suva) Airport Fiji 1953

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Aeronca%20VQ-FAJ%20Nausori%20Fiji%201953-shrunk.jpg

Below Avro Prefect at Redhill UK 1947

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Avro%20Prefect%20Redhill%201947-shrunk.jpg

PinkHarrier
11th Aug 2010, 11:42
To BOAC. No not a 1(Balloon) Sqn man. May I ask why?

kevmusic
11th Aug 2010, 13:47
Great stuff, PH! :ok: And is that a Firefly behind the Avro?

BOAC
11th Aug 2010, 16:15
PH - if I recall correctly, a 1(Ballon) Sqn Harrier was painted pink overnight by a Norwegian squadron while 1(B) were on detachment there. I would have said Bodo but its a while.

These pics are superb. Thanks.

VictorGolf
11th Aug 2010, 17:43
I believe the Mohawk is on display in the RAF Museum in the Milestones of Flight exhibit. I last saw it under restoration in a museum in Florida. I would have thought Old Warden would be a better home for it but perhaps it wouldn't be welcome as it's a non-flyer.

sycamore
11th Aug 2010, 19:43
I would suggest it`s a Master,behind the Prefect; see there`s a pun there...

PinkHarrier
11th Aug 2010, 20:27
Undated, unplaced, Englands 1940s

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/AvroPrefect%20undated%20unplaced%20pic%20F%20Lindsley%20mayb e%201940s-shrunk.jpg

PinkHarrier
11th Aug 2010, 20:33
Taken 31 Aug, 1947 at Lympne. Unknown reg.

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/BonanzaLympne%2031Aug1947-shrunk.jpg

kevmusic
11th Aug 2010, 20:37
You could be right, Sycamore, especially as the second Prefect image seems to afford a better view of the same aircraft!

PinkHarrier
11th Aug 2010, 21:01
Gemini G-AKEH Karachi with Capt Winck (r) 24 Feb 1950

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Gemini%20G-AKEH%20Karachi%20with%20Capt%20Winck%20(r)%2024%20Feb%201950-shrunk.jpg

PinkHarrier
12th Aug 2010, 20:32
Probably Redhill, UK, 24 Jan 1948

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Flamingo%20G-AFYH%20%20maybe%20Redhill%2024%20Jan%201948%20A-shrunk.jpg

Mr_Grubby
12th Aug 2010, 20:39
PH.

These pictures are just amazing. Please keep them coming.

C.:ok:

sycamore
12th Aug 2010, 20:43
There`s an airborne aircraft just over the rudder of the Redhill Prefect,and a Hallibag lurking behind the hangar in the snow pic,and in the last one as well.

kevmusic
13th Aug 2010, 00:51
The airborne a/c looks more like a blemish to me. :confused:

PinkHarrier
13th Aug 2010, 02:30
http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Fairchild%20OO-FAH%20Gatwick%20mid%201940s-shrunk.jpg

and DH Rapide Fiji Airways 1953 Nausori (Suva) Airport VQ-FAM

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Rapide%20vq-fam%20fiji%20airways%201953%20fl%20centre-shrunk.jpg

PinkHarrier
13th Aug 2010, 02:36
Taken 1945, shortly after the war ended. Sorry about the quality. Probably the old man standing near entrance. Sure looks like him and his stand.

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Reyershausen%20wind%20tunnel%20A-shrunk.jpg

bonajet
13th Aug 2010, 07:38
Lovely photos, thanks Pink Harrier. Trying not to hijack your thread but for BOAC's info, the Pink Harrier was after 1 (F&B) Sqn came back from exchange at Dijon in Nov 76. I thought the same as BOAC, so, go on tell us, what's the reason for the Pink Harrier moniker?
ps that's not Food & Beverage.

HighTow
13th Aug 2010, 08:04
Below Avro Prefect at Redhill UK 1947 Interesting. The Master parked behind it looks like a glider towing GT.II variant. I swear I've seen those FE markings on another once somewhere. Sorry to hijack. I just like GT.II's :)

PinkHarrier
13th Aug 2010, 14:07
Why PinkHarrier? Well one day I was trying to get a yahoomail name and initially
tried blackeagle. Taken. Red too. So then Red Falcon. Gone. Blue, black.

This went on for quite a while so in disgust i tried pinkharrier and it said fine.
So, I thunk a litlle and then said what the hell. I actually photoshopped a
Harrier pink to go with the moniker.

DH Hornet PX273, Membury 1946 flown by Wing Cmdr Bond


http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Hornet%20PX273%20at%20Membury%20Spring%201946%20Pilot%20WCmd r%20Bond-shrunk.jpg

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Hornet%20PX273%20at%20Membury%20Spring%201946%20Pilot%20WCmd r%20Bond%203%20qtr%20view-shrunk.jpg

sycamore
13th Aug 2010, 14:17
Any ideas what P/F ?M C B on the Hornet are for ?

Mark22
13th Aug 2010, 14:35
Wing Commander P M L Bond...WCF Eastern Sector. 1946

Planemike
14th Aug 2010, 15:01
Brilliant photos, PinkHarrier, please keep them coming.

The Bonanza in Msg 18 is Swiss registered......HB-***. Shouldn't think there were too many Bonanzas around in Europe in 1947......

Planemike

PinkHarrier
14th Aug 2010, 21:22
Karachi 6 July 1949 outside old airship hangar.

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/DH%20Dove%20AP-AKS%20Karachi%206%20Jul%201949%20outside%20airship%20hanger-shrunk.jpg

WaspJunior
14th Aug 2010, 22:36
Superb pictures, I especially love the DH Hornet it must be one of the best looking aircraft ever. Strange to think that you can still buy a new Beechcraft Bonanza (straight tail) after all those years.

PinkHarrier
15th Aug 2010, 02:23
Thanks, PlaneMike, for spotting the HB under the Stbd wing. A little searching makes me think it is HB-ECI (later OO-ECI)

Bell Helicopter Lympne 31 Aug 1947 G-AKCX

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Bell%20Helicopter%20G-AKCX%20at%20Lympne%2031%20Aug%201947%20B%20pic%20F%20Lindsle y-shrunk.jpg

aviate1138
15th Aug 2010, 05:02
I thought Swiss Bonanza because of the two [possibly white on red background] crosses on the butterfly tailplanes. Never saw the large HB under the wing. Just to say thanks for some really interesting pics and long may this thread continue say I.

Planemike
15th Aug 2010, 11:23
Have to say, like aviate, I picked out the Swiss national insignia on the tail and the base of the "H" on the fuselage. Missed the HB- under the wing !! HB-ECI seems very likely.

The image of G-AKCX is very interesting and at the same time confusing. On checking AJJ's Britsh Civil Aircraft we find an image of KCX showing the stbd side of the aircraft and the legend "Prestwick Scotland". G-INFO confirms C of A issued 11 Aug 47 to Irvin-Bell Helicopter Sales Ltd. at Prestwick.

Your Dad's photo shows the port side with the legend "Letchworth England" around the same date. Wonder if anyone has an explantion? A/c was written off in a crash at Heathfield near Prestwick 7 Feb 1949.

It was the first Bell 47 on the British register and probably the first Bell built a/c on the register.

Planemike

aviate1138
15th Aug 2010, 13:43
Maybe the Bell was based at Rush Green? Close to Letchworth.

PinkHarrier
15th Aug 2010, 13:52
http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Bell%20Helicopter%20G-AKCX%20at%20Lympne%2031%20Aug%201947%20pic%20F%20Lindsley-shrunk.jpg

Any help. Poor res.

A30yoyo
15th Aug 2010, 13:56
Re G-AFYH #21 and OO-FAH #25 , I would say its the same Halifax by the petrol pumps (theres another one in #25) and Gatwick seems more likely..... shape of hangar, a Halifax could land at Redhill but could it get out? Interesting photos!
At one point (late 40s?) Transocean DC-4s were freighting in Bonanzas from the USA on the 'empty' leg of emigrant flights to Canada (UK Govt scheme)...maybe included the Swiss one

HEATHROW DIRECTOR
15th Aug 2010, 15:03
PinkHarrier... Loved the pic of VQ-FAJ. You can imagine my amazement when I walked into a hangar at Bridge Pa, NZ in March 2007 and saw this:
ZK-AMW Aeronca 100. Bridge Pa Aerodrome, Hastings, NZ. 30 March 2007 :: ZKAMW.jpg :: Fotopic.Net (http://www.brendan-mccartney.fotopic.net/p40676462.html)

oldandbald
15th Aug 2010, 18:30
Excellent pictures!!

I guess the Irvin-Bell Helicopter Sales was connected to the Irvin Air Chute Company of Letchworth makers of ( they claimed) 99.9% of all parachutes supplied to the RAF during the WW2.

Plenty of space around Letchworth at that time to keep a helicopter!

sedburgh
15th Aug 2010, 19:14
I guess the Irvin-Bell Helicopter Sales was connected to the Irvin Air Chute Company of Letchworth makers of ( they claimed) 99.9% of all parachutes supplied to the RAF during the WW2.
Yes, it was a collaboration between Scottish Aviation and Irvin Air Chute, this is from Flight, Sept 25th 1947, p 347 (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1947/1947%20-%201641.html?tracked=1)
AT the end of August a new company, Irvin-Bell Helicopter Sales, Ltd., which has been formed to "keep the United Kingdom in the closest possible touch with helicopter development," gave its first demonstration of the Bell 47B to a small but important gathering at Prestwick Airport, location of the company's engineering and training division. Last Thursday, September 18th, another demonstration was given at Hanworth airfield and was attended by senior representatives of the Services, Ministries, Corporations and industry. The machine was put through its paces by "Jimmy" Youell, who finally placed it precisely on the lawn of the Hanworth Park Hotel which had been very appropriately chosen as a meeting place for the occasion. Irvin-Bell Helicopter Sales, Ltd. has resulted from the collaboration of Scottish Aviation, Ltd., with Mr. Leslie L. Irvin, founder of the Irving Air Chute Company, and the directors are the four of Scottish Aviation, namely, the Duke of Hamilton, Sir Ernest Lemon, Mr. D. F. Mclntyre and the Earl of Selkirk, together with Mr. Leslie Irvin, Captain Cyril Turner and Captain A. B. H. Youell of the Irving Air Chute Co. The head offices of the company are at Ickneild Way, Letchworth, Herts.

Planemike
15th Aug 2010, 20:56
Hmmm.. I failed to make the connection between Irvin and Letchworth!! Should have done as I called on the company a couple of times!!

Anyway thanks for putting that one to bed..........

Planemike

PinkHarrier
15th Aug 2010, 21:50
I thought I may pick some collective brains. Some time after my father died I discovered by accident in a search a patent in his and Andrew Dalrymple's (of Chilton monoplane fame) name. The original link was a PDF doc with diagrams but it now appears broken. Have found another which starts with:

"
Abstract of GB573127 573,127. Helicopters. DALRYMPLE, A. W. H., and LINDSLEY, F. Dec. 3, 1943, Nos. 20265/43 and 4326/44. [Class 4] A helicopter of the type in which the sustaining rotor is positively driven by a prime mover about an upright axis transverse to the fuselage, is controlled in flight by a thrust-producing device, such as an airscrew or reaction jet, located at the tail of the machine and mounted in such a way that the line of thrust can be set at varying angles.."

The actual link is GB Patent 573127 - Improvements in or relating to aircraft of the helicopter type (http://www.wikipatents.com/GB-Patent-573127/improvements-in-or-relating-to-aircraft-of-the-helicopter-type)

Can anyone shed some light on the subject? I knew nothing about it.

Below some pix I took of his drawings of the Chilton Olympia that I found after his death.

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/ChiltonOlympiaPlansWing-shrunk.jpg

PinkHarrier
17th Aug 2010, 21:12
Karachi 27 July 1950

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Halifax%20Q1277%20Karachi%2027%20July%201950%20pic%20F%20Lin dsley%20C-shrunk.jpg

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Halifax%20Q1277%20Karachi%2027%20July%201950%20pic%20F%20Lin dsley-shrunk.jpg

PinkHarrier
18th Aug 2010, 11:17
Karachi 19 May 1949 outside old airship hangar. On the way to Singapore to be used by Shell for exploration and reg as VR-SDB.

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Percival%20Prince%20G-ALJA%20Karachi%2019%20May%201949%20pic%20F%20Lindsley-shrunk.jpg

Planemike
18th Aug 2010, 13:31
Yet another brilliant photo. The hangar in the background is as interesting as the a/c. Sad to read the hangar is no longer there, dismantled in the 1960s apparently, on the instructions of Ayub Khan the then President of Pakistan. It was his contribution to saving the country's aviation heritage.

Planemike

PinkHarrier
20th Aug 2010, 21:46
Wollongong, NSW, 1950

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Cessna%20C34%20VH-UYG%201950%20poss%20Wollongong-shrunk.jpg

Aerohack
22nd Aug 2010, 08:27
The Bonanza was HB-EBF, an early -- and then very new -- 'straight' Model 35. It took part in the Lympne Air Races 30-31 August 1947, owner/pilot M. Deckert placing fourth in the three-lap Folkestone Aero Trophy at 155.5 mph behind a BA Swallow, Tipsy B and the late great Ranald Porteous in Chilton G-AFSV. Wonderful pictures!

PinkHarrier
22nd Aug 2010, 14:16
You may have noticed in earlier posts that my old man used to work as a designer for Chilton at their mansion (Ward's mansion) near Hungerford.

Below Rapide G-AGHI late 1940s, UK.

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Rapide%20G-AGHI%20Allied%20Airways%20Shetlander%20mid%201940s%20pic%20F %20Lindsley-shrunk.jpg

And a wrecked DC-2 ZS-DFW photographed in Sudan 1955 during Crop Culture trials.
http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Sudan%20Kosti%20wrecked%20DC%202%20ZS-DFW%20Phoenix%20Airlines%201955%2056-shrunk.jpg

PinkHarrier
27th Aug 2010, 21:20
1940s, unplaced (UK)

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Miles%20Magister%20G-AJGM%201940s%20unplaced%20UK%20pic%20F%20Lindsley-shrunk.jpg

PinkHarrier
3rd Feb 2011, 12:08
21 April 1948, Hatfield

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/DH%20Swallow%20VW120%20Hatfield%2021%20April%201948%20B%20%2 0pic%20F%20Lindsley-shrunk.jpg

Parrot
10th Feb 2011, 05:04
Love that South African DC-2 scan

Feather #3
10th Feb 2011, 05:48
Pink Harrier, would you happen to know at which Wollongong airport that 1950 photo was taken, please?

G'day ;)

Blacksheep
10th Feb 2011, 09:25
Re: Hatfield photo - the houses in Hatfield Garden Village are still there, the rest is all gone... :(

Molemot
13th Feb 2011, 15:46
Just chanced upon this thread...that Chilton Olympia glider had it's first flight on the exact day the Moley was emerging, mewling and puking no doubt, into the brave new post-war world.... I share my birthday with an aircraft!! And it's a lot prettier than I am, too.
Photos are splendid....very evocative.

PinkHarrier
22nd Mar 2011, 11:20
To Feather: Albion Park, Wollongong.



Somewhere in England 1947 ex Lindberg Mohawk
http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Mohawk%20G-AEKW%20Aug%201947-shrunk.jpg

Alan Biles
22nd Mar 2011, 14:08
PH

Reckon that's Redhill Aerodrome. Taken looking East from the hangars at the top end of the N-S runway.

AB

Fareastdriver
22nd Mar 2011, 18:56
What is the tandem engined seaplane in the right background. It looks a bit German.

Alan Biles
22nd Mar 2011, 20:17
Fareastdriver,

Looks like a Sea Otter with another one behind it. It was the successor to the Walrus.

VX275
22nd Mar 2011, 21:18
I can see two Sea Otters and two Walrus but more interestingly what's that fuselage section on the trailer, a DH Flamingo?

merlinxx
23rd Mar 2011, 05:19
Looks like a York

aviate1138
23rd Mar 2011, 05:52
Don't think it's a York, the fuselage section isn't square enough and the wing/fuselage join isn't in the right position. IMHO. Also are the window openings the correct shape?

I would say Flamingo is closer in section/size.

astir 8
23rd Mar 2011, 10:29
Looking at the wing profile, is whatever it is upside down?

PinkHarrier
23rd Mar 2011, 13:43
http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Anson%20VH-BFN%20Wollongong%207%20Nov%201950-shrunk.jpg

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Anson%20VH-BFN%20Wollongong%20Nightshot%2015%20Nov%201950-shrunk.jpg

aviate1138
24th Mar 2011, 10:20
Best thread for some time. Thanks for showing some interesting aircraft and nostalgia rules! :)

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/Screenshot2011-03-24at105323.jpg

Similar?

Planemike
24th Mar 2011, 11:23
Certainly..........!!

AJJ's BCA vol II lists G-AFYF, YJ, YK and YL as scrapped at Redhill in 1950. G-AFYH was scrapped in 1954. What a shame it could not have hung on until the "preservation age". Significant aeroplane as it was the first all metal aircraft built by deH.

G-INFO shows the Mohawk as destroyed in November 1950, so all quite feasible. The Mohawk then went on its 35 year exile in Spain. Great to see the a/c rebuilt but can't help feeling it might be more appropriate in the "Miles Museum" at Woodley rather than Hendon.

Planemike

PinkHarrier
24th Mar 2011, 11:30
24 Jan 1948. Redhill maybe?

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Flamingo%20G-AFYH%20%20maybe%20Redhill%2024%20Jan%201948interior%20cockpi t%20F-shrunk.jpg

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Flamingo%20G-AFYH%20%20maybe%20Redhill%2024%20Jan%201948%20C-shrunk.jpg

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Flamingo%20G-AFYH%20%20maybe%20Redhill%2024%20Jan%201948%20D-shrunk.jpg

http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Flamingo%20G-AFYH%20%20maybe%20Redhill%2024%20Jan%201948%20B-shrunk.jpg

Below May 1947
http://www.rcyachts.net/oziom/Leica/Flamingo%20May%201947-shrunk.jpg

Planemike
24th Mar 2011, 11:37
Great shots.........thanks for sharing.

Just a thought/question. Wonder why these five aircraft did not see more use, as Britain was short of transport a/c just after the war?

Planemike

aviate1138
24th Mar 2011, 11:47
Was it pressurised? I notice the windows are more rounded than the later Comet 1.

Just Binged this.....

"However, the de Havilland Aircraft Company had made perhaps the earliest jet airliner study of a twin de Havilland Goblin engine powered Flamingo in mid 1941. These early designs were drawn round the de Havilland Goblin centrifugal jet engine developing some 1360kg static thrust."

Oh the if's but's and probablies! :)

Phantom Phixer
5th Apr 2011, 18:52
Fascinating pictures. I rather like the look of the Flamingo. Were they not used by the RAF during the war having been put into service ?

Jig Peter
6th Apr 2011, 14:01
The last Flamingo shot from PinkHarrier seems to show the starboard engine's propeller feathered, leading to the (jocular) query that the reason for the aircraft being knee deep in daisies, or at least long grass, was its inability to taxi ...

PS: Well, anybody can speculate about amost anything aeronautical, this being Pprune ... :D:D
Nice shots anyway of an aircraft I've always been surprised that deH's didn't proceed with - "seemed a good idea at the time" ???

Capetonian
30th Apr 2011, 00:51
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7593647/RH.jpg